Summer weather precautions

[spudfan]

Summer is here so I was heading outside to enjoy it.
"Don't forget the sun cream." said the Mrs "You might need it." Well I didn't need it

[loanrangie]

Summer is here so I was heading outside to enjoy it.
"Don't forget the sun cream." said the Mrs "You might need it." Well I didn't need it

Back to a normal Irish summer then [bigrolf].

[trout1105]

My main summer precautions are to ensure that the fridge is always full of icy cold beer and the boat is always fueled up and ready to go[biggrin][bigrolf]

[spudfan]

Back to a normal Irish summer then [bigrolf].
That's why the weather girl always tells us "This is officially the first day of summer." Bit hard to tell otherwise [bigwhistle]

[NavyDiver]

Oddly a link took me to a US page on what makes us die. Cold a bit, Heat a LOT.
https://www.weather.gov/hazstat/

The Irish Heat may be a cool place Mr Sudfan? The SPS rating of the jacket may negate the need for much sun screen[thumbsupbig]


Never fear down south here in Melbourne those northern sods hang it on me as well sir. I will not do that to Tassie as My fist love was a Hobart [biggrin]

Here is one of my babies in the setting sun.

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[Arapiles]

Found this:

Temperature records broken as Met Eireann establish new Climate Services Division - Met Eireann - The Irish Meteorological Service (https://www.met.ie/temperature-records-broken-as-met-eireann-establish-new-climate-services-division)

The record heat for Ireland was a scorching .... 33C.

We're now regularly getting summers with temps in the very high 40s - when the official temperature for Horsham was 47.9C our weather station at the farm was saying 50C.

[spudfan]

Found this:

Temperature records broken as Met Eireann establish new Climate Services Division - Met Eireann - The Irish Meteorological Service (https://www.met.ie/temperature-records-broken-as-met-eireann-establish-new-climate-services-division)

The record heat for Ireland was a scorching .... 33C.

We're now regularly getting summers with temps in the very high 40s - when the official temperature for Horsham was 47.9C our weather station at the farm was saying 50C.
Our temperature here where I live barely got over 20 degrees C and has been in the mid teens for the last while. There is a high of 17 degrees forecast for today and a sweltering 20 degrees given for tomorrow. Then it is back to the mid teens.

[trout1105]

Seriously speaking though.
In Summer here I try to get all my work done in the wee hours of the morning or late at night as it often gets to 45C+ during Summer.

[Arapiles]

Our temperature here where I live barely got over 20 degrees C and has been in the mid teens for the last while. There is a high of 17 degrees forecast for today and a sweltering 20 degrees given for tomorrow. Then it is back to the mid teens.

Mid-winter here and the highs next week range from 12C to 17C. Pretty frosty some nights though, but the clear skies mean sunny days.

[spudfan]

Mid-winter here and the highs next week range from 12C to 17C. Pretty frosty some nights though, but the clear skies mean sunny days.
Better get the sun cream out.

[Arapiles]

Better get the sun cream out.

Actually, I have been wearing sunblock on the sunny days.

[spudfan]

Actually, I have been wearing sunblock on the sunny days.

I suppose when you are used to the sun....

[ramblingboy42]

no such thing as getting used to the sun

I am just recovering from removal of skin cancers , one on my face which required plastic surgery, the other on my right shoulder which has required surgical removal and 20 radiation therapy sessions , all up near 3 months of hospital and specialist treatment , all my fault really because I really didn't pay attention to warnings.

SO, WARNINGS.....

WEAR A HAT , USE SUNSCREEN , COVER UP WHEN IN THE SUN.

I'm going to annoy the **** out of everyone I know over this....the damage is unneccessary.

[JDNSW]

Beautiful day here, sunshine, calm, and just below 10 degrees.

[Saitch]

Beautiful day here, sunshine, calm, and just below 10 degrees.

Two out of three ain't bad.

[jonesfam]

I don't know why Australia doesn't work on the Mexican model!
To me, in summer, it would make far more sense to all start work early, knock off during the hottest part of the day then go back to work late in the day.
I realize this may not work for every industry but maybe most.
Jonesfam

[scarry]

no such thing as getting used to the sun
all my fault really because I really didn't pay attention to warnings.

Yes need to get checked over when young to catch them,BCC,SCC,etc,while they are small.

