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spudfan
22nd July 2022, 06:02 AM
That headline got me looking..Here is what it says.

If the doors or windows won't work, automakers must provide a means to break the glass.
Anyone who's had the misfortune of being caught in a flood or a sinking vehicle knows how absolutely terrifying it can be. Escaping in such situations isn't easy, and the Australasian New Car Assessment Program (ANCAP) hopes to shine some light on the subject with an underwater safety rating for new cars.

Starting in 2023, ANCAP will include submergence testing as part of its overall new car rating system. It will be grouped with other ratings in ANCAP's system that explore vehicle accessibility after a crash, focusing on rescuing occupants trapped inside. According to the Australian website CarExpert, manufacturers must show that doors can be opened for at least 10 minutes underwater without battery power, and that electric windows can still function.
Failing these measures, manufacturers must provide occupants a method to open or break the side windows, with information about it all included in the owner's manual. Without these steps, new vehicles from 2023 forward won't be eligible for a maximum ANCAP safety rating.
Cars And Water Don't Mix:
While there is no specific mention of the reason for this new criteria, ANCAP does mention recent weather events that have caused severe flooding. Beyond that, there's no question that new vehicles are getting ever more complex with electronic systems. That includes power-operated doors and door handles on some vehicles, and information on how such systems work in a flood situation is certainly hard to come by.

Studies have shown that pressure differences between the interior and exterior of a sinking car can prevent doors from opening until the pressure equalizes. Unfortunately, the equalization comes when the cabin fills with water, leaving occupants very little time to escape. It's unclear if or how ANCAP's submergence rating accounts for this condition.
As for vehicle safety ratings in the United States, the Insurance Institue for Highway Safety (IIHS) currently has nothing in place that measures underwater performance. Motor1.com contacted IIHS to ask about the potential for submergence ratings in the future, but a reply wasn't received prior to publication. We will jump in with an update if new information becomes available.

Source: Car Expert

scarry
22nd July 2022, 06:13 AM
There have been rumours about this for a while,and also detectors to sense if a child is left in a vehicle.

Maybe us humans are getting dumber as time goes on?[bigsad][biggrin]

Yet audible reversing sensors are not mandatory in Aus,for all vehicles under 4.5T,and they are guarrantee to save the lives of our little ones.[bigsad]
And a $2.00 item for a vehicle manufacturer to supply and fit.
Although many have them fitted as standard equipment but unfortunately not all.

V8Ian
22nd July 2022, 07:03 AM
Reversing alarms have become white noise, ergo lost the benefit they used to offer.
A bit like high vis work wear is so ubiquitous, it goes unnoticed.

ramblingboy42
22nd July 2022, 08:42 AM
What is the vehicle doing underwater?

NavyDiver
22nd July 2022, 09:09 AM
Need that now rulz at a Music festival today?

"Splendour in the Grass festival goers are calling for refunds after thousands of patrons were told to turn around from the North Byron Parklands campgrounds after waiting in line for 15 hours and being forced to sleep in their cars overnight.

A major queue of cars waiting to get into the campgrounds formed on Thursday afternoon as recent heavy rainfall across the Northern Rivers caused the festival grounds to be inundated with water.

https://static.ffx.io/images/$zoom_0.503%2C$multiply_2.1164%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$wid th_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_254/t_crop_custom/q_62%2Cf_auto/b5652dd71a137d978aa0740020296794f2792731"

Trivia- What some might not know is sound travels very well underwater. [biggrin] What we all know is Wet Wet Wet is fine singing but not great for Splendor in the Grass


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3gEkwhdXUE

B.S.F.
22nd July 2022, 09:28 AM
What is the vehicle doing underwater?

Lack of submarines ?
.W.

scarry
22nd July 2022, 09:40 AM
Reversing alarms have become white noise, ergo lost the benefit they used to offer.
A bit like high vis work wear is so ubiquitous, it goes unnoticed.

Probably my bad,what I meant is the type that scream at the driver,and also light up the dash with a plan view of the vehicle,to show the driver which one is screaming.

Not the ones that beep on mine spec vehicles,etc,outside the vehicle.

V8Ian
22nd July 2022, 09:47 AM
It's been renamed Splendour in the Mud and the camp site has been moved 16km to higher ground.

Saitch
22nd July 2022, 10:04 AM
16km to higher ground.

Geez! That's a lot higher, ay!

NavyDiver
22nd July 2022, 11:29 AM
Geez! That's a lot higher, ay!

Biblical flood Saitch [biggrin]

RANDLOVER
22nd July 2022, 03:27 PM
There have been rumours about this for a while,and also detectors to sense if a child is left in a vehicle.

Maybe us humans are getting dumber as time goes on?[bigsad][biggrin]

Yet audible reversing sensors are not mandatory in Aus,for all vehicles under 4.5T,and they are guarrantee to save the lives of our little ones.[bigsad]
And a $2.00 item for a vehicle manufacturer to supply and fit.
Although many have them fitted as standard equipment but unfortunately not all.

$2,00 sounds cheap but on a production run of a million cars that is $2M which is why car makers are loath to add extras.

goingbush
22nd July 2022, 05:49 PM
What about this Tesla that was driving underwater , would that be a Ancap pass or fail ??

skip to about 4.30


https://youtu.be/Npnwau-XZd0

vnx205
22nd July 2022, 06:55 PM
Reversing alarms have become white noise, ergo lost the benefit they used to offer.
A bit like high vis work wear is so ubiquitous, it goes unnoticed.

White noise is better than the previous sound.
Tests have shown that it was almost impossible to tell the direction from which the original sound was coming. It is much easier to pick the direction from which white noise is coming.
White noise might not be audible over as great a distance as the original sound, but it is audible at the distance that matters.
It is important to know which direction the truck is coming from.
It is also less annoying. :)

White noise sounds the reversing alarm | Construction News (https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/archive/white-noise-sounds-the-reversing-alarm-21-06-2001/)

White Noise Reversing Alarms | Quieter, Yet Safer | Brigade (https://brigade-electronics.com/products/reversing-and-warning-alarms/)

Hi-vis just needs to make you visible. It does that.

V8Ian
22nd July 2022, 07:42 PM
What about this Tesla that was driving underwater , would that be a Ancap pass or fail ??

skip to about 4.30


https://youtu.be/Npnwau-XZd0
I'm still not tempted, but JerryD might be. [bigwhistle]

Discosux
22nd July 2022, 11:38 PM
Pffft, The Brits were on to this long ago...


Lotus, Bond, underwater. Girls in Bikinis. (use your imagination)
Wouldn't let me post the picture.

spudfan
23rd July 2022, 07:36 PM
Pffft, The Brits were on to this long ago...


Lotus, Bond, underwater. Girls in Bikinis. (use your imagination)
Wouldn't let me post the picture.

Nothing wrong with my e-mail or PM thing for bikini clad girls..[bigwhistle]

Discosux
23rd July 2022, 08:09 PM
Nothing wrong with my e-mail or PM thing for bikini clad girls..[bigwhistle]

Try this mick,

I think I might have figured it out.
Still cant upload it as a direct pic, probably because it's soo racy and hot.
It's worth the click though


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spudfan
24th July 2022, 04:45 AM
Try this mick,

I think I might have figured it out.
Still cant upload it as a direct pic, probably because it's soo racy and hot.
It's worth the click though


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Dang, that's hot!!!