WOKE...do you use this word incorrectly....or others?

[ramblingboy42]

I was reading an article where the author used the word woke 3 times in 2 sentences.

It appears to be trendy to use this word but not to do with sleep periods.

I could not understand what the author was actually saying and in fact had absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the meaning of the word.

So for those of you , who , like me , get really ****ed off when people use words so incorrectly , here is the true definition of the word.

...*woke*...alert to racial prejudice and discrimination....

it originated out of African/American english and came to promenance out of the Black Lives Matter Movement....accepted into dictionary space in 2014.

a few years ago Paul Keating , a linguistical master , described someone as being recalcitrant and the next thing , people were using the word everywhere especially the rugby league commentators.....but I haven't heard them call a player woke yet.....probably because I fall asleep to their incessant babble

are there any incorrect word usages that **** you off?

[JDNSW]

Effect instead of affect, affect instead of effect, will do for a start.

[Slunnie]

Language evolves, just have to keep up.

https://i.imgflip.com/1exm80.jpg

[Saitch]

"Medium strip" instead of "Median".

"Of" in place of "Have" is an absolute travesty.

[austastar]

Hi,
Snuck in
Trud on
Clumb down
Skun it
Squoze it
A small slither
Simular to

Youse lot


Cheers

[BradC]

Two that irritate me regularly :

Dun (as in I dun that).
That needs fixed.

[ATH]

The word "absolutely" is the one that really pees me off. It's used everywhere for anything by anyone especially stupid pollies. I blame a local car dealer here in Perth ( just over the Causeway in Vic Park) who used it in his adverts some years ago and its use has really taken off.
Really ****es me off to hear it used in such a way that makes its use absolutely stupid. Absolutely it does.....
AlanH.

[prelude]

As with any word that is as laden as "woke" it has become an almost derogatory term for extreme leftists types as well.

Fascinating how that goes. I wonder also when we should allow "new" words into a dictionary since this word will most likely not last a decade?

Cheers,
-P

[p38arover]

I’ve noticed many times in US writings the use of “then” instead of “than” and vice versa. It often completely changes the meaning of a sentence, e.g., “I’d rather get a fine then lose my licence.” Yes, I’ve seen that written.

Again Americans saying “drug” instead of “dragged”, “grinded” instead of “ground” as in “I grinded the coffee”.

[Don 130]

And I always wonder what the term 'Skull dragged' says, that dragged doesn't say. While it may sound very tough to the ignorant, it doesn't make sense.
Don.

[NavyDiver]

WOKE me up[biggrin] Honestly the labels an acronyms are political spin are verbal vomit

I have heard some drongo trying to use WOKE several times and each time I woke up the the possibility they are a tosser?

[V8Ian]

Ecsetera; acsk. :bat:

[Saitch]

Anythink.

[windsock]

"Like" as in, when the young one talks like, you know, about the weekend and like, how he and mates did some sick skids like...

[3toes]

Crisis - why is suddenly everything a crisis?

[Xtreme]

I can't understand why every flood is now referred to as a 'flash' flood.

[NavyDiver]

I can't understand why every flood is now referred to as a 'flash' flood.

Its a 'Flash in the pan' play? [biggrin]

[Saitch]

I can't understand why every flood is now referred to as a 'flash' flood.

I agree, although it's still proper to say, "Flash car", "Flash house" or " Flash clothes", ay!

[Robmacca]

Epic... 100%... Sick... and the list goes on...

[Saitch]

Epic... 100%... Sick... and the list goes on...

Surely, we've been to a few "Iconic" places, too Rob? [tonguewink][tonguewink][biggrin]

[p38arover]

A word I’ve come to hate when used to describe communities, etc., is “vibrant”.

Where I live is described as vibrant - I’ve lived in this house for 40 years and I wouldn’t call Emu Plains as vibrant!

[Ronski]

My favorite.
181251

[jonesfam]

This thread is:
"Awesome!"

[afb]

It really annoys me when people arks me to be more pacific.

[Ferret]

A while back, when things were closed down, they were described as 'shut'. Now days they are described as 'shuttered'.

Weird.

[jon3950]

Gifted. WTF happened to given?

[ozscott]

There are so many. But heavy rain, storms, possible flooding etc now has to been a "rain event"...there is so much now that is straight out of the Sir Humphrey Appelby playbook. And weasel words drive me crazy. Just say what it is.

Cheers

[POD]

Gifted. WTF happened to given?

Gifted seems to have universal application in Moronspeak, replacing given, give and gave.
One that does my crust is the 'Princess Highway'.