I am in the same boat,didnt listen to warnings,spent many years on the beaches of Fraser island when i was young,lived in Qld 99% of my life,loved surf fishing and the outdoors in general,worked as a Tradie outdoors,have fair complexion.

I hated wearing long pants and long sleeved shirts in the hot weather,which in hindsight was stupid,particularly working on roofs.

I am up to number 79,mainly BCC's,burnt off,or cut off,in the last 5 yrs,going to the one specialist.
Also have had a couple of SCC's cut off as well.

The biggest ones have had cuts of around 50mm long,but luckily no plastic surgery yet.
Although i have had a couple cut off near my eye by a plastic surgeon as the specialist wouldnt do them.

My skin isnt getting any younger,so no doubt there is trouble ahead[bigsad][bigsad]

[3toes]

Have what I think are 2 on my arm. Trouble here is convincing the doctor (will not call it a battle yet) to give me a referral to a specialist who can check and determine if am right or wrong. Had to go through the same with he last one I spotted

[3toes]

We are it seems in what is shaping up to be a dry period or at least that is what the media is banging on about all the time. Why then has it been raining for a week and the forecast is rain next week?

[JDNSW]

Have what I think are 2 on my arm. Trouble here is convincing the doctor (will not call it a battle yet) to give me a referral to a specialist who can check and determine if am right or wrong. Had to go through the same with he last one I spotted

Something that would not happen here. About fifteen years ago I was visiting a niece and she commented "the top of your ear is bleeding". So the next day I went to my doctor. He was not in, so I saw one of his colleagues. He looked at it, and immediately called the skin specialist in the same building, who fitted me in an hour later, looked at it, took a needle biopsy, and sent it off.

About ten days later the results came back - melanoma. Within a couple of weeks I was in Sydney, where I had a six hour operation that left me without most of the right ear and most of the lymphatic system in that side of my neck.

A couple of points to ponder. My father died from melanoma and I am fair skinned, but not very fair. My hair is brown rather than blonde (these days it is grey, what there is of it!). Most cases of melanoma result from getting sunburnt before the age of fifteen. I recall that I very rarely got sunburnt as a child, but we did not wear hats to school and I almost certainly got sunburnt ears - short back and sides haircut.

Most other skin cancers result from sun exposure over a prolonged period. as a result, I see a skin specialist every six months - usually a few small spots to remove. Last few visits only a couple frozen off, last one in May, nothing; but he still wants to see me in November.

[disco gazza]

Having had numerous melanomas burnt,taken out surgically,I,m used to the uncomfortable bits after having the procedure done over many years.
Last one was a dark mole on my right leg just above the knee. Spec took it out, few days later he rings me, it is early stage 1.Has to take out the margins to be safe.
Does that the following week and all good.[smilebigeye]
The problem is that its stinging like all hell. At least stitches are coming out tomorrow. Hopefully a bit less stinging to look forward too.
I have a cream that I put on my face now APOC-5U fluorouracil 5% that is good if you notice spots that keep coming back.

All the best.

DG

[Saitch]

I'm down to quarterly visits, after an occurrence earlier this year and my brother recently having a melanoma behind his right pupil. Family history can come in to play with melanomas.
My younger sister has had two removed. Wouldn't hurt to let your close rellies know, if you've had one.

Scottish/Irish ancestry certainly doesn't help the skin, here in Oz. My beard was a reddish colour in days of yore.

[3toes]

See myself as an at risk candidate. Fair skin, blue eyes and what used to be blond hair now white. Lived a large slice of my life outdoors in tropics hence do my own checks and then go to doctor. The doctors talk about the need for caution and vigilance with cancer here but do not consider it a high priority for treatment despite early action being the best for patient outcome

[3toes]

See myself as an at risk candidate. Fair skin, blue eyes and what used to be blond hair now white. Lived a large slice of my life outdoors in tropics hence do my own checks and then go to doctor. The doctors talk about the need for caution and vigilance with cancer here but do not consider it a high priority for treatment despite early action being the best for patient outcome

Had first cancer removed in Australia. Saw doctor in morning for something else. Doctor spotted what might be a problem and was being treated that evening. Tell the doctors here and they say not possible as requires a specialist to diagnose and the agree a treatment plan that takes weeks

Had one doctor here refusing to accept was cancer as cannot possibly be treated so quickly must have been something else. The n the end had them write to my doctor in Australia to confirm as would not accept based on my description of treatment and speed of action

[JDNSW]

Interestingly, after Australia, an area with one of the highest rates of melanoma is Scotland - and this is mostly genetic, rather than the amount of sun exposure.

