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Celtoid
12th April 2022, 12:36 PM
Hi All,

I did a quick search on the forum on this topic but there doesn't appear to have been an update for around 4 years.

I've also looked on the internet and there are lots of options at varying prices. I'm interested in a model that is practical and portable. There appears to be some very slick items out there.

Has anybody got recent experience using a battery jumper pack on a D4 that has a flat battery?

What brand/model seem to be doing the business?

Thanks in advance.

Kev.

iannicki
12th April 2022, 02:50 PM
Have used an ALDI lithium jump starter twice on a TDV6 2.7l. First time was to get home, second time was the following morning even after having had battery connected to a 240v charger overnight. Worked very well both times. It was December in Melbourne, so not a cold/hard start. Car battery was most likely just old and tired as opposed to actually stuffed.

Arapiles
12th April 2022, 05:54 PM
The lithium ones are a huge advance over the old lead acid ones, particularly as they're about 100 times smaller - the one I bought from Costco is the size of a large mobile phone power bank and easily fits in the smaller D4 glovebox where it stays plugged in until needed. I've used it a couple of times to start the D4 when the old battery gave up the ghost. It also has a Qi charger, which is handy when my phone needs charging but I don't have the right cord with me.

Edit:

Brands? Mine are both a brand called "Type S" and appear to be pretty good. I suspect most brands are just re-branding items from the same factory.

Celtoid
12th April 2022, 10:39 PM
The lithium ones are a huge advance over the old lead acid ones, particularly as they're about 100 times smaller - the one I bought from Costco is the size of a large mobile phone power bank and easily fits in the smaller D4 glovebox where it stays plugged in until needed. I've used it a couple of times to start the D4 when the old battery gave up the ghost. It also has a Qi charger, which is handy when my phone needs charging but I don't have the right cord with me.

Edit:

Brands? Mine are both a brand called "Type S" and appear to be pretty good. I suspect most brands are just re-branding items from the same factory.

Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

I've seen solutions that look like a car battery wrapped in plastic and I've seen a few very slim line bits of kit that look good, which sound something like you purchased.

Cheers,

Kev.

Arapiles
13th April 2022, 01:03 AM
Thanks for the info, I appreciate it.

I've seen solutions that look like a car battery wrapped in plastic and I've seen a few very slim line bits of kit that look good, which sound something like you purchased.

Cheers,

Kev.


This is the sort of thing:

https://www.costco.com.au/Automotive/Car-Accessories/Chargers-Jump-Starters/Type-S-Jump-Starter-Portable-Power-Bank-12V/p/1433895

A bit bigger than a mobile phone battery pack.

Not sure why anyone would buy the old style ones.

BradC
13th April 2022, 08:34 AM
Not sure why anyone would buy the old style ones.

Reliability and capacity mainly.

The "old style ones" run around 12-18AH, so you can effectively use them as a mobile power source. The lead acid units are also far more robust for "when you really need it", whereas the lithium polymer units can and do "release the smoke". If you're carrying it for convenience the Lithium units are fine, but if you are carrying it for a "hail Mary" then you might want to look at something a bit more robust. Horses for courses.

For every couple of "I've carried it in the car for years and it's worked every time", there's a "The third time I hooked it up it went up in smoke". I've seen "lots" returned under warranty, or been presented with one reeking of magic smoke with a "do you think you can fix it?"

The lead acid units are a battery and jump cables. No electronics.

FisherX
13th April 2022, 08:39 AM
Check this YouTube channel out.



Which Car Jump Starter Is Best? Let's find out! NOCO GB40 vs Duracell vs Audew - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8A2nIMUWA)

Blknight.aus
13th April 2022, 09:27 AM
I've had phenominal sucess with the supercheap one and at the same price point they are all much of a muchness....

12V 1000A Jump Starter and Powerbank with 10W Wireless QI Charger | Jaycar Electronics (https://www.jaycar.com.au/12v-1000a-jump-starter-and-powerbank-with-10w-wireless-qi-charger/p/MB3766?pos=3&queryId=b4fe1791cc290dd819353a11df061307)

And I do like this variant of them, while the solar panel takes about a month to charge one from flat its enough to stop parasitic loss or to top one off if youve used it for something light weight...

https://www.fastech.com.au/products/battery-jump-starter-solar-js007/

(bare in mind, thats a budget version of them however its 750A peak current claim is likely more realistic than some of the 1000A 1500a, they show you whats in the box on the page with enough clarity to identify components and the battery lable, and even do the right thing by listing not the simple total W available in the battery but whats accessible)

IF I wasnt already all over my needs for battery and jump starting I'd go buy one of them as a back up unit