[V8Ian]

Gifted seems to have universal application in Moronspeak, replacing given, give and gave.
One that does my crust is the 'Princess Highway'.
I'll bet we have members from Wollongong to Crafters who appreciate the Princess Highway. [tonguewink]

[vnx205]

A word I’ve come to hate whe used to describe communities, etc., is “vibrant”.

Where I live is described as vibrant - I’ve lived in this house for 40 years and I wouldn’t call Emu Plains as vibrant!

When those same communities suffer a disaster or tragedy, it seems that every single one of them is "resilient".

EDIT: and "tight knit".

[Homestar]

‘Weather Event’ ticks me off no end - why is any weather an event? Good, bad or otherwise it’s just weather!

[scarry]

Some of my pet hates are "Change out",and "Called me up"

I think these come from the younger generation watching too many American TV shows.

Those sayings definitely were not around years ago.

[V8Ian]

Haitch for aitch (H).

[BradC]

Epic... 100%... Sick... and the list goes on...

Mintox!

[4bee]

WOKE me up[biggrin] Honestly the labels an acronyms are political spin are verbal vomit

I have heard some drongo trying to use WOKE several times and each time I woke up the the possibility they are a tosser?

Tossers referring to Woke Drongos. [bigrolf][wink11]


Could of instead of could have.

[4bee]

Some of my pet hates are "Change out",and "Called me up"

I think these come from the younger generation watching too many American TV shows.

Those sayings definitely were not around years ago.


Have you thought that geezers our age might have missed them as the world races by to nowhere in particular?

"**** me, what was in that little blank gap?":Rolling:

[BMKal]

Yep - could of, would of, should of learned basic spelling and grammar.

And the one that I see more than once every day - "defiantly" where they really mean "definitely".

Some people (often on facebook) try so hard to use big words that they just don't realize how bloody stupid they are coming across as.

[p38arover]

People/companies don't contact/call someone these days, they "reach out" to them.

[4bee]

People/companies don't contact/call someone these days, they "reach out" to them.



Yes Ron, that one really ****es me off no end.:angry::angry::ohyes:

I wonder how far they can "reach out" before they fall off their chair?

[Xtreme]

I was standing up at a meeting a few days ago and I was told to "take a seat" ............ they were nice seats so I picked one up and started walking off with it!

[101RRS]

Maybe this thread should be renamed - "The Silly Old Fart" thread. [bighmmm]

[V8Ian]

I was standing up at a meeting a few days ago and I was told to "take a seat" ............ they were nice seats so I picked one up and started walking off with it!
Somewhere else you're not going to be invited back to, Roger. [wink11][biggrin]

[4bee]

I was standing up at a meeting a few days ago and I was told to "take a seat" ............ they were nice seats so I picked one up and started walking off with it!

If they were that nice why wouldn't you? [bigrolf]

[Xtreme]

Somewhere else you're not going to be invited back to, Roger. [wink11][biggrin]
Actually I didn't get very far before I had to explain to them that if they wanted me to sit down then they should have asked me to sit down instead of telling me to take a seat - I think I made my point with them and have been invited back. :angel:

[Don 130]

Bathroom instead of toilet. Do they really want a bath?

Don.

[p38arover]

Bathroom instead of toilet. Do they really want a bath?


The local Homemaker Centre in Penrith has a large sign pointing to the Bathrooms.

181282

[Johnno1969]

A word I’ve come to hate when used to describe communities, etc., is “vibrant”.

Where I live is described as vibrant - I’ve lived in this house for 40 years and I wouldn’t call Emu Plains as vibrant!

Slightly off topic, but I came across something from QI which I enjoyed recently:

Stephen Fry makes reference to the fact that, in some quarters, "Third World Country" is now not considered an acceptable term.

As he asks what might now be considered by many people to be more suitable, Alan Davies says qucikly "Vibrant Tourist Destination".

[windsock]

"Reality" TV!

Damn if that is reality or even close to anything like it, then I prefer my unreal unscripted and unedited existence... [biggrin]

[4bee]

I was standing up at a meeting a few days ago and I was told to "take a seat" ............ they were nice seats so I picked one up and started walking off with it!



Well since you were already standing you were half way there with your posture.. A few more paces & you were gone. Shame really, it probably would have looked quite nice in your gaff/conservatory.
[bigrolf]

[4bee]

The local Homemaker Centre in Penrith has a large sign pointing to the Bathrooms.

181282


They would have been mightily unimpressed if folk actually ****ed in them or even washed their hands & face in the Bowl.

