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Pedro_The_Swift
21st November 2022, 12:13 PM
If I hook up a van with a 6.1m wheelbase, at 90deg to centreline of van, how far do I have to move it before it "falls in behind" ?

Tins
21st November 2022, 12:37 PM
If I hook up a van with a 6.1m wheelbase, at 90deg to centreline of van, how far do I have to move it before it "falls in behind" ?

FFS, Pedro, that's why God gave you mirrors.....

gavinwibrow
21st November 2022, 01:22 PM
If I hook up a van with a 6.1m wheelbase, at 90deg to centreline of van, how far do I have to move it before it "falls in behind" ?



Thinking tangentially, methinks it could depend on the relative location of the axle(s)

Pedro_The_Swift
21st November 2022, 01:30 PM
[bigrolf]
even huge clearviews cant answer this ...

its an interesting engineering problem,, theres probably an equation out there..
I have 5.9m of road left (on the left) until the van must be within a metre of the cars centre line.

Pedro_The_Swift
21st November 2022, 01:33 PM
Thinking tangentially, methinks it could depend on the relative location of the axle(s)

ball is 1.2 behind rear car axle,
centre of vans axles is 6.1 from hitch.

Tombie
21st November 2022, 02:04 PM
I'd suggest if you are talking a specific location you will need to accomodate (and you arent stuck there right now) to just set up the very situation somewhere clear and give it a go!

Tins
21st November 2022, 02:10 PM
I'd suggest if you are talking a specific location you will need to accomodate (and you arent stuck there right now) to just set up the very situation somewhere clear and give it a go!

Could be an interesting little exercise to post in TGO.

rovers4
21st November 2022, 10:04 PM
I think that the available squirm in the tyres might play a small part, but I reckon it will be about 12metres as a guess.

Slunnie
21st November 2022, 10:50 PM
[bigrolf]
even huge clearviews cant answer this ...

its an interesting engineering problem,, theres probably an equation out there..
I have 5.9m of road left (on the left) until the van must be within a metre of the cars centre line.

This equation might help.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/general-chat/181995d1669034964-how-far-71lj2z.jpg


Admittedly, it also might not. :lol2:

windsock
22nd November 2022, 02:01 AM
Using a drawing, by my reckoning, approx 16m of road length would be needed to get the van axle centre within 1 metre of the centre of the tow point.

181996

NavyDiver
22nd November 2022, 08:09 AM
Interior and exterior is just a fraction of 360 degrees. Sine, Cosine and Tangent


5.9m or the wheel width is 'Adjacent'

Two numbers needed for 'Hypotenuse' and 'Opposite'

Using of the 6.1 from hitch as the 'Hypotenuse' seems reasonable. You added the 90 degree right angle to make it easy

We have two sides so you know the formula. Sing It loud

Colin Dodds - Pythagorean Theorem (Math Song) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8-bnZh8Zuc)

ramblingboy42
23rd November 2022, 04:37 PM
hypotenuse......mt everest base camp toilet

RANDLOVER
24th November 2022, 07:21 PM
Interior and exterior is just a fraction of 360 degrees. Sine, Cosine and Tangent


5.9m or the wheel width is 'Adjacent'

Two numbers needed for 'Hypotenuse' and 'Opposite'

Using of the 6.1 from hitch as the 'Hypotenuse' seems reasonable. You added the 90 degree right angle to make it easy

We have two sides so you know the formula. Sing It loud

Colin Dodds - Pythagorean Theorem (Math Song) - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8-bnZh8Zuc)

An easy way to do this calculation is knowing the sides of a right angle triangle are always in the ratio of 3:4:5.

gavinwibrow
24th November 2022, 08:05 PM
An easy way to do this calculation is knowing the sides of a right angle triangle are always in the ration of 3:4:5.



What about 5, 12, 13 et al?

RANDLOVER
24th November 2022, 08:47 PM
What about 5, 12, 13 et al?


Common Pythagorean triples[edit]
Main article: Pythagorean triple
There are several Pythagorean triples which are well-known, including those with sides in the ratios:


3: 4 :5
5: 12 :13
8: 15 :17
7: 24 :25
9: 40 :41
Special right triangle - Wikipedia

Pedro_The_Swift
27th November 2022, 07:06 PM
Rather than just run over some shrubs I asked the parks head maintenance guy what he'd like me to do, turn right and ruin some plants or turn left and squeeze between a light pole and a van hitch, "turn left" he said and when i stopped due to lack of clearence with said pole, he just walked over, pulled it out of the ground and waved me on !

Tins
27th November 2022, 07:09 PM
Rather than just run over some shrubs I asked the parks head maintenance guy what he'd like me to do, turn right and ruin some plants or turn left and squeeze between a light pole and a van hitch, "turn left" he said and when i stopped due to lack of clearence with said pole, he just walked over, pulled it out of the ground and waved me on !

Who needs geometry when you have janitors?

V8Ian
27th November 2022, 07:40 PM
Rather than just run over some shrubs I asked the parks head maintenance guy what he'd like me to do, turn right and ruin some plants or turn left and squeeze between a light pole and a van hitch, "turn left" he said and when i stopped due to lack of clearence with said pole, he just walked over, pulled it out of the ground and waved me on !
:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling::clap2: And you had half the forum worried that you would be trapped there forever!

Tins
28th November 2022, 08:25 AM
There is, of course, one question as yet unasked: How did you get the thing in there in the first place?? Skyhooks?

V8Ian
28th November 2022, 08:33 AM
There is, of course, one question as yet unasked: How did you get the thing in there in the first place?? Skyhooks?
I assumed it was a drive through site, with a tight exit.
Pedro is many things, but a fool is not one of them.

Tins
28th November 2022, 08:59 AM
I assumed it was a drive through site, with a tight exit.
Pedro is many things, but a fool is not one of them.

You forget to switch your sense of humour on this morning, Ian? Yes, I had assumed the same thing but felt like asking anyway.

Pedro_The_Swift
28th November 2022, 09:09 AM
There is, of course, one question as yet unasked: How did you get the thing in there in the first place?? Skyhooks?

Difference between a park full and a park empty [wink11]

Tins
28th November 2022, 09:17 AM
Difference between a park full and a park empty [wink11]

You can't help it if you attract the masses, P. You were in WA, right? They probably came for a beer.

V8Ian
28th November 2022, 09:28 AM
You forget to switch your sense of humour on this morning, Ian? Yes, I had assumed the same thing but felt like asking anyway.
No John, I was leaving it open to comment. [wink11]