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laughto
7th August 2022, 08:16 AM
Has anyone installed a Traxide Battery Isolator in their new Defender?
Looking to run an Anderson plug to back of D300 to charge Van.
What other options have been used for Anderson plug and where have these run from?
zilch
7th August 2022, 04:29 PM
Has anyone installed a Traxide Battery Isolator in their new Defender?
Looking to run an Anderson plug to back of D300 to charge Van.
What other options have been used for Anderson plug and where have these run from?
our P400 which is a MHEV model as well had the Anderson cabled from the battery under the front seat, the
cable was run under the interior trim (which had to be pulled off) and out through a grommet under the rear door
into the external tow area. The work was done by the local LR preferred auto electrician company who do all
there work.. according to the invoice they fitted a Redarc smart start isolator, our caravan had its own
dc/dc charger ..
Smart Start SBI 12V 100A - Products | REDARC Electronics (https://www.redarc.com.au/smart-start-sbi-12v-100a)
laughto
8th August 2022, 02:22 PM
our P400 which is a MHEV model as well had the Anderson cabled from the battery under the front seat, the
cable was run under the interior trim (which had to be pulled off) and out through a grommet under the rear door
into the external tow area. The work was done by the local LR preferred auto electrician company who do all
there work.. according to the invoice they fitted a Redarc smart start isolator, our caravan had its own
dc/dc charger ..
Smart Start SBI 12V 100A - Products | REDARC Electronics (https://www.redarc.com.au/smart-start-sbi-12v-100a)
Yes I recall seeing your previous post on this and you used a LR recommended mob in Brookvale. I have had a quote from them to do both Anderson Plug and Brake controller (Redarc) and although I asked for them to split into the 2 items, only received a single cost. I have twice asked for the cost of the Anderson plug alone without any response. From what I have seen, the Brake controller is basically a plug-and-play and fairly simple DIY. Given they do not seem interested, I will probably take back to where I had this done on my D4, although still keen to understand any experiences with the Traxide product.
zilch
8th August 2022, 04:58 PM
We used them as we ordered our Defender from Jamie at LR Northern Beaches, and the sparks were their preferred
supplier, we used to live around the corner in Narrabeen. Have you seen the post from Tate Needham on the
Aus FB owners group on the simple brake controller install..a photo installation guide
Sol
8th August 2022, 05:50 PM
our P400 which is a MHEV model as well had the Anderson cabled from the battery under the front seat, the
cable was run under the interior trim (which had to be pulled off) and out through a grommet under the rear door
into the external tow area.
If it's a MHEV, would it be easier to take power from the terminals under the cargo area rather than from the battery under the front seat? I assume using the same terminals as this fella takes power from for his dual battery install Dual Battery Wiring Landrover Defender D300 MY22 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZibbQW3S7s). I'm no authority here - just making assumptions.
zilch
8th August 2022, 07:21 PM
If it's a MHEV, would it be easier to take power from the terminals under the cargo area rather than from the battery under the front seat? I assume using the same terminals as this fella takes power from for his dual battery install Dual Battery Wiring Landrover Defender D300 MY22 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZibbQW3S7s). I'm no authority here - just making assumptions.
I left it up to the auto sparks, they had already done a couple of MHEV and I certainly was not
up to speed on the best options
laughto
9th August 2022, 07:52 AM
We used them as we ordered our Defender from Jamie at LR Northern Beaches, and the sparks were their preferred
supplier, we used to live around the corner in Narrabeen. Have you seen the post from Tate Needham on the
Aus FB owners group on the simple brake controller install..a photo installation guide
Yes, that is why I just wanted a quote for the Anderson plug as I reckon I can do the Brake Controller myself.
BTW, Jamie is leaving NB LR on 24th Aug. He and Vanessa have been good with their communication over our 'journey' since my direct contact with them in Dec 21.
laughto
9th August 2022, 07:55 AM
If it's a MHEV, would it be easier to take power from the terminals under the cargo area rather than from the battery under the front seat? I assume using the same terminals as this fella takes power from for his dual battery install Dual Battery Wiring Landrover Defender D300 MY22 - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZibbQW3S7s). I'm no authority here - just making assumptions.
Yep, agreed that's what I reckon as well. He seems to take the power from a Bus Bar in that compartment.
I was also looking also to see if anyone had installed a Traxide in the Defender or is this not a thing?
zilch
9th August 2022, 09:27 AM
BTW, Jamie is leaving NB LR on 24th Aug. He and Vanessa have been good with their communication over our 'journey' since my direct contact with them in Dec 21.
a top bloke and a very honest sales person, kept me informed through our order and delivery cycle
zilch
9th August 2022, 10:00 AM
Yep, agreed that's what I reckon as well. He seems to take the power from a Bus Bar in that compartment.