[4bee]

"Reality" TV!

Damn if that is reality or even close to anything like it, then I prefer my unreal unscripted and unedited existence... [biggrin]

They are all Tossers or me me-s.

[Robmacca]

"Reality" TV!

Damn if that is reality or even close to anything like it, then I prefer my unreal unscripted and unedited existence... [biggrin]


Yep... This has KILLED Free to Air TV... it's all Total crap

[trout1105]

WOKE

A "Posh" name for an Asian style frypan that you cook up your stir fry in[bigwhistle]

[Redtail]

Acronym when initialism is meant.
Stationary vs stationery.
Humbled vs honoured - why do award recipients say they're "humbled"? It's damn near rude to say you feel lesser or diminished because they get recognition.
And lately ventilate instead of vent, most recently during the Lehrmann trial when Higgins said she called her boyfriend to "ventilate".

[TasD90]

Word of the moment, "vunerable" instead of "vulnerable".

Worst of all, in many newspapers and news stories, "One in five Australians are........." !!!!!!!!!!

Similarly "None are......."

Does no one understand the difference between singular and plural.

Peter

[Saitch]

.....not to mention, "The team are..."

[vnx205]

I guess that like most linguistic abominations that the following one originated in the USA.

It seems some people are unaware of the fact that fractions exist, so they insist on using multiples when making comparisons.

They say that a 25 year old is twice as young as a 50 year old. Surely they are half as old.

They say that a carbon fibre kayak is twice as light as a fibreglass kayak. Surely it is half the weight.

The version using multiples doesn't make sense mathematically. They say product A is three times cheaper than product B. So if product B costs $10, three times $10 is $30. How can product A cost $30 less than $10?

[vnx205]

.....not to mention, "The team are..."

Collective nouns can be a bit complicated. There are times when the focus is on the individuals who make up the group.

It would be correct to say that the team are all wearing different coloured socks.

There is an explanation as well as a couple of better examples here:
Pronoun Agreement: Collective Nouns | Touro University (https://www.touro.edu/departments/writing-center/tutorials/pronoun-agreement-collective-nouns/)

However, a lot of times your criticism is justified.

[4bee]

.....not to mention, "The team are..."


Folk who say "Punters" when actually referring to Viewers &/or Clients need a kick in the arse.

No, really.

[POD]

There is one that I have heard repeatedly that stops me in my tracks every time...one team is 'versing' another. I first heard this with my daughter's under 12 netball team; "Who are we versing this week?". It has since made it's way into the vernacular.

[Saitch]

Another thing that irks me is the media, weather mob.

"Sunset will be at Six Thirty-something pm, this evening". Well, I'll be damned.

A headline banner once stated, "Police arrest man wielding chainsaw".

Now, there's three ways to take this, although I have to say that I've never seen a "Man wielding chainsaw". Sounds like a dangerous bit of kit.

[POD]

And another thing...universal use of 'so-and-so and I' when so-and-so and me' is indicated. 'Someone gave this to Ledasha and I for Christmas'.

[ChookD2]

It's not an "ungion"!!!!

[RANDLOVER]

It's not an "ungion"!!!!

Instead of onion or union?

[POD]

Another thing that irks me is the media, weather mob.

"Sunset will be at Six Thirty-something pm, this evening". Well, I'll be damned.

A headline banner once stated, "Police arrest man wielding chainsaw".

Now, there's three ways to take this, although I have to say that I've never seen a "Man wielding chainsaw". Sounds like a dangerous bit of kit.

Reminds me of the report that stated someone had been 'confronted by a group of ten armed men'. One ten-armed man would be scary enough, but a group of them:eek2:?

I always want to hit the reporter who says 'A man has been killed after his car crashed into a pole...' Either he was killed WHEN his car crashed into a pole, or he survived only to succumb to some other misfortune at a later time.

[ChookD2]

Instead of onion or union?

Onion of course. [thumbsupbig] Never heard anyone call a union an ungion. [tonguewink]

[4bee]

There is one that I have heard repeatedly that stops me in my tracks every time...one team is 'versing' another. I first heard this with my daughter's under 12 netball team; "Who are we versing this week?". It has since made it's way into the vernacular.



If Sheep could only speak eh? Oh hang on they can they speak sheep with dialects to match their breed & those Yorkshire breeds are very difficult "Aye Uup me duuks etc."

[4bee]

Reminds me of the report that stated someone had been 'confronted by a group of ten armed men'. One ten-armed man would be scary enough, but a group of them:eek2:?