[NavyDiver]

Severe Weather Warning for DESTRUCTIVE WINDS For people in Central, South West and parts of East Gippsland, North Central, North East, West and South Gippsland and Wimmera Forecast Districts.

Issued at 4:57 pm Tuesday, 2 August 2022.

Damaging to locally destructive winds developing over Victoria from this evening.http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDV21037.shtml

Take care all

[superquag]

... and oour storm(s) from today and tomorrow are / will be heading Eastwards,,, Cold, Wet, and lotsa WIND. - Blame "greenhouse gasses especially CO2. a.k.a. "Global WARMING". [bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

[trout1105]

... and oour storm(s) from today and tomorrow are / will be heading Eastwards,,, Cold, Wet, and lotsa WIND. - Blame "greenhouse gasses especially CO2. a.k.a. "Global WARMING". [bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

It's winter we tend to get cold fronts with rain and wind this time of year, In Gerro we tend to get wind most days anyway.
A welcome drop of 25mm yesterday, Keep it coming Huey [thumbsupbig]

[RANDLOVER]

Interestingly, after Australia, an area with one of the highest rates of melanoma is Scotland - and this is mostly genetic, rather than the amount of sun exposure.

Most Scots can get skin cancer just from looking at a travel brochure.

[JDNSW]

Most Scots can get skin cancer just from looking at a travel brochure.

One of my colleagues, a red headed Scot, died from melanoma in his early thirties (in the early 80s).

[Homestar]

I don't know why Australia doesn't work on the Mexican model!
To me, in summer, it would make far more sense to all start work early, knock off during the hottest part of the day then go back to work late in the day.
I realize this may not work for every industry but maybe most.
Jonesfam

Not even most unfortunately- think of all the people that commute for an hour each way to work - that’s most people in most Cities so most people overall. It takes me 30 to 45 minutes each way depending on whom manages to crash in the freeway first, but I already leave home at 6am and get home at 6.30pm or later so I’m not about to make that day any longer but taking a couple of hours off in the middle of the day.

[jonesfam]

Didn't think about that.
My commute is 5 paces.
Back to the drawing board.
Jonesfam

[V8Ian]

Not even most unfortunately- think of all the people that commute for an hour each way to work - that’s most people in most Cities so most people overall. It takes me 30 to 45 minutes each way depending on whom manages to crash in the freeway first, but I already leave home at 6am and get home at 6.30pm or later so I’m not about to make that day any longer but taking a couple of hours off in the middle of the day.


Didn't think about that.
My commute is 5 paces.
Back to the drawing board.
Jonesfam
Most commute in the wrong vehicle, apparently. [bigwhistle]180172

[scarry]

Didn't think about that.
My commute is 5 paces.
Back to the drawing board.
Jonesfam

Mine is three paces to where the pile of paperwork is.

Then it’s out on the road,in the traffic to get to jobs.[bigsad]

[NavyDiver]

BOM declares La Niña alert, signalling strong chance of another sodden summer (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-16/la-nina-alert-declared-bureau-of-meteorology-weather/101337188)
Be alert not alarmed perhaps?[biggrin] "Renewed cooling in the tropical Pacific Ocean and models indicating La Niña is likely during spring and early summer have prompted the BOM to raise the El Niño Southern Oscillation Index scale to "alert", the last step before an official La Niña."

I like the rain usually. A short 40km Bike ride on Saturday MAMIL style, was wet then hail then wet[bighmmm] I was not feeling the love


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3gEkwhdXUE

[trout1105]

It wasn't that long ago that people were lamenting the drought's blighting the country, Rain is a GOOD thing[thumbsupbig]

[NavyDiver]

It wasn't that long ago that people were lamenting the drought's blighting the country, Rain is a GOOD thing[thumbsupbig]

Too much of a good thing can be[bigwhistle] My postcode was not to bad thank fully

How climate change is pushing insurance stress to new extremes Link (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-17/how-climate-change-is-pushing-insurance-stress-to-new-extremes/101336302)

[V8Ian]

There's more money in mud than dust.

[oldyella 76]

But Tim said it was going to rain again but not enough to fill the reservoirs or make the rivers run?