I was also looking also to see if anyone had installed a Traxide in the Defender or is this not a thing?
that would have saved a few ripped finger nails if they had gone from the bus bar in the rear rather than the
battery which required all the plastic trim to be pulled from the passenger compartment
drivesafe
9th August 2022, 03:00 PM
Has anyone installed a Traxide Battery Isolator in their new Defender?
Hi laughhto and while I was in the process of developing two new kits for the New Defenders, owing to a world wide shortage of IC, have have now limited all my kit production to just D3s and D4s.
It will be at least 12 months before the IC I use, are available and so it will be at least 12 months before I have kits for the new defender..
Here is a link where I explain my predicament and what kits will be available for the foreseeable future.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/the-verandah/291906-traxide-dual-battery-kits-urgent-notification.html#post3156709
laughto
10th August 2022, 11:08 AM
Hi laughhto and while I was in the process of developing two new kits for the New Defenders, owing to a world wide shortage of IC, have have now limited all my kit production to just D3s and D4s.
It will be at least 12 months before the IC I use, are available and so it will be at least 12 months before I have kits for the new defender..
Here is a link where I explain my predicament and what kits will be available for the foreseeable future.
I am sorry for any inconvenience this may cause.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/the-verandah/291906-traxide-dual-battery-kits-urgent-notification.html#post3156709
Thanks Tim, I did not see this as have been concentrating on the Defender forum only.
Any recommendations for a Battery Isolator in lieu of your system? DM me if you prefer.
Wayne
DiscoJeffster
10th August 2022, 07:17 PM
Thanks Tim, I did not see this as have been concentrating on the Defender forum only.
Any recommendations for a Battery Isolator in lieu of your system? DM me if you prefer.
Wayne
The intervolt below has customisable cut voltage.
intervolt Electronic Battery Isolator EBI12100A – Raw 12 Volt (https://raw12volt.com.au/products/intervolt-electronic-battery-isolator)
laughto
10th August 2022, 09:39 PM
The intervolt below has customisable cut voltage.
intervolt Electronic Battery Isolator EBI12100A – Raw 12 Volt (https://raw12volt.com.au/products/intervolt-electronic-battery-isolator)
Something you have used?
DiscoJeffster
11th August 2022, 10:16 AM
Something you have used?
Nope. Was looking at this and the Traxide and went Traxide, but the benefit of Traxide allowing you to also consume some of your primary battery with the voltage cutout at 12.2v is also a feature of this, so makes sense it’ll deliver a similar outcome [emoji2369]
drivesafe
11th August 2022, 12:34 PM
Nope. Was looking at this and the Traxide and went Traxide, but the benefit of Traxide allowing you to also consume some of your primary battery with the voltage cutout at 12.2v is also a feature of this, so makes sense it’ll deliver a similar outcome [emoji2369]
If someone is going to wait for my isolators to become available, they would be far better off just using a standard solenoid type isolator rather than pay the price for one of those.
My DT90 is around the same price as their cheapest unit.
But the DT90 protects both the cranking battery and the auxiliary battery. That one only protects the cranking battery.
The DT90 comes with the In-Cab module that allows you to make operating changes while sitting in the driver's seat. That unit needs you to go out under the bonnet and actually re-program it, each time you want a charge.
The DT 90 has other features just not available on other types of isolators.
Ferret
11th August 2022, 02:50 PM
Something you have used?
I have used both intervolt (the 150 amp model) and traxide. I prefer the intervolt.
drivesafe
11th August 2022, 04:36 PM
I have used both intervolt (the 150 amp model) and traxide. I prefer the intervolt.
Why?
Ferret
11th August 2022, 06:48 PM
Why?
a) When I went to install it, it was wired incorrectly from the factory, the remote unit didn't work as per the supplied installation instructions. Phone call sorted it - excellent service but unnecessary hassle.
b) After a few months use it burnt out on a remote trip. Terminals overheated. Just bypassed it and returned it for repair when I got home. New unit returned with modified terminals. Lifetime warranty, excellent service but unnecessary hassle and besides it failed when I needed it.
c) Second unit burnt out on next remote trip. Terminals overheated. Just bypassed it and returned it for repair when I got home. New unit returned with modified terminal lock nuts. Lifetime warranty, excellent service but unnecessary hassle and besides it failed when I needed it again.
d) Third unit installed burnt out on next remote trip. Terminals overheated. Just bypassed it and chucked it out when I got home. Lifetime warranty, excellent service but unnecessary hassle and besides it failed when I needed it once again.
Intervolt - Completely solid state, no moving parts. Decent terminal block. Negligible current draw when idle. Positive indication of state - ''on (joined) / 'off' (isolated), no mickey mouse flashing, blinking, fading in, fading out LED to indicate state. Programmable to same cut in / cut out voltages as Traxide. Able to have remote switch in cab to join / isolate as per Traxide. Able to show status in cab remote (ie joined / isolated) as per Traxide.
But the big thing, it has not burnt out yet.
drivesafe
11th August 2022, 07:07 PM
I see and understandable.
