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LandyAndy
30th July 2006, 01:21 PM
Hi Guys
Looking at building an off-road trailer.
It will be used for firewood and my lawnmowing jobs and also in the future a camper trailer as well.
Looking at going for a 2t axle/springs (mainly for the firewood),electric brakes and a tregg type hitch.I was going to make it tipping like my mates but I dont think its that important and would even weaken the chassis design.We have only used it to tip a wood order once as we normally stack the order anyway.It would also prevent fitting fuel and water tanks underneath.
Anybody know of any decent plans I can buy/copy or steal.Ive done a heap of googling but only can really come up with some basic plans on Ebay.
I have found a tutorial on a Jeep site of a trailer made by a member,good for a few measurements but not what Im chasing.
Andrew

p38arover
21st August 2006, 01:40 AM
I bought some trailer plans from the USA. I wonder where they are. Maybe I can make copies. They'd give you some ideas.

BTW, did you look here: http://www.trailerplans.org/index.htm and these sample plans:

http://www.trailerplans.org/sample_plan.htm (a tipper)

or this one http://www.trailerplans.org/sample_plan2.htm

Ron

sschmez
21st August 2006, 10:27 AM
here's some more stuff to keep in mind during the design stages

http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/publications/pdf/roads_vsb_01.pdf

Stevo

VladTepes
24th August 2006, 01:47 AM
any progress ?

Tank
6th September 2006, 03:08 PM
Hi Guys
Looking at building an off-road trailer.
It will be used for firewood and my lawnmowing jobs and also in the future a camper trailer as well.
Looking at going for a 2t axle/springs (mainly for the firewood),electric brakes and a tregg type hitch.I was going to make it tipping like my mates but I dont think its that important and would even weaken the chassis design.We have only used it to tip a wood order once as we normally stack the order anyway.It would also prevent fitting fuel and water tanks underneath.
Anybody know of any decent plans I can buy/copy or steal.Ive done a heap of googling but only can really come up with some basic plans on Ebay.
I have found a tutorial on a Jeep site of a trailer made by a member,good for a few measurements but not what Im chasing.
Andrew

Have a gander an Ex-Army trailer, so simple to build and tough as nails, single tube drawbar, means you can jackknife traier withuot squashing your t/lights on an angled drawbar, could probably pick one up for less that the cost of building one, Regards Frank

p38arover
6th September 2006, 04:05 PM
I bought some trailer plans from the USA. I wonder where they are.

I found 'em!

Ron

walker
6th September 2006, 06:04 PM
Have a gander an Ex-Army trailer, so simple to build and tough as nails, single tube drawbar, means you can jackknife traier withuot squashing your t/lights on an angled drawbar, could probably pick one up for less that the cost of building one, Regards Frank

Are there any downsides to using a single tube drawbar? Obviously the tube would be heavier than a V drawbar but I wondered if it didn't tow as well or something???

Tank
6th September 2006, 09:47 PM
Are there any downsides to using a single tube drawbar? Obviously the tube would be heavier than a V drawbar but I wondered if it didn't tow as well or something???

If you look at the construction, ie. one 6" tube from front to rear (with tow hitch on rear of pipe as well) with 4 crossmembers with 6" hole in centre slid on, one each for front and rear of springs and one each end of the tray, the KISS principle, I just towed mine at around 110klm/h for a couple of hours and it towed pefectly, no wandering even with a Pintle and Hook tow hitch, changing over to a Treg Hitch at the moment, there's some pics of one here somewhere with a 130 tub, have a look, Regards Frank.

walker
6th September 2006, 10:49 PM
Any links to the pics???

I am about to start building my trailer next week. It will basically be a 6'x4' box trailer with higher than normal side and a hinged top. It will then have a frame mounted above the top of the trailer (kinda like a packrack) on which the rooftop tent will go. I plan to be able to lift up the frame with the tent so when stopped it will be just over 6' off the ground, this will allow me to use the annexe which comes with the roof top tent. I will have 2 slide out sections at the rear which will have a cook top on one and bench/sink on the other. I will mount a water tank undernieth.

