Manufacturers and stated economy..or not

[spudfan]

Seems you just cannot trust those stated fuel economy figures issues by manufacturers. Hard to believe I know..
MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-ie/cars/news/ford-will-pay-19-2-million-over-false-hybrids-trucks-advertising/ar-AAXL22B?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3a7c829b8dbd4afda1723ed1b7f5a6a3)

[Saitch]

Seems you just cannot trust those stated fuel economy figures issues by manufacturers. Hard to believe I know..
MSN (https://www.msn.com/en-ie/cars/news/ford-will-pay-19-2-million-over-false-hybrids-trucks-advertising/ar-AAXL22B?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=3a7c829b8dbd4afda1723ed1b7f5a6a3)

Who would have thought? Probably just an honest miscalculation, I'm sure. [bighmmm]

[V8Ian]

Probably confusion with litres, plastic and imperial gallons.

[Homestar]

I just test drove a vehicle that’s on my short list for a new company car - Not a Land Rover - and I asked what the economy was - he told me 7.6 litres per hundred. I said ‘So 10’s yeah?’ To which he replied - yep, just under 10 overall is what you’ll get with a mix of town and highway driving.

So at least the Sales guy was honest - no idea who would actually believe what the OEM’s stated figures are.

[gusthedog]

I love our mondeo diesel. 6 litres per hundred. I know diesels aren't the rage anymore but we live in the bush. It cuts our trip costs in half compared with any other car I've owned.

[RANDLOVER]

I just test drove a vehicle that’s on my short list for a new company car - Not a Land Rover - and I asked what the economy was - he told me 7.6 litres per hundred. I said ‘So 10’s yeah?’ To which he replied - yep, just under 10 overall is what you’ll get with a mix of town and highway driving.

So at least the Sales guy was honest - no idea who would actually believe what the OEM’s stated figures are.

They are believable if your put thinner oils in engine, gearbox, diff and take the mirrors off, and tape all the gaps in bonnet, doors, boot for better aerodynamics, all allowed.

[cuppabillytea]

Don't forget to slick your hair down and tape your ears back as well.[bigwhistle]

[Homestar]

They are believable if your put thinner oils in engine, gearbox, diff and take the mirrors off, and tape all the gaps in bonnet, doors, boot for better aerodynamics, all allowed.

I'd love to see how the cops would react if we all did that so we could get the figures they claim. [bigrolf]

Mind you there seem to be a lot of drivers out there that have no idea what mirrors are for anyway, so maybe no one would notice...[bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

I'd love to see how the cops would react if we all did that so we could get the figures they claim.

Mind you there seem to be [B]a lot of drivers out there that have no idea what mirrors are for anyway, so maybe no one would notice...[bigwhistle]
They're easy to pick, they're the ones with messy hair. [biggrin]

[RANDLOVER]

Don't forget to slick your hair down and tape your ears back as well.[bigwhistle]

Only when testing convertibles of course.

[RANDLOVER]

They're easy to pick, they're the ones with messy hair. [biggrin]

And sometimes with the incorrectly applied "guy-liner".

[350RRC]

The 1999 Ford Courier (mazda) 2.6 efi manual ute I have gets about 450kms per tank of 91, the same as my 74 RRC with a 700thou carby 350 and auto in it.

Dunno what the advertised fuel consumption for the ute was, back in the day.

Tanks are about the same size, the ute probably weighs 700 kg less. [bighmmm]

cheers, DL

[cuppabillytea]

They're easy to pick, they're the ones with messy hair. [biggrin]
Just this morning, was cut off by a V Dub Golf with mirrors tucked away for parking. Verry tidy hair. Three minutes later I was cut off by a Porch. I had my Indicator on to turn left. Green arrow comes on and he stays put. I beep. He puts his right Indicator on, also very tidy hair. Guess your theory doesn't apply to Germans.

[discorevy]

Three minutes later I was cut off by a Porch. I had my Indicator on to turn left. Green arrow comes on and he stays put.

If it was still attached to the house, it might explain why it stayed put.
It's quite annoying sometimes when those pesky houses get in the way of a good corner. But that's cities for you!

I sometimes have similar minor inconveniences with trees in the country [bigwhistle]

[Vern]

I've never bought a car that was remotely close to the recommended l/100, except, for, drum roll please,

5.6L of petrol v8 patrol. 14.4L/100, and I'm averaging 14.2 currently[emoji1787]. That's the closest for any car I have ever owned

[cuppabillytea]

If it was still attached to the house, it might explain why it stayed put.
It's quite annoying sometimes when those pesky houses get in the way of a good corner. But that's cities for you!

I sometimes have similar minor inconveniences with trees in the country [bigwhistle]
Bloody auto correct.[bigsad] Should have posted in the veranda section. I might have had better luck.

[V8Ian]

Bloody auto correct.[bigsad] Should have posted in the veranda section. I might have had better luck.
Or the verandah. You're on a roll Billy. [biggrin]

[cuppabillytea]

Or the verandah. You're on a roll Billy. [biggrin]
Is that why I feel like a Hamburger Ian?

[shanegtr]

As far as I was aware the stated fuel economy figures are all derived from controlled lab testing, so while the figures are not the same as what you would get in the real world at least they give you comparison figure for comparing different cars.
There's too many variables to have a "real world" test

[jonesfam]

We have 4 Nissan X-Tail soft roader hire cars.
All 4 are the same year model, spec & bog standard except for A/T tires.
All 4 have wildly varying fuel consumption.
Up to 150km per tank, I know they have a lot of different dives but that seems a lot.
Jonesfam

[Tote]

We had a fleet of EA and EB falcon wagons years ago, most of the ones that did big kilometres were pretty similar, however the boss had one which spent most of its time ferrying him to and from work and being driven around town to get the mail and run errands. Across several vehicles this one was always the worst performing with the poorest economy and most unreliable.

Regards,
Tote

[scarry]

Our work vans are the same.
All same model,but different years,all have different fuel burns.

The last D2a we had was the closest to the manufacturers stated fuel economy than any other vehicle we have ever had.
For some reason it was rediculously good on fuel.

The D4 always liked a drink[bighmmm]Not that we really cared.
Although the small fuel tank was always a PITA.

[RANDLOVER]

Bloody auto correct.[bigsad] Should have posted in the veranda section. I might have had better luck.

Easily done, sometimes with disastrous consequences...


A multi-millionaire realises that at the price of tradies today it would be cheaper to hire a prostitute than a painter to paint his verandah, so he jumps in is new flash sportscar and drives down to the local red light district and hires a young lady.
When he gets back he asks, "So your fee covers any unusual requests?" she answers "Yes" so he says, "Well here's some paint I want you to paint my porch out the front" about an hour later she comes back inside and he asks "All done?" she replies "Yes and by the way it is Ferrari not a Porsche".