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NavyDiver
23rd May 2022, 12:09 PM
Keyless entry is cool assuming the lines in this yarn that its very easy to steal a Landrover with keyless entry!


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The owner admitted that she thought the area, especially the private car park, was safe and protected. The vehicle in question has keyless entry, which is known to be easier to trick into opening (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/psa-a-tin-box-can-prevent-your-car-from-getting-stolen-165883.html) a car and letting it start and drive off.

As the owner told The Irish Sun, she knew that Land Rover and Range Rover keyless entry cars are "easy to steal," but "you never think it's going to happen to you." As she concluded, "or I stupidly thought it wouldn't." We are not blaming the victim here, just pointing out that it could happen to anyone (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/british-couple-gets-their-mercedes-stolen-with-high-tech-tools-they-have-video-117117.html).

Thieves have managed to enter a locked car park, unlock and start a vehicle, and then leave the car park despite not having the code for the place. If that does not scare you one bit (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/keyless-cars-can-be-stolen-in-under-30-seconds-research-shows-136728.html), you either have excellent insurance or do not really care about your possessions. link (https://www.autoevolution.com/news/land-rover-driver-retrieves-stolen-car-after-finding-it-with-a-neat-trick-189001.html)


Interesting that the police didn't first attend and then did not wait for the thieves to come and move the car again? Not assumptive Police here in my area are much more motivated to catch crooks other than the ones they think important [bigwhistle]

UK link on why it is so easy to steal the cars- read this with an omg hand on if yours is keyless now?

Keyless car theft: everything you need to know | heycar (https://heycar.co.uk/guides/which-cars-are-prone-to-keyless-car-crime)

RANDLOVER
30th May 2022, 07:22 PM
Don't the keyless key fobs come with buttons to press for locking and unlocking? Of course this might negate the ease of just keeping it in your pocket, bag, etc.

Arapiles
31st May 2022, 07:15 PM
Interestingly, the article says that Land Rovers are harder to steal this way than other makes. It's ages since I've heard of this being done in Australia, not sure why that'd be the case but apparently it is:

Have keyless cars become the target of thieves? | The Hub by NRMA Insurance (https://thehub.nrma.com.au/drive/have-keyless-cars-become-target-thieves#:~:text=According%20to%20statistics%20from %20the,stolen%20taken%20from%20the%20home).

One thing in the NRMA article I'd disagree with - because of home invasions people now leave keys somewhere prominent in the house where anyone breaking in can take them without interacting with the residents.

NavyDiver
1st June 2022, 06:19 AM
Don't the keyless key fobs come with buttons to press for locking and unlocking? Of course this might negate the ease of just keeping it in your pocket, bag, etc.

My new thing has buttons but if near the door a button on the door opens if closer than 1m. Boot opens as well when near it. Keys need to be in front most of the time to start it ( power up EV [biggrin] )

3toes
2nd June 2022, 02:47 AM
We had a break in a few years ago. The police said it was the new company car out the front and they were looking for the keys. Seems modern cars are difficult to pinch when you do not have the key

Was about midnight and all was quiet in the house not a creature was stirring. Then a light switch was heard down stairs. They picked the wrong house which am sure they were thinking about as I chased them out of the house and down the road. Or was do with the vision of my half undressed wife who has leapt out of bed screaming like a banshie clearly after blood as she followed me. They could run faster than either of us but not faster than the police patrol car

POD
2nd June 2022, 06:38 AM
I suspect that there are two different types of criminal in play here; one type who has the technological know-how to trick the vehicle's security system and another type who will invade your home to get the keys. Either way, being robbed is a horrible experience but if forced to make the the choice, I'd rather find my car missing from the workplace carpark than have my home resemble Rorkes Drift.

loanrangie
2nd June 2022, 09:18 AM
Modern thieves stealing modern vehicles don't need your keys, they have the tech to intercept the RF signal so they can clone it then open your car and drive off, lots ok security videos from the UK showing how quick this is done.

NavyDiver
2nd June 2022, 05:42 PM
Modern thieves stealing modern vehicles don't need your keys, they have the tech to intercept the RF signal so they can clone it then open your car and drive off, lots ok security videos from the UK showing how quick this is done.

Its interesting. My quirky one RF signal is very close range only. The one on another brand is at least 4 times the range. I did see an IT expert hack everyone in the rooms phones via Bluetooth a few years ago. Mine was the one of only 10 odd phones that was not hacked during that lecture on the topic. 30 others had address, contacts and even passwords taken by the expert[bigwhistle] He was not a thief luckily for those people! RF hacking or Credit card chip (RF) reading is common as yet most are currently happily ignorant of it. Our cars are likely to be like we are a little bit safe untill the crime gangs from OS rotate from country to country to Australia perhaps?