I always want to hit the reporter who says 'A man has been killed after his car crashed into a pole...' Either he was killed WHEN his car crashed into a pole, or he survived only to succumb to some other misfortune at a later time.


Do you think they may be a bunch of Octupus that was/were caught in a nuclear blast, say at Monte Bello during UK Atomic Trials ?

[4bee]

Onion of course. [thumbsupbig] Never heard anyone call a union an ungion. [tonguewink]


Especially when trying for a Wage rise & shorter Work hours & a new Lunch Room.

[RANDLOVER]

My bugbear is unique, people say "really unique" or "very unique" whereas something is unique or it is not, as in the only one of it's kind.

[scarry]

When watching the V8's,Crompton often says "the weather is coming".
One of my pet hates.

What he means is the rain is coming or the weather change is coming.Not the weather is coming.

[Tombie]

Mini tornado

No such thing!

[V8Ian]

My bugbear is unique, people say "really unique" or "very unique" whereas something is unique or it is not, as in the only one of it's kind.
As in a bit pregnant? [bigwhistle]

[Saitch]

....half dead?

[Ronski]

Give it your 110%.?? coaches and the like.
If using percentages, then 100 is the max, can't be 110%, does not exist.

[BreakingBad]

There are so many. But heavy rain, storms, possible flooding etc now has to been a "rain event"...there is so much now that is straight out of the Sir Humphrey Appelby playbook. And weasel words drive me crazy. Just say what it is.

Cheers



Those terms are so "Climate Change"

Now that we are in a "Climate Crisis" we need new terms. [bigsmile]

[BreakingBad]

"Safe Haven"


A secure place where a gun safe or money safe is stored which also provides protection from a safe cracker or thief.

[4bee]

Give it your 110%.?? coaches and the like.
If using percentages, then 100 is the max, can't be 110%, does not exist.



That is par for the course for Coaches.

W anchor



To give 110% could put you in a Combustible Box.[bigrolf]

[4bee]

As in a bit pregnant? [bigwhistle]



Perzactly, there is no pulling back or out.[bighmmm]

[Saitch]

Give it your 110%.?? coaches and the like.
If using percentages, then 100 is the max, can't be 110%, does not exist.

Hmmm? What is 55% multiplied by 2? :confused:

[BradC]

There is one that I have heard repeatedly that stops me in my tracks every time...one team is 'versing' another. I first heard this with my daughter's under 12 netball team; "Who are we versing this week?". It has since made it's way into the vernacular.

Not long after I arrived in Dubai I walked onto a site to be greeted with an office door marked "incharge". The occupant had "incharge" written on his helmet. He was the supervisor, but people wandering into site and asking "where is the supervisor?" were often met with a blank stare. This resulted in the inevitable "who is in charge here?". When you have > 100 nationalities of which the majority speak English as some second or third language things evolve differently.

The worst part was you had to learn what it all meant and then had to use it yourself. If I ever hear a person finish a conversation with "please do the needful ASAP" again, my head might explode.

[4bee]

Not long after I arrived in Dubai I walked onto a site to be greeted with an office door marked "incharge". The occupant had "incharge" written on his helmet. He was the supervisor, but people wandering into site and asking "where is the supervisor?" were often met with a blank stare. This resulted in the inevitable "who is in charge here?". When you have > 100 nationalities of which the majority speak English as some second or third language things evolve differently.

The worst part was you had to learn what it all meant and then had to use it yourself. If I ever hear a person finish a conversation with "please do the needful ASAP" again, my head might explode.


A-S-A-P is another recent conversational "Bugsme". :soapbox:

[BreakingBad]

That is par for the course for Coaches.

W anchor



To give 110% could put you in a Combustible Box.[bigrolf]


It's taught at the school for "footy smarts"?

[POD]

Give it your 110%.?? coaches and the like.
If using percentages, then 100 is the max, can't be 110%, does not exist.

What about volumetric efficiency in a supercharged engine?

[4bee]

What about volumetric efficiency in a supercharged engine?


Shirley that would follow exactly the same 100% is still 100% regardless of what other values one places on it.

[Saitch]

Shirley that would follow exactly the same 100% is still 100% regardless of what other values one places on it.

SO, if I make something for $x and sell it for $x+60% of x and then find a way to make the same thing at half the cost, but sell it for the original, 60% mark-up, then that would be 120% profit, wouldn't it? [smilebigeye]

[POD]

Shirley that would follow exactly the same 100% is still 100% regardless of what other values one places on it.

