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incisor
15th December 2022, 08:27 AM
blew a blinker bulb on the front of my territory yesterday coming home from a visit to the doctors
the dash lit up with warning lights, playing a merry tune as well and left me in no doubt there was an issue
quick look to see how i get to the bulb to replace it...
bloody hell, looks like a 2 hour job
remove 15+ odd screws, pull out wheel arch plastic cover, find the bulb holder nearly at arms length
and then put it all back FFS
[biggrin]
Tins
15th December 2022, 08:54 AM
blew a blinker bulb on the front of my territory yesterday coming home from a visit to the doctors
the dash lit up with warning lights, playing a merry tune as well and left me in no doubt there was an issue
quick look to see how i get to the bulb to replace it...
bloody hell, looks like a 2 hour job
remove 15+ odd screws, pull out wheel arch plastic cover, find the bulb holder nearly at arms length
and then put it all back FFS
[biggrin]
Falcon's similar. Yet changing the front indicator globe in my D2 is one of the easiest jobs in the world.
incisor
15th December 2022, 09:04 AM
As it was on all my landrovers but the wife's arthritic knee and my arthritic hands have put pay to that sadly
trout1105
15th December 2022, 10:30 AM
A simple oil filter change on the missus's Triton is a bugger as well, You have to remove the rubber on the wheel arch and fight your way to the filter.
The filter change on the D2a V8 was a simple matter.
AK83
15th December 2022, 11:38 AM
Falcon's similar. Yet changing the front indicator globe in my D2 is one of the easiest jobs in the world.
And even that is made doubly hard compared to a D1!!
[bigrolf]
If I remember it right, my dads old Explorer was as hard if not harder than the description of the Territory(may have been headlight bulb, but either one of them was made far too hard for a simple bulb)
Tins
15th December 2022, 11:41 AM
And even that is made doubly hard compared to a D1!!
Actually, yes. Biggest problem was getting the bloody light to stay in!
incisor
15th December 2022, 12:03 PM
A simple oil filter change on the missus's Triton is a bugger as well, You have to remove the rubber on the wheel arch and fight your way to the filter.
The filter change on the D2a V8 was a simple matter.
yeah, i watched the guy next door try to do an oil filter change on his triton and it wasn't pretty, as they say...
incisor
15th December 2022, 12:05 PM
well, it is done
$12 for an amber 21w bulb and 1 1/2hrs of excitement and the dash is not singing so i'll take that as a win.
Saitch
15th December 2022, 12:29 PM
well, it is done
$12 for an amber 21w bulb and 1 1/2hrs of excitement and the dash is not singing so i'll take that as a win.
Strewth! $12 for 1 1/2 hours excitement is good value Inc. I reckon you'd have to go back to £sd to get that sort of deal. You know, six quid.
182504
Perhaps JD might enlighten us? [bighmmm]
Tins
15th December 2022, 12:44 PM
well, it is done
$12 for an amber 21w bulb and 1 1/2hrs of excitement and the dash is not singing so i'll take that as a win.
At least you didn't need a scan tool to reset the thing...
Tins
15th December 2022, 12:45 PM
Perhaps JD might enlighten us? [bighmmm]
Only intermittently.
Slunnie
15th December 2022, 01:15 PM
I think when I changed the Disco2 radiator I had to remove everything attached to the towbar. :lol2:
Saitch
15th December 2022, 01:33 PM
In the 70s, my Mum had a Mini and I remember replacing the fanbelt on it. I seem to remember it being somewhat annoying.
incisor
15th December 2022, 01:34 PM
At least you didn't need a scan tool to reset the thing...Have got one...
Chasing a condenser fan issue at the moment...
The fans go to 100% and stay there with the air-conditioning on
Noisy as hell... Poxing thing
incisor
15th December 2022, 01:36 PM
In the 70s, my Mum had a Mini and I remember replacing the fanbelt on it. I seem to remember it being somewhat annoying.Been there done that
The Morris 1300 was even worse but the ride was great..
L
Tins
15th December 2022, 01:44 PM
Have got one...
Chasing a condenser fan issue at the moment...
The fans go to 100% and stay there with the air-conditioning on
Noisy as hell... Poxing thing
You were aware, before you bought it, that Ford and LR used to be joined at the hip ?
gromit
15th December 2022, 01:59 PM
I had 2 Territories for 10 years and one for 6 years.
So far only one indicator bulb needed replacing, what a pita.
Fitted about 10 headlamp bulbs, should be straight forward but I always seem to struggle.
Colin
scarry
15th December 2022, 03:18 PM
In the 70s, my Mum had a Mini and I remember replacing the fanbelt on it. I seem to remember it being somewhat annoying.
Try replacing the fan belt on a Series one with a Capstan winch fitted,it's somewhat more than annoying[bigsad]
scarry
15th December 2022, 03:22 PM
Have got one...
Chasing a condenser fan issue at the moment...
The fans go to 100% and stay there with the air-conditioning on
Noisy as hell... Poxing thing
Sure that is not normal?Many do run full speed all the time,that is if you are talking about the electic fan?