Also yours was not the only one to fail.
It took a while to find the problem and fix it.
I ended up bringing out a completely new unit and also a new high current version of the DT90.
And like anything new, these had a few teething problems but all sorted.
Sorry Ferret for the inconvenience caused by the older unit.
Ferret
11th August 2022, 07:54 PM
Thank you for a candid response.
shack
11th August 2022, 10:28 PM
Well done guys, that's the kind of honesty that we all need.
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DiscoJeffster
11th August 2022, 10:28 PM
If someone is going to wait for my isolators to become available
And that’s when?
drivesafe
12th August 2022, 03:14 AM
And that’s when?
Over the last 12 months I have fixed problems in the USI-160 and replaced it with the new UST-175.
I have also added a number of new features to the DT90 and the UST-175, like the LOCK function, and was in the process of getting ready to promote all this work, when I, like other electronics users, got caught up in the worldwide IC shortage.
By shear luck, I bought a large quantity of IC late last year but just 3 weeks ago, I found out that there will be no ICs available for the next 52 weeks ( at the earliest ) so I have had to restrict my production to just D3 and D4 kits.
With the stocks of ICs I have, this will keep me in business for the next 2 to 3 years.
They are suggesting about an 18 month lead time for IC production to increase and for new stock to become available.
While I will keep developing a number of new projects, I will not be able to go into full production of these new products, including kits for the new Defenders, for possibly as much as 18 months.
Again, sorry for any inconvenience this will occur, but I have no option.
Eric SDV6SE
16th August 2022, 07:34 PM
They are suggesting about an 18 month lead time for IC production to increase and for new stock to become available.
While I will keep developing a number of new projects, I will not be able to go into full production of these new products, including kits for the new Defenders, for possibly as much as 18 months.
Aligns perfectly with the lead time for my MY23.5 P400SE (at last correspondence from JLRA).
DiscoJeffster
16th August 2022, 10:34 PM
Aligns perfectly with the lead time for my MY23.5 P400SE (at last correspondence from JLRA).
The race will be on to see who’s later.
Eric SDV6SE
17th August 2022, 07:34 AM
Happy to be second in that race....
jwb
28th January 2023, 04:22 PM
If someone is going to wait for my isolators to become available, they would be far better off just using a standard solenoid type isolator rather than pay the price for one of those.
My DT90 is around the same price as their cheapest unit.
But the DT90 protects both the cranking battery and the auxiliary battery. That one only protects the cranking battery.
The DT90 comes with the In-Cab module that allows you to make operating changes while sitting in the driver's seat. That unit needs you to go out under the bonnet and actually re-program it, each time you want a charge.
The DT 90 has other features just not available on other types of isolators.
Hi Tim
I have your USI in my D2 and full kit with rear power in my D4.
Have ordered a D300 Defender and will wait for your kit to be available. In the meantime are you suggesting simply get a decent solenoid isolator and run off the main battery with ignition sense for the solenoid?
I have an Arrid isolater I used on the D2 prior to getting your unit.
thanks
drivesafe
28th January 2023, 07:25 PM
Hi folks and first off all I can do is offer my apologies for the delay in getting replacements on their way.
Thanks to a total stuffup of a move to new premises, I have literally been closed since the beginning of October last year.
The move has been an absolute nightmare and when I have the time, I will post up my experience.
But for now, I started shipping the first of many back orders last week a I will work my way through them as quickly as possible.
The good news is that as I have been able to source the chip I use, all be it in the smallest possible package, and I will need to have the new PCBs assembled by a third party, but it will allow me to go back to producing the full range of products and some new ones.
NOTE, while I am in full production of the SC89s and DT90s, there will be at least 3 weeks before the USI160 and the new UST-175 go back into production as I am waiting on a couple of components need to produce these isolator.
I have a large number of back orders to fill and will be contacting all those who had the patience to wait till I was up and running again and will meet these orders first.
There are a number of USI-160 replacements to be catered for and I will address these first, once there production is up and running.
Again my apologies for the delay.
PJJ
29th January 2023, 10:15 AM
Thanks Tim
IanR
29th January 2023, 06:47 PM
Hi Tim,
I have used your Dual Battery systems in a D3 and a D4.
Just purchased a mild-hybrid Defender 90 and looking at dual battery options.
I am aware of your supply problems. However, now that you are on the way again, what are your expectations re a solution for my new vehicle?
IanR
drivesafe
29th January 2023, 07:15 PM
Hi Tim,
I have used your Dual Battery systems in a D3 and a D4.
Just purchased a mild-hybrid Defender 90 and looking at dual battery options.
I am aware of your supply problems. However, now that you are on the way again, what are your expectations re a solution for my new vehicle?
IanR
Hi Ian and I will be making most the kits I use to make, but as posted, I have to get the backorders covered first.
All going well, that should be achieved quickly and I should have SC80 and DT90 kits readily available by the end of this coming week.
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