Yep 100% is definitely 100%- but it is not necessarily the highest possible %. 75 apples is 150% of 50 apples. a poor example. Forcing 1.5 litres of air into a cylinder of 1 litre capacity would make it 150% charged.

[Tombie]

Yep 100% is definitely 100%- but it is not necessarily the highest possible %. 75 apples is 150% of 50 apples. a poor example. Forcing 1.5 litres of air into a cylinder of 1 litre capacity would make it 150% charged.

Not quite. It would be 50% overcharged.

Using percentage greater than 100% to represent a value is known as an ‘improper percentage’.

[POD]

Not quite. It would be 50% overcharged.

Using percentage greater than 100% to represent a value is known as an ‘improper percentage’.

This guy reckons it depends on context

More Than 100 Percent? – The Math Doctors (https://www.themathdoctors.org/more-than-100-percent/)

But I don't know if he is woke or not.

[4bee]

SO, if I make something for $x and sell it for $x+60% of x and then find a way to make the same thing at half the cost, but sell it for the original, 60% mark-up, then that would be 120% profit, wouldn't it? [smilebigeye]

Only in your mind it would, but in practice maybe not. What about the deduction for materials & other overheads unless one is fiddlin' the books as it were. Not that you would of course. [bighmmm]

Anyway, two more words that ease my bladder are "WOW"! & "AMAZING in every conversation on TV.

Just waiting for Baaa, as in sheep, to enter conversations.

[4bee]

Yep 100% is definitely 100%- but it is not necessarily the highest possible %. 75 apples is 150% of 50 apples. a poor example. Forcing 1.5 litres of air into a cylinder of 1 litre capacity would make it 150% charged.

And possibly dangerous depending on the vessel imho.

[DiscoMick]

I 'woke' up this morning, so that's a good thing.
There is no such word as 'terrains', as appears regularly in motoring mags.
The word 'terrain' is uncountable, so it covers both singular and plural.
I laughed about the 'take a seat' post above, as I saw a friend do the same thing recently.

[Saitch]

Pollies and media using "The Current Terms of The Time".

Remember a few years ago, the use of "Road Map", for just about any government plan. Then there's "Reiterate", "Let me just say", "Whistleblower" etc., ad nauseum.

Perhaps I should be on 'Grumpy Old Men', instead?

[BradC]

"Rain bomb". Aaaaaarrgghhhhhhhh!

[4bee]

"Rain bomb". Aaaaaarrgghhhhhhhh!



"Road Map",


:wallbash::wallbash::Rolling:



Yep both are really, really crap I'd agree but what about "Going Forward"?
:Rolling:

[ramblingboy42]

rain bomb goes with wild fires

[jonesfam]

I HATE Americanisms!
Guy, Gal, Whoo, most cooperate speak & most idioms from TV or Movies.
I, as much as possible, say Blokes, Folks etc. Instead of going forward try Next Year or Month or whatever.
One I hate is "What learnings did we get from this?" What is wrong with "What did we learn from this?" or "Lesson Learnt!"
After reading 1984 I thought the English language was supposed to get less complicated, not likely!
Jonesfam
PS One of my kids called the Boot the Trunk the other day, I'm sure the blood will dry!

[BradC]

I HATE Americanisms!
....
PS One of my kids called the Boot the Trunk the other day, I'm sure the blood will dry!

Quick, blood is much easier to get off while it's still wet.

The one Americanism that drives me mental is "top off", as in "I'm just going to top off the coolant". I don't know why, but it's like fingernails down the blackboard.

[4bee]

I HATE Americanisms!
Guy, Gal, Whoo, most cooperate speak & most idioms from TV or Movies.
I, as much as possible, say Blokes, Folks etc. Instead of going forward try Next Year or Month or whatever.
One I hate is "What learnings did we get from this?" What is wrong with "What did we learn from this?" or "Lesson Learnt!"
After reading 1984 I thought the English language was supposed to get less complicated, not likely!
Jonesfam
PS One of my kids called the Boot the Trunk the other day, I'm sure the blood will dry!


I suppose that would depend whether you hit him/her with the shovel's flat side or edge & how long you left them in the Trunk. Flat is better as it only stuns them.:Rolling:

[Saitch]

I HATE Americanisms!


PS One of my kids called the Boot the Trunk the other day, I'm sure the blood will dry!

I hope you didn't tell his Mom!

[RANDLOVER]

I hope you didn't tell his Mom!

Or should that be Ma?

[4bee]

Or should that be Ma?


Mom is the one who makes the Cookies.