And yes they are bloody noisy.
The D2 has one,turns on and off with the AC,and if the engine is running hotter than normal.
Tins
15th December 2022, 03:36 PM
And yes they are bloody noisy.
Don't think I've ever heard one noisier than a Citroen CX 2200 Pallas.... Bloke who designed the fans on that cut his teeth on Concorde.
Markf
15th December 2022, 03:58 PM
Been there done that
The Morris 1300 was even worse but the ride was great..
L
A Mk 1 Cooper S was essentially an engine out job and as well as replacing the fan belt you were well advised to fit a split fan shroud from a Mk 2 Cooper S.
incisor
15th December 2022, 04:16 PM
You were aware, before you bought it, that Ford and LR used to be joined at the hip ?Yep . It has the tdv6 to boot....
incisor
15th December 2022, 04:17 PM
Try replacing the fan belt on a Series one with a Capstan winch fitted,it's somewhat more than annoying[bigsad]I wish [emoji1785]
ozscott
15th December 2022, 05:13 PM
yeah, i watched the guy next door try to do an oil filter change on his triton and it wasn't pretty, as they say...Must have been an earlier model than the 2.4 diesel or maybe a petrol? 2.4 is very easy Mitsubishi Triton 2022 Oil Change - YouTube (https://youtu.be/VrwbGN3kWLo) and filter is accessible from under the front. I reckon it take another couple of minutes than my D2 V8 only because of the Trito's stone guard that needs removing.
Cheers
incisor
15th December 2022, 07:27 PM
Must have been an earlier model than the 2.4 diesel or maybe a petrol? 2.4 is very easy Mitsubishi Triton 2022 Oil Change - YouTube (https://youtu.be/VrwbGN3kWLo) and filter is accessible from under the front. I reckon it take another couple of minutes than my D2 V8 only because of the Trito's stone guard that needs removing.
CheersIt's not a new one by a long way
Poor old thing cops a flogging carting fencing gear
He gets some one to service it for him these days
ChookD2
15th December 2022, 09:36 PM
In the 70s, my Mum had a Mini and I remember replacing the fanbelt on it. I seem to remember it being somewhat annoying.
My first car was a Mini. Yes, fan belts are garbage to change but you should try changing the bypass hose. :eek2::censored:
Tins
15th December 2022, 09:43 PM
My first car was a Mini. Yes, fan belts are garbage to change but you should try changing the bypass hose. :eek2::censored:
But Alex Issigonis was a genius, remember.
However, i'd forgive My Cooper S ANYTHING, as it was an absolute hoot to drive. I used to take at least half an hour to go to the shop to get milk. I could walk to that shop in 5 minutes, but the Mini would tempt me..... I'd have that car back in a heartbeat.
ChookD2
15th December 2022, 09:52 PM
Yep, I'd have another Mini for sure.[thumbsupbig]
3toes
15th December 2022, 10:33 PM
Had a mini van and remember changing that bypass hose it was an experience
Fun to drive if being picky just needed the peddles to be a couple of inches further forward for a near perfect driving position
Bought a TV stand as you did back in the day. Negotiated a deal by taking the slightly shop soiled one off the showroom floor. Yes was living the single life so price and functionality were more important than it being new. After asking as my car going to be big enough to carry it home assured would be fine as I had a van.
Once in car park could see them looking around for the van I was driving. Had to direct them to the mini. Front wheel drive without a rear axle provided a tardis like carrying capacity so it went in without a problem. They were going back into the showroom so others could see that they had loaded it into a mini as otherwise no one would believe them
Was a great car that I sold to buy a Holden one tonner. Had purchased it as one owner from new from a deceased estate. Sold it to a cousin who drove it for a few years then I last saw it in the staff car park at the Eventide nursing home at Sandgate
trout1105
15th December 2022, 10:41 PM
My first car was a Mini. Yes, fan belts are garbage to change but you should try changing the bypass hose. :eek2::censored:
Try changing a cluch out on those east west pommy engines[bigwhistle]
Markf
16th December 2022, 12:52 AM
But Alex Issigonis was a genius, remember.
However, i'd forgive My Cooper S ANYTHING, as it was an absolute hoot to drive. I used to take at least half an hour to go to the shop to get milk. I could walk to that shop in 5 minutes, but the Mini would tempt me..... I'd have that car back in a heartbeat.
I had a Mk 1 and a Mk 2 Cooper S but the best Mini I had was a 997 cc Cooper. I've seen a couple of real 997's for sale and the prices are eye watering. Usually well over $100k for a genuine one - not a replica. The fan belt on the Cooper was easy to change but the bypass hose was easier with the engine out...
V8Ian
16th December 2022, 01:45 AM
You blokes whining about Mini fanbelts, should have got V-dubs.
https://youtu.be/BQhfcdQf1QA
350RRC
16th December 2022, 08:18 AM
Try changing a cluch out on those east west pommy engines[bigwhistle]
A woman I knew 30 years ago had a Mini Moke.