[ramblingboy42]

over what period of time was Tim talking?

my precautions for this summer are keep out of the sun....seriously....it's going to be bloody hot.....drink plenty of fluids......while I'm on the subject of fluids.....rain.....we are going to have more floods, sorry to say......la nina is reforming and the IOD is also raising it's head.

so if you like it hot and humid like I do , enjoy

[NavyDiver]

Summer is here so I was heading outside to enjoy it.
"Don't forget the sun cream." said the Mrs "You might need it." Well I didn't need it

How things Change Spud. Lots of new records= You may need the sun screen again mate

Heatwave: Fires blaze after UK passes 40C for first time - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62217282)

Noting Ireland seems just about perfect to me at about 25 ish.

"Farmers have warned the UK is not equipped to deal with water shortages caused by the changing climate, with Minette Batters, the president of the National Farmers' Union, saying the unprecedented temperatures were "really highlighting issues with water security"."

Could the UK and Ireland become like us the Lands of Fire, Floods and Droughts?

1976 is apparently the chatter.

"People on social media have been comparing the high temperatures in much of the UK with the heatwave of 1976, suggesting that the severity of the current hot weather is being exaggerated.So, what does the evidence show?


[B]How hot was the summer of 1976?
The peak that year was 35.9C. That has been beaten by the current temperatures, with 40.3C recorded (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62217282) so far.


The heatwave of 1976 started in June and lasted for two months. There was a lack of rainfall and a significant drought, with the government enforcing water rationing.


The heatwave was rare for that decade. The average maximum temperature in July in the 1970s was 18.7C (https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/pub/data/weather/uk/climate/datasets/Tmax/date/UK.txt). In the 2010s, it was more than 20C."


UK heatwave: How do temperatures compare with 1976? - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/62212604)

[spudfan]

We have not had the high temperatures that the U.K. has experienced. I have just checked on line and the forecast given for the next week gives a brief high temperature of 11 degrees centigade. Most is forecast in single figures.
Today while out on the hills I had a hailstone shower so no heatwave here yet. One unusual thing I did notice was this little oddity. While down by a lake I noticed a massive amount of from spawn. It would have easily been over 20 square foot in area. Though this was close to the lake it was away from the lake on a slight slope down to the lake.
The old lore over here is that if you see frog spawn in pools of water you can expect a dry warm spell of weather thus the frogs anticipate this and place the frog spawn in pools. With today's sighting of the mass of frog spawn on the ground outside of the lake and above the flood level of the lake, which drains out underground at the other end, I can only surmise that the frogs do not anticipate a warm, dry spell any time soon. Nature usually has the inside track on these things.
In soft ground I came across some fox tracks some hours old and some very fresh badger tracks. I came across prints of two different badgers. One set being slightly larger than the other. I always keep track of what the locals are up to when I am out in the hills.
It will be interesting to see if the frogs have called this one right and there will be no warm dry spell before the tadpoles emerge. I'll check in on the frog spawn and let you know how right or wrong the frogs were.

[RANDLOVER]

We have not had the high temperatures that the U.K. has experienced. I have just checked on line and the forecast given for the next week gives a brief high temperature of 11 degrees centigade. Most is forecast in single figures.
Today while out on the hills I had a hailstone shower so no heatwave here yet. One unusual thing I did notice was this little oddity. While down by a lake I noticed a massive amount of from spawn. It would have easily been over 20 square foot in area. Though this was close to the lake it was away from the lake on a slight slope down to the lake.
The old lore over here is that if you see frog spawn in pools of water you can expect a dry warm spell of weather thus the frogs anticipate this and place the frog spawn in pools. With today's sighting of the mass of frog spawn on the ground outside of the lake and above the flood level of the lake, which drains out underground at the other end, I can only surmise that the frogs do not anticipate a warm, dry spell any time soon. Nature usually has the inside track on these things............

Plants and animals can get it wrong. I believe some plants were flowering early there according to the BBC due to the warm weather, but there are no pollinating animals around, so they won't set fruit.

[4bee]

Summer is here so I was heading outside to enjoy it.
"Don't forget the sun cream." said the Mrs "You might need it." Well I didn't need it



Well with all that clobber on Spud, Sun cream may have been a bit of a waste.[bigrolf]

During the Summer of '76 there folk inc SWAMBO, were carting water out to the New Forest for the Ponies so thank goodness some people thought of them & she had just arrived back in the UK after many years away.