[jonesfam]

He's up in Doomadgee with me, what Mum doesn't know wont stress her.
I asked him to get something out of the Boot, he came back & said he couldn't open the Trunk.
This is an aboriginal kid, must get to much screen time!
Didn't really hit him, thought about it though.:firedevil:

Also, Oh My God! Overused & inane.
Just ****ing swear, far more expressive.
Jonesfam

[4bee]

He's up in Doomadgee with me, what Mum doesn't know wont stress her.
I asked him to get something out of the Boot, he came back & said he couldn't open the Trunk.
This is an aboriginal kid, must get to much screen time!
Didn't really hit him, thought about it though.:firedevil:

Also, Oh My God! Overused & inane.
Just ****ing swear, far more expressive.
Jonesfam



See, one cannot say **** without one's gob having a mouthful of ******************* & ************ is not a conversational piece that is easily understood.

[350RRC]

.................


Just ****ing swear, far more expressive.
Jonesfam

I do 'sometimes' swear as an emphasis when trying to get a point across to people who want to learn from me................. native grassland restoration for example.

The swearing generally denotes something I've struggled with and overcome and want to share the remedy.

The swearing can also be my name for a weed like 'the fluffy ****' coz I'd rather deal with it than find out what it's really called.

I do sometimes use 'language' at meetings I chair or attend on another committee and I really don't care what anyone thinks. I can't stand bull....

DL

[4bee]

[QUOTE=350RRC;3167018]I do 'sometimes' swear as an emphasis when trying to get a point across to people who want to learn from me................. native grassland restoration for example.

The swearing generally denotes something I've struggled with and overcome and want to share the remedy.

The swearing can also be my name for a weed like 'the fluffy ****' coz I'd rather deal with it than find out what it's really called.

I do sometimes use 'language' at meetings I chair or attend on another committee and I really don't care what anyone thinks. I can't stand bull....



[QUOTE]And lately ventilate instead of vent, most recently during the Lehrmann trial when Higgins said she called her boyfriend to "ventilate"

That would depend if she came up for air I suspect.

[350RRC]

....................


[QUOTE]And lately ventilate instead of vent, most recently during the Lehrmann trial when Higgins said she called her boyfriend to "ventilate"

That would depend if she came up for air I suspect.

Bit late for you to be wide awoke?

DL

[4bee]

[QUOTE=4bee;3167023]....................




Bit late for you to be wide awoke?

DL


I saw what you did there.

Better late than never, old bean.

[Saitch]

Aaaargh! Heard a young, local girl use "Gotten" in a sentence. :bat:

Also, having never taken much notice, I realised yesterday that the TV show 'Australia's Got Talent' is sooo grammatically incorrect.:rulez:

[ramblingboy42]

gotten is a word....past participle of get[bigwhistle]

[Saitch]

gotten is a word....past participle of get[bigwhistle]

In the US of A, perhaps.[bigsad]

[DoubleChevron]

Apparently I'm embarrassing ... My eldest has been looking at universities .... the "woke" bull**** you see there is amazing. Through the accommodation there was labels hanging on the doors with there "preferred pronoun". They wouldn't give me a pen to scribble out all the nonsense ones leaving "He/She/Moron" there as a replacement for made up ones.

Surely all the tradies/apprentices aren't going on with the insane "woke" bull**** the "I'm special types" are demanding very vocally. As they are actually out there in the real world trying to make a living.

The biggest problem is these educated numpties then end up in industry. I've flatly refused to do a "training" course at work in about 5 years. I was so utterly disgusted at the bull**** HR sent through as a training courses ... I've just sent every "online training" course I've been sent straight into the email bin .... along with all the reminders.

Did you know if I have some patronising asshole treating me like a 3 year old telling me what being sexist ... or racist ... or whatever there latest fluffy topic is in the workplace. Being forced to watch a video of behavior then answering the dumbest questions I have ever seen will "train" me out of this behavior [bighmmm][bighmmm]

The anti bullying ones are just lunacy.... utter lunacy. "Is this being bullied, or being asked to do something" ..... FFS. I know what bullying is ... And anyone thats known me for more than 5 minutes will know its not going work as I'm not the "submissive" type (or so I've heard) :bat:. I've even told the teachers at my kids school, if anyone bullies my kids, there dad says to punch them. If anyone is threatening you, ignore the woke bull****. A bully immediately leaves a person alone if they know they'll immediately get a fist in the face for there efforts [bigwhistle] [bigwhistle] The look on teachers faces is priceless when I tell them this. Strangely enough none of my kids have been bullied yet (two girls and one boy).

The last time my workplace sent out a job vacancy I was included on the 'CC list as they were hoping existing employees would forward it out as well. Well I forwarded it .... right ot my managers saying its the most ridiculous bull**** document I've ever seen. What is the job actually for? Its all fluffy bull****, WTF is emotional intelligence ?? I would NEVER go for a job at a company that would send out a job statement such as this.

They replied saying "we can't do anything about it, that is the new HR template for jobs"

Just nuts.

[4bee]

Apparently I'm embarrassing ... My eldest has been looking at universities .... the "woke" bull**** you see there is amazing. Through the accommodation there was labels hanging on the doors with there "preferred pronoun". They wouldn't give me a pen to scribble out all the nonsense ones leaving "He/She/Moron" there as a replacement for made up ones.

Surely all the tradies/apprentices aren't going on with the insane "woke" bull**** the "I'm special types" are demanding very vocally. As they are actually out there in the real world trying to make a living.

The biggest problem is these educated numpties then end up in industry. I've flatly refused to do a "training" course at work in about 5 years. I was so utterly disgusted at the bull**** HR sent through as a training courses ... I've just sent every "online training" course I've been sent straight into the email bin .... along with all the reminders.

Did you know if I have some patronising asshole treating me like a 3 year old telling me what being sexist ... or racist ... or whatever there latest fluffy topic is in the workplace. Being forced to watch a video of behavior then answering the dumbest questions I have ever seen will "train" me out of this behavior [bighmmm][bighmmm]

The anti bullying ones are just lunacy.... utter lunacy. "Is this being bullied, or being asked to do something" ..... FFS. I know what bullying is ... And anyone thats known me for more than 5 minutes will know its not going work as I'm not the "submissive" type (or so I've heard) :bat:. I've even told the teachers at my kids school, if anyone bullies my kids, there dad says to punch them. If anyone is threatening you, ignore the woke bull****. A bully immediately leaves a person alone if they know they'll immediately get a fist in the face for there efforts [bigwhistle] [bigwhistle] The look on teachers faces is priceless when I tell them this. Strangely enough none of my kids have been bullied yet (two girls and one boy).

The last time my workplace sent out a job vacancy I was included on the 'CC list as they were hoping existing employees would forward it out as well. Well I forwarded it .... right ot my managers saying its the most ridiculous bull**** document I've ever seen. What is the job actually for? Its all fluffy bull****, WTF is emotional intelligence ?? I would NEVER go for a job at a company that would send out a job statement such as this.

They replied saying "we can't do anything about it, that is the new HR template for jobs"

Just nuts.




Great attitude. :rulez:[bigrolf] :clap2::BigThumb:


On or off Topic but who gives a Flying .

The term "Tradie" seems to be splashed around ad nauseum these days It appears to be used in a bit of a derogatory sense mostly except when said "Tradie" rescues a kid from a hot parked car et al & then he is a hero.

In my former life I was a Tradesman or Trades person & was very proud to be so, as were many here after all the years of training & work experience with tools.

I groan when I hear "Tradie" being used & it seems like it has become the norm for a "Cowboy" Tradesman.

The person who initiated this word needs a solid kick in the ballcocks. Thrice. [bigsad]

[Saitch]

Great attitude. :rulez:[bigrolf] :clap2::BigThumb:


On or off Topic but who gives a Flying .

The term "Tradie" seems to be splashed around ad nauseum these days It appears to be used in a bit of a derogatory sense mostly except when said "Tradie" rescues a kid from a hot parked car et al & then he is a hero.

In my former life I was a Tradesman or Trades person & was very proud to be so, as were many here after all the years of training & work experience with tools.

I groan when I hear "Tradie" being used & it seems like it has become the norm for a "Cowboy" Tradesman.

The person who initiated this word needs a solid kick in the ballcocks. Thrice. [bigsad]

How do you feel about the use of the terms 'Chippy', 'Bricky' and the like?

[4bee]

How do you feel about the use of the terms 'Chippy', 'Bricky' and the like?


At least they recognise a professionally earnt Trade as do Sparky, Plumber & Fridgy etc.

[LRJim]

How do you feel about the use of the terms 'Chippy', 'Bricky' and the like?Hate being called a chippy

[BMKal]

Great attitude. :rulez:[bigrolf] :clap2::BigThumb:


On or off Topic but who gives a Flying .

The term "Tradie" seems to be splashed around ad nauseum these days It appears to be used in a bit of a derogatory sense mostly except when said "Tradie" rescues a kid from a hot parked car et al & then he is a hero.