AFAIR the ring gear was trashed, but it might have been the clutch. Cost 3k to get fixed, which was a lot back then.
DL
DoubleChevron
16th December 2022, 08:31 AM
Don't think I've ever heard one noisier than a Citroen CX 2200 Pallas.... Bloke who designed the fans on that cut his teeth on Concorde.
must have been an early one .... maybe '76 .... the later cars went to series/parallel fans. so mostly run just on low speed. If your sitting at traffic lights and they spool up to full speed, often pedestrians would take a few steps back as the air being blown at them was too hot.
Tins
16th December 2022, 09:05 AM
must have been an early one .... maybe '76 .... the later cars went to series/parallel fans. so mostly run just on low speed. If your sitting at traffic lights and they spool up to full speed, often pedestrians would take a few steps back as the air being blown at them was too hot.
Well, the second job I had after the Army was in an office building in Miller Street, North Sydney, in a little workshop they had to service the rich folks cars. The building's owner's wife drove this thing, which I admit was lovely and fascinating, which you could hear coming from half a block away. I had that job from Feb 1977, so I guess you have the date right. Mrs Little didn't drive cars older than a year. Her previous car became the office runabout. It was a FIAT 130! Sedan, not the Coupé.
That CX made an impression on me. Silver, tan interior, and an instrument panel straight out of The Thunderbirds. The rest of the family drove such plebeian offerings as a Rolls Royce Corniche, a Series 3 V12 E Type, an XJ12 and a Range Rover.
I opened the bonnet on it once... and promptly closed it again. Here be Dragons. The E Type was simple by comparison, at least to my innocent mind. So I went out and bought a FIAT.
ramblingboy42
16th December 2022, 09:11 AM
A fiat?.....but I doooon't believe it......
Tins
16th December 2022, 09:24 AM
A fiat?.....but I doooon't believe it......
Why not?? I had seven or eight of the things before I saw the error of my ways and moved on to Land Rovers...[bigwhistle]
I still have one down the back, although I admit it is more rust than car. Given the $$$ people are willing to pay for parts from a 1969 124AC Coupé it may well be my super.
scarry
16th December 2022, 09:35 AM
You blokes whining about Mini fanbelts, should have got V-dubs.]
Holden red motor was nearly as easy,as long as one had a piece of wood to tension it back up.
Usually no AC or PS belts to get in the way either
DoubleChevron
16th December 2022, 09:48 AM
Well, the second job I had after the Army was in an office building in Miller Street, North Sydney, in a little workshop they had to service the rich folks cars. The building's owner's wife drove this thing, which I admit was lovely and fascinating, which you could hear coming from half a block away. I had that job from Feb 1977, so I guess you have the date right. Mrs Little didn't drive cars older than a year. Her previous car became the office runabout. It was a FIAT 130! Sedan, not the Coupé.
That CX made an impression on me. Silver, tan interior, and an instrument panel straight out of The Thunderbirds. The rest of the family drove such plebeian offerings as a Rolls Royce Corniche, a Series 3 V12 E Type, an XJ12 and a Range Rover.
I opened the bonnet on it once... and promptly closed it again. Here be Dragons. The E Type was simple by comparison, at least to my innocent mind. So I went out and bought a FIAT.
182544
There be no dragons.... its a simple 4 banger that looks normal these days as most cars have east/west motors these days :)
Tins
16th December 2022, 10:08 AM
182544
There be no dragons.... its a simple 4 banger that looks normal these days as most cars have east/west motors these days :)
Yeah, but in 1977 mechanical fuel injection was high tech. Seeing that pic, though, shows that there was nothing much to fear.
Edit: Obviously mech fuel injection was NOT high tech for diesels... Petrol cars were a different story.
Tins
16th December 2022, 11:05 AM
There be no dragons.... its a simple 4 banger that looks normal these days as most cars have east/west motors these days :)
I don't recall that it had horn trumpets in that location.
DoubleChevron
16th December 2022, 11:30 AM
Yeah, but in 1977 mechanical fuel injection was high tech. Seeing that pic, though, shows that there was nothing much to fear.
Edit: Obviously mech fuel injection was NOT high tech for diesels... Petrol cars were a different story.
Oh, that is just a picture I had handy to show the layout. That is an '85 petrol turbo. The '76 models are a twin choke weber carby. they didn't get fuel injection for a few years and it was electronic. the Citroen DS did get Djectronic in the late 60's. Though it shares much of its components with every other Djectronic cars of its era.
Yes compared to local cars it would have been horrendously complex. I remember when I was a kid pointing to the "alloy head" badges and "radial tuned suspension" badges on local cars and saying "Doesn't mums renault 16 have an all alloy motor .... 1960's ... not 1990s" ...... Citroen was using radial tires in 1948 ......
these days they are nothing special. Back then they must have been quite something. Still mine will never be for sale. Their isn't a modern car that interests me even in the slightest. The damn things are all the same.
DoubleChevron
16th