Where do birds go to die

[Rob3]

I have often wondered.

[1950landy]

I don't know but I wish the Swallows that come back every year & nesting in my garage & pooing on my S1 would go there. I keep knocking there nest down as soon as I see them building it, have a couple of plastic owls hanging in the garage& tried Lazer beams but still they keep coming back. I don't want to harm them just want them to leave.[bighmmm]

[350RRC]

I have often wondered.

I've heard they fall off the perch.

(was tired when I wrote that............... email login issues still unresolved.................hours on the phone talking to consultants and listening to their roosters crowing in the background [bighmmm])

DL

[V8Ian]

https://youtu.be/vZw35VUBdzo

[trout1105]

I have often wondered.

KFC [biggrin]

[LRJim]

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[p38arover]

I've heard they fall of the perch.

DL

Off! :)

[scottvdw]

Probably to the same place that mozzies go to during the day and that flies go at night........

Scott

[RANDLOVER]

Not sure about birds, but I did once have a green tree frog that came in the house to die, he sat on top of my old plasma TV for a few days and dried out and died or vice versa.

[OldGuy]

Off! :)

350 did say he was tired 🛌

[AK83]

... anywhere Musk becomes the CEO of 'free speech'

[biggrin]

[Homestar]

Was camping last year by the river and a Corella fell out of the sky next to us dead as a Dodo - I asked the Caravan Park Manager about it and he said it happens all the time and told me to pop it in the bin…

[scarry]

Had to pop a few Bush Turkeys in the bin here lately,that is after the dog has finished with them[bighmmm]

[Ferret]

Same place as the elephants go to die. I saw it in a documentary about Tarzan.

[Tote]

On a hot and damp summer afternoon just after a thunderstorm I was coming into Narromine near the turnoff to the silos and the usual flock of galahs were flying around disturbed by the traffic after feeding on spilled grain. With the humidity and the recent rain when the flock flew between the high tension distribution lines the inevitable happened, with a blue flash about 6 birds were instantly fried and fell from the sky......

Regards,
Tote

[Saitch]

On a hot and damp summer afternoon just after a thunderstorm I was coming into Narromine near the turnoff to the silos and the usual flock of galahs were flying around disturbed by the traffic after feeding on spilled grain. With the humidity and the recent rain when the flock flew between the high tension distribution lines the inevitable happened, with a blue flash about 6 birds were instantly fried and fell from the sky......

Regards,
Tote

Flamin' galahs!

[Tombie]

KFC [biggrin]

No.. Thats Krispy Fried Cat

[jon3950]

Had to pop a few Bush Turkeys in the bin here lately,that is after the dog has finished with them[bighmmm]

Can I borrow your dog?

[V8Ian]

Can I borrow your dog?
Be aware, he only flies Business Class.

[Saitch]

Can I borrow your dog?

'Henry' is available for an exorbitant fee, but I can't guarantee his work!

181602

[ramblingboy42]

turkey definitely looks like it's trying to sneak past......

[BreakingBad]

I don't know but I wish the Swallows that come back every year & nesting in my garage & pooing on my S1 would go there. I keep knocking there nest down as soon as I see them building it, have a couple of plastic owls hanging in the garage& tried Lazer beams but still they keep coming back. I don't want to harm them just want them to leave.[bighmmm]


My uncle had similar issues until he inadvertently left the stick to adjust the outdoor blinds perched up high. He figured the small shape of the hook must look like a predator so he decided to leave it perched high up in the upper nook of the A frame and since then the birds have not come back.

Something like this. I think his is brass rather than plastic.

181631

[1950landy]

My uncle had similar issues until he inadvertently left the stick to adjust the outdoor blinds perched up high. He figured the small shape of the hook must look like a predator so he decided to leave it perched high up in the upper nook of the A frame and since then the birds have not come back.

Something like this. I think his is brass rather than plastic.

181631

I have one of these for our pull downs blinds in our pergola, will give it a go.

[RobMichelle]

Il be keen to know if this works, if so down to hardware store to grab one and hang in the carport

[DiscoMick]

I was playing tennis years ago when a seagull fell out of the sky and landed dead on the court near me. Gave me quite a fright.

