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simo2420
26th August 2022, 06:46 AM
Has anyone used a "performance chip" on a 2.2 puma motor. (I have a 2013 Dual Cab).
Specifically a SW- Diesel one.
Visited his site at Agfest.
Its a plug and play item. Disconnect plug into common rail and insert the SW harness in place.
Its not a remap of the OE ECU, can be removed whenever, can be reused on another motor.
For a reprogram cost can be moved to a new vehicle. I.E. a new defender D250-D300.
Any thoughts please (be nice).
N.
100inch
26th August 2022, 07:44 AM
I would stay away from tuners offering across a range of car manufactures and use someone like Bell HOME - Bell Auto Services, BAS Remaps, Independent Land Rover Specialist In York , Service, Repairs, Custom Remaps York, Performance upgrades, BAS Landrover tuning. (https://bellautoservices.co.uk/)
The 2.4/2.2 are expensive to fix and my 2.4 runs perfect on his products. Worth knowing, that any Puma gains a lot by modifing/ replacing the airduct alongside the wing. m
simo2420
26th August 2022, 09:36 AM
I would stay away from tuners offering across a range of car manufactures and use someone like Bell HOME - Bell Auto Services, BAS Remaps, Independent Land Rover Specialist In York , Service, Repairs, Custom Remaps York, Performance upgrades, BAS Landrover tuning. (https://bellautoservices.co.uk/)
The 2.4/2.2 are expensive to fix and my 2.4 runs perfect on his products. Worth knowing, that any Puma gains a lot by modifing/ replacing the airduct alongside the wing. m
It was the $900 instead of $1200 Field day special that awoke my interest.
I am actually not unhappy with the performance of the young lady. I personally think its a phenomenal little motor, Daily driver is a S1 300Tdi disco.
Makes sense to go to the home of the beast.
Can you explain the air duct mod please?
Tombie
26th August 2022, 01:38 PM
Don’t do it.
Use a reliable tuner and have ECU remapped.
These plug in boxes are outright a bad idea.
big harold
26th August 2022, 04:57 PM
Don't do it! all these boxes do is add fuel. Go with a BAS tune this will give you a code reader as well.
You can also swap between tunes when you like.
I would go with a upgraded intercooler while you at it.
Best mod you can do is get a 4WD supa centre dash gauge that will give you real time and accurate coolant temps.
Mark
simo2420
26th August 2022, 07:15 PM
Don't do it! all these boxes do is add fuel. Go with a BAS tune this will give you a code reader as well.
You can also swap between tunes when you like.
I would go with a upgraded intercooler while you at it.
Best mod you can do is get a 4WD supa centre dash gauge that will give you real time and accurate coolant temps.
Mark
I think it falls under the old addage that "if it sounds to good to be true then it ain't".
From the propaganda I deduced that all it probably was doing was upping the fuel or injector pattern.
I have a couple of other changes such as wheels and tyres that the money would be better spent on first and I still haven't got around to a bullbat yet.
Thanks again
karlz
31st August 2022, 07:55 PM
For what is worth, the BAS tune is awesome.
Prior to upgrading the Intercooler I ran the BAS on 140bhp tune, after I upgraded the intercooler I ran it on 170bhp.
I cant imagine how I would drive it without it.
Its worth the money
DiscoMick
3rd September 2022, 05:05 PM
Our 2.4 Puma Defender came with a Steinbauer chip fitted by the previous owner.
It has not given any problems.
From what I can figure as a non-expert, rather than increasing the volume of fuel, what it actually does is to extend the length of the fuel burn.
I am wary of overheating the engine, so I don't flog it.
simo2420
4th September 2022, 07:38 AM
Thanks.
I think you can always get more out of almost any motor, but I wonder if we should completely disregard the decisions that the manufacturer has made when they chose the final recipe for that motor in that car. longevity, performance, reliability, fuel quality, intended uses, intended users. A Balancing act, not saying we should be a slave to their decree.
I think the same motor was used in an earlier Evoque but had higher outputs.
So I would probably like to know what parameters they tweak and at what reduction in safety margin
Steinbauer is a reputable brand.
It was just an opportunity that presented itself and was checking the depth of the boghole so to speak.
cheers
N.
Our 2.4 Puma Defender came with a Steinbauer chip fitted by the previous owner.
It has not given any problems.
From what I can figure as a non-expert, rather than increasing the volume of fuel, what it actually does is to extend the length of the fuel burn.
I am wary of overheating the engine, so I don't flog it.
Tombie
5th September 2022, 10:26 PM
Our 2.4 Puma Defender came with a Steinbauer chip fitted by the previous owner.
It has not given any problems.
From what I can figure as a non-expert, rather than increasing the volume of fuel, what it actually does is to extend the length of the fuel burn.
I am wary of overheating the engine, so I don't flog it.
Just out of curiosity- how do you think it “increases length of fuel burn” without adding more fuel [emoji848]
Hint: increases rail pressure and injector pulse = more fuel
DiscoMick
6th September 2022, 01:40 PM
They say it doesn't increase rail pressure.
Here's their explanation:
FAQ | DieselChipTuning – Completely Safe and Legit Service (https://dieselchiptuning.com.au/faq/)
scarry
6th September 2022, 02:18 PM
They say it doesn't increase rail pressure.
Here's their explanation:
FAQ | DieselChipTuning – Completely Safe and Legit Service (https://dieselchiptuning.com.au/faq/)
"Doesn't affect warranty,remove before taking it for a service" :eek2:
Most modern vehicles monitor and record continually,all sorts of parameters.
If the vehicle is under warranty,it wouldn't take much of a look from the manufacturer to see something is a bit odd.
I know of one manufacturer that wont do any engine/trans repairs without head office going through the downloads from the vehicles ECU's.
They are not stupid when it comes to warranty issues.
Tombie
6th September 2022, 08:15 PM
They say it doesn't increase rail pressure.
Here's their explanation:
FAQ | DieselChipTuning – Completely Safe and Legit Service (https://dieselchiptuning.com.au/faq/)
Quotes: “Does not rely on”…. “Above safe levels”…
Hence it uses multiple adjustments to parameters.
It’s a combination of at least some of these:
Injector pulse width
Fuel pressure
Timing
Boost
Boost requires extra fuel
Extra fuel comes from either longer pulse and/or pressure
If it’s working for you that’s fine…..
DiscoMick
7th September 2022, 10:09 AM
I'm no expert, but based on what I've read I think it lengthens the pulse, if you push it, which I try to avoid.
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