In my former life I was a Tradesman or Trades person & was very proud to be so, as were many here after all the years of training & work experience with tools.

I groan when I hear "Tradie" being used & it seems like it has become the norm for a "Cowboy" Tradesman.

The person who initiated this word needs a solid kick in the ballcocks. Thrice. [bigsad]

To me, the term "Tradie" has always stood for someone who has worked hard to complete an apprenticeship in his/her chosen trade (as opposed to some "wannabe" who really hasn't got a clue) - and was something that I always encouraged my son to aspire to be. He succeeded, and his chosen trade of Diesel Mechanic now sees him as a maintenance manager at a gold mine in Victoria.

I have never heard the term "Tradie" used in a derogatory manner and if I did, I would assume that the person making the comment is probably a legend in his/her own lunchbox who more than likely has never achieved anything meaningful with his/her life - and would tell them so.

I am am engineer (metallurgist) and while I have a university degree, most of what I have learned in life on how things actually work and how to correctly build / repair / operate the plant I deal with - I have learned from "Tradies".

[oldie]

My bad for wasting my time reading this thread. When I first heard bad in this context I had to ask for the sentence to be explained.

Oldie

[V8Ian]

As an indentured tradesman, I disapprove of the current use of the term.
When I did my time, tradie refered to the men (I wasn't aware of any indentured females) who had completed four (five for the older men) years of theoretical and practical learning in their chosen trade. See the link?
Later, the term seemed to be applied to anyone involved in the building industry, be they tradesmen or skilled workers such as concreters or plasterers.
Yet later, the term was used to describe any blue collar workers.
This bastardisation of the collective noun was brought about by the pig ignorance of journalists in particular and the media in general.

[Saitch]

Hate being called a chippy

It's a term that's been used for hundreds of years (not an Oz slang). I think it originated in the UK, from something along the lines of: "You can tell the quality of a carpenter by his chips".

[Johnno1969]

It's a term that's been used for hundreds of years (not an Oz slang). I think it originated in the UK, from something along the lines of: "You can tell the quality of a carpenter by his chips".

Isn't "chippy" also a term for a fish and chip shop? Maybe in England..? I remember Scots relatives of mine also using the term "chipper" when we went to get our haggis and chips.

[BreakingBad]

Apparently I'm embarrassing ... My eldest has been looking at universities .... the "woke" bull**** you see there is amazing. Through the accommodation there was labels hanging on the doors with there "preferred pronoun". They wouldn't give me a pen to scribble out all the nonsense ones leaving "He/She/Moron" there as a replacement for made up ones."
.



Could always use the following as your preferred pronoun


Me, Myself and I

[LRJim]

It's a term that's been used for hundreds of years (not an Oz slang). I think it originated in the UK, from something along the lines of: "You can tell the quality of a carpenter by his chips".It's not so much the term chippy I dislike, it's kind of like the dislike towards tradesmen. A chippy is far from a carpenter these days IMHO

[DiscoMick]

'I had gotten hungry (an action in the past, before another action in the past) so I ate lunch.'
But it's much simpler to just say, 'I was hungry, so I ate lunch.'
In the US of A, perhaps.[bigsad]

[discorevy]

'I had gotten hungry (an action in the past, before another action in the past) so I ate lunch.'
But it's much simpler to just say, 'I was hungry, so I ate lunch.'

As Saitch has pointed out, "gotten" is a North American term, but has more recently, been used by those who learn grammar from social media sites.

[4bee]

It's a term that's been used for hundreds of years (not an Oz slang). I think it originated in the UK, from something along the lines of: "You can tell the quality of a carpenter by his chips".


Not really. If the chip shop has rcd a crappy bag of spuds & said Carpenter has purchased same & they were made into chips I'm afraid he is stuck with them good or bad. [bighmmm]

I dwell too long on this subject.:oops2::Rolling:

[4bee]

Isn't "chippy" also a term for a fish and chip shop? Maybe in England..? I remember Scots relatives of mine also using the term "chipper" when we went to get our haggis and chips.

Don't forget the "Deep Fried Meat Pies". [bighmmm]

[ramblingboy42]

the use of the word tradie has become derogatory these days.....ask any young woman....ask anyone on the roads going to work in the morning....ask the 4wd dealers....ask the take away food cafes.... theres more.....

I was a tradesman for 45 yrs but was never a tradie.

do you wear a flouro vest over a flanno hanging loose over a pair of stubbies and a pair of unlaced safety boots with heavy m/t tread?

[DiscoMick]

4WD dealers are doing very well out of tradies.