[Saitch]

I was playing tennis years ago when a seagull fell out of the sky and landed dead on the court near me. Gave me quite a fright.

Had you played a chip shot?

[DiscoMick]

No, don't think I've ever managed a birdie, but I was trying to serve an ace.
Had you played a chip shot?

[RHS58]

No, don't think I've ever managed a birdie, but I was trying to serve an ace.

As a golfer I recently managed to hit a birdie. On closer inspection, it was a duck.

[scarry]

As a golfer I recently managed to hit a birdie. On closer inspection, it was a duck.

Looking closely at the many ducks on the local golf course,some are missing one foot,just have a stub for a leg with the foot missing.

[Saitch]

As a golfer I recently managed to hit a birdie. On closer inspection, it was a duck.

I've seen quite a few ducks on various cricket fields, too.

Never with one leg though, or 'No balls', now I think of it.

[350RRC]

Looking closely at the many ducks on the local golf course,some are missing one foot,just have a stub for a leg with the foot missing.

Common with seagulls.

Gulls.....comes from sitting and feeding on the surface of the ocean from the detritus of a 'fish frenzy'..........collateral damage.

Saw a beauty about three months ago off Torquay............ plankton on the sounder, bait fish aplenty, dolphins and porpoise aplenty, big SBF aplenty and about half a dozen small humpbacks in the mix.

Went on for about a week while I was doing some cray data recording.

Doesn't appear to happen to albatross coz they prefer solitary dead floating cuttlefish.

cheers, DL

[scarry]

Common with seagulls.

Gulls.....comes from sitting and feeding on the surface of the ocean from the detritus of a 'fish frenzy'..........collateral damage.

Saw a beauty about three months ago off Torquay............ plankton on the sounder, bait fish aplenty, dolphins and porpoise aplenty, big SBF aplenty and about half a dozen small humpbacks in the mix.

Went on for about a week while I was doing some cray data recording.

Doesn't appear to happen to albatross coz they prefer solitary dead floating cuttlefish.

cheers, DL

The swans in the botanical gardens in Brisbane often have no feet,they recon hungry eels are the culprits.

One wouldn’t want to go skinny dipping:Rolling:

[V8Ian]

Too late. [bigsad]

[350RRC]

The swans in the botanical gardens in Brisbane often have no feet,they recon hungry eels are the culprits.

One wouldn’t want to go skinny dipping:Rolling:

I've done a fair bit of freshwater fish work (ongoing) for a few companies and there's no way I'd go skinny dipping after seeing, measuring, weighing and recording some of the fish caught.

Some vermin specimens had to be cut into thirds to be weighed.

Freshwater crays in Vic shallow streams grow to a good size and are ruthless......... get a claw on a finger and it's down to the bone in no time.

In hindsight.......... swimming neckid off the yacht in the Whitsundays was really stupid, especially at night and that happened on many trips.

Then there's the 'innocent' Sunday arvo lone fishing trip a guy I know of had on the Glenelg, in a tinny, that ended up killing him, courtesy of a carp.

cheers, DL

[austastar]

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[350RRC]

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Agree with the question marks....... it is a seriously weird image, racist overtones, etc.

DL

[V8Ian]

Racist overtones? Really? It's a cartoon involving a young boy. That boy has to be some race. Would it be racist if he was white, or Asian?

[Saitch]

Racist overtones? Really? It's a cartoon involving a young boy. That boy has to be some race. Would it be racist if he was white, or Asian?

Oh, I thought it was because they look like Canadian Geese? Although, it's a bit difficult to tell, as the cartoon is a ' 181797 and White' one.

[austastar]

Hi,
Totally not racial. It was a result of googling "image:boy peeing through hole in fence".
I was looking for an image from a book I remember from years ago which was a similar theme.
This one, to me, illustrated the risk previously mentioned in a post, of exposing dangling bits to bitey critters, either on land or water.
Cheers

[BradC]

It was a result of googling "image:boy peeing through hole in fence".

Reminds me of a question I got from Mr 8 year old recently. "Dad, if electricity and water don't mix, what happens if you pee on an electric fence?". I suggested next time we were in the vicinity of one he conduct a controlled scientific experiment and let me know the outcome.

[Tote]

Reminds me of a question I got from Mr 8 year old recently. "Dad, if electricity and water don't mix, what happens if you pee on an electric fence?". I suggested next time we were in the vicinity of one he conduct a controlled scientific experiment and let me know the outcome.

I believe that the result of that experiment depends on the distance between the origin of the stream of liquid and the electric fence. I have seen people try it on a live fence with no result but I also had a year 8 science teacher who had a very unpleasant experience that he related to the class after arriving home late one evening and forgetting about the live wire. As the stream of fluid gets longer there are sufficient air gaps to prevent conductivity. (this was the 1970's so he had probably been having a few roadies after work [biggrin])

Regards,
Tote

[350RRC]

I believe that the result of that experiment depends on the distance between the origin of the stream of liquid and the electric fence. I have seen people try it on a live fence with no result but I also had a year 8 science teacher who had a very unpleasant experience that he related to the class after arriving home late one evening and forgetting about the live wire. As the stream of fluid gets longer there are sufficient air gaps to prevent conductivity. (this was the 1970's so he had probably been having a few roadies after work [biggrin])

Regards,
Tote

The current in an electric fence is a spike, like a click.

Maybe the frequency of the click can be changed.......dunno.

What I do know is that the strength of the click can be and the old school farmers around here have it ramped up a bit.

Have had plenty of experience with getting a (no biggy) belt from electric fencing all over Vic, doing fish surveys, but around here........****.

I sometimes do 'landscape remediation' that involves rabbits and their breathtaking demise.

Copped a mega belt crossing a fence 6 months ago..............really surprised me. Property owner had noticed the next door farmer's zeal as well.

Last week, whilst pursuing this particular endeavour, my capped head touched the wire just as the pulse went through.........things went black for a couple of seconds and **** it hurt.

I have to wear a cap coz my GP reckons I'm a cranial melanoma waiting to happen. Unfortunately vision upwards is restricted.

In other words.............**** on the fence all you like, you're only going to get belted when the pulse goes through, like a click on yer *****. [bigwhistle]

cheers, DL

[RANDLOVER]

The current in an electric fence is a spike, like a click.......
cheers, DL

Mythbusters busted this in S1 Ep 6 in the case of the constant 650 volts 3rd rail train lines the have in the US.

MythBusters (TV Series 2003–2018) - IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383126/'ref_=tt_ov_inf)

[austastar]

Hi,
Called out to a pole fire years ago.
Up a dirt road with restricted access, so took the Toyota.
Three wires on the crosstree, one arcing to the wood, probably 11kV, not sure.
The wood was burning.
How to put it out?
Considered a rain stream of droplets directed while standing on the tanker for insulation from earth.
But as it was still crackling with Voltage to earth the problem would not go away with cooling and smothering.
Decided the fire was beyond our skills and stood by to put out any grass fire and sent crew down the road to warn others not to go near or under the powerlines.
The line dropped to ground, an almighty bang of something tripping and a standing wave went up and down the wires along the road.
Power was out to the suburb for an hour or so till the linesman crew got it fixed.
They said it was wise not to tackle the fire, even with falling droplets.
Cheers

[scarry]

I cant believe how good a dogs memory is when it comes to those electric fences.
Ours got a good kick from one well over 5 yrs ago.
It was that white tape.

Anyway,we set one up around the sons chook pen,with white tape,last week,and she wouldnt go within about 4M of it,so we didnt have to bother turning it on.
His two dogs were the same,wont go anywhere near it,although they have both recently had a kick from another one along the boundary fence.

Years ago the kids used to touch them with a blade of green grass,and get a punch,so we knew it was working.

Working with power most days,there is no way i would do that or go anywhere near one.[bighmmm]

[RANDLOVER]

Hi,
......The line dropped to ground, an almighty bang of something tripping and a standing wave went up and down the wires along the road.
Power was out to the suburb for an hour or so till the linesman crew got it fixed.
They said it was wise not to tackle the fire, even with falling droplets.
Cheers

Something to watch out for is a lot of overheads have an "auto reclose" function, so it will trip, wait a few seconds and then close the switch again, to avoid nuisance tripping from lightning, and blow a bat, bird (back on topic), possum, etc. off the line, if that is not successful it locks out.

[Tins]

I cant believe how good a dogs memory is when it comes to those electric fences.
Ours got a good kick from one well over 5 yrs ago.
It was that white tape.

Anyway,we set one up around the sons chook pen,with white tape,last week,and she wouldnt go within about 4M of it,so we didnt have to bother turning it on.
His two dogs were the same,wont go anywhere near it,although they have both recently had a kick from another one along the boundary fence.

Years ago the kids used to touch them with a blade of green grass,and get a punch,so we knew it was working.

Working with power most days,there is no way i would do that or go anywhere near one.[bighmmm]

With apologies to the late Murray Ball:

181854

[austastar]

Hi,
Saw a similar scene with Wal & Dog.
Wal steps over fence in shorts and Wellies.
Just enough clearance, BUT boots are stuck in sinking mud.
Wal's face is of pure terror.
Dog looks whimsical and thought bubble says "What would Lassie do?
Cheers

[Tins]

Hi,
Saw a similar scene with Wal & Dog.
Wal steps over fence in shorts and Wellies.
Just enough clearance, BUT boots are stuck in sinking mud.
Wal's face is of pure terror.
Dog looks whimsical and thought bubble says "What would Lassie do?
Cheers

I nearly used that one.

There's another that I can't find. Wal makes the Dog touch the fence to see if it's "live".
Dog reluctantly touches fence with one paw.
Nothing happens, so Wal assumes it's off and grabs hold.
Wal is drawn obviously getting shocked.
Dog's bubble says "I'd take another thousand volts any day to see that again"

I sometimes think that Wal is NZ's answer to Wile E Coyote.

[RANDLOVER]

Getting back to the OP, if it is a lace necked/ spotted dove it might go into another one's stomach when it dies, as I noticed one hanging around in my garden the last few days and when I put the cat's left over mince and crunchies out for the birds, normally crows, magpies, and plovers, the pigeon ate it instead, something akin to cannibalism I thought. Although Wikipedia says they have been known to eat termites...Spotted dove - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotted_dove)

[RANDLOVER]

I had another pigeon come to visit but this one was the racing/homing/city type although it didn't have rings around it's legs. It seemed very thirsty as came up close while I was watering the garden and was drinking the runoff on the lawn, it also ate some cat mince but it's mouth wasn't big enough to eat the cat crunchies so I broke those up for it with a stone, it hung around for a couple of days, spending the one day in the alcove at my front door, then disappeared, I hope it was just recuperating and has continued it's journey and isn't dead.

[350RRC]

Mythbusters busted this in S1 Ep 6 in the case of the constant 650 volts 3rd rail train lines the have in the US.

MythBusters (TV Series 2003–2018) - IMDb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383126/'ref_=tt_ov_inf)

I've been thinking about this and what I said about the apparent 'spike' could well be wrong, but in the field that's the way it presents.......... and I've copped a few. I've sometimes been in contact with the wire (supposedly off) for 20 sec, then wham.

If there is constant voltage (not doubting this) how come it is just a split second belt? Is the system working like an ignition coil?

My uncle used to manufacture plastic insulators out of poly pipe for connecting tree guards to the main electric fence line on his farm in the Strathbogies.

All his fences were electrified and he had bare fluoro tubes on the electric wires that glowed faintly at night from induction so he could see at a glance that everything was working and the cattle were in check, which suggests constant voltage.

cheers, David L

[BradC]

If there is constant voltage (not doubting this) how come it is just a split second belt? Is the system working like an ignition coil?

Some (not all) have a constant voltage to indicate continuity (end to end). They all however use a pulse for high voltage. The more agricultural use an ignition coil, and the more refined use bespoke transformers and fancy electronics, but they are all pulses.

Constant DC high voltage is a recipe for death as it induces a consistent muscle contraction and you can't let go. Short high voltage pulses don't do that, they hurt more and you can use a much higher voltage to assist in overcoming skin/hide resistance to make sure it "bloody hurts".

When I did some work in South Africa back in the late 90's we looked at some lethal ones. 2 warning pulses 750ms apart and the third one 750ms later is the "big one". They worked by detecting the additional resistance applied to the fence during the warning pulses and cranking the voltage up to "overcome the additional load". We got asked whether the Prison system here would be interested into looking at them. We backed away quietly.