Hopefully that will all be simple enough to build but still give me everything I need.

I am going to build the trailer myself but will by the axle/hub/brake and spring assemble already built. One of dad's mates is the managing director at Alco in Melbourne so he is going to design and supply the axle/spring assembly. From his recommendations it will be leaf springs with shocks. He believes leaf is better for a touring/offroad trailer and that soem manufacturers only use independent coil because that is what the customer expects. They will be light, long springs designed specifically for the weight. I am hoping the entire trailer fully loaded will be around 500kg.

Utemad
6th September 2006, 10:59 PM
He believes leaf is better for a touring/offroad trailer and that soem manufacturers only use independent coil because that is what the customer expects.

I saw some camper trailers at the Muster with independent leaf springs. I'd never seen them before.

walker
6th September 2006, 11:19 PM
Something like this.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

incisor
7th September 2006, 06:49 AM
looks like the cruisemaster setup i have under my camper trailer...

great setup.....

VladTepes
7th September 2006, 08:55 AM
Inc what brand is yours again ?

Tank
7th September 2006, 07:05 PM
Something like this.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
It would be much heavier than a standard tube axle, even probably more than a solid tube, there are disadvantages to Independent suspension. When an independently sprung wheel rolls over a high point (e.g.) a rock, the centre of the trailer moves closer to the ground, with a live type suspension (beam axle & 2 springs) the opposite occurs, that why non independent Discos will go anywhere your game to go, I believe in the KISS theory, you're not likely to find parts for an independent suspension outside of the city limits, Regards Frank.

Disco_owner
7th July 2008, 12:21 PM
After a Few Late inspirational threads on AULRO with members building their own trailers , I've also decided to jump on the band wagon and build my own off-road trailer , I'd like know if anyone here has any plans similar to an offroad trailer Andy built , my primary reason is also for carrying Firewood as mate has a big property down at Robertson and has offered me free firewood ??:o


thanks in advance



P.S is it worth my while to build my own Trailer or buy a trailer ?

philco
13th July 2008, 12:28 AM
mate i am looking to turn my 130 crew cab tub into a trailer and have seen these axles, i heard they never have problems with them and can do electric brakes also, check out their website
AL-KO Kober - full line axle and brake manufacturer (http://www.al-kousa.com)
not sure on prices but they are independent so should be good.

eb220
10th January 2009, 08:32 PM
Guys,
Here is a description of my camping trailer (pics soon).

Holden Rodeo 4x4 chassis, cut adjacent the pedals, cut and welded into an A frame with a T setup running forward to the towhitch. Rodeo leaf springs and soft shocks.
AU ute tub, checker plated front end,
HD axle, with 6 stud rims.

I'm going to change the hubs to Range Rover stud pattern, but i do not know anyone who makes them. Can anyone help?

I was thinking of trying using some front hub assy's fitted with bearings to suit the stubs on the trailer.

Cheers

Chris

hook
10th January 2009, 09:24 PM
Guys,

I'm going to change the hubs to Range Rover stud pattern, but i do not know anyone who makes them. Can anyone help?
Cheers

Chris

http://www.alko.com.au/vehicle/hubs_bearings/trailerhubs.html

Any auto shop can set them in.
Just the studs are 9/16 (LC) not Rover studs.
I changed mine over to Rover studs, but they are shorter.
Now found longer studs from the UK for next time.
You just need to know if your trailer axle uses Holden or Ford bearings.

pop058
10th January 2009, 09:36 PM
AL-KO Australia : Vehicle Technology : Products (http://www.alko.com.au/vehicle/hubs_bearings/trailerhubs.html)

Any auto shop can set them in.
Just the studs are 9/16 (LC) not Rover studs.
I changed mine over to Rover studs, but they are shorter.
Now found longer studs from the UK for next time.
You just need to know if your trailer axle uses Holden or Ford bearings.

The Ford bearings (sometimes called Slimlines) can carry heaps more weight. Trailers upto 2 tonne GVM can use holden bearings, but over that you need the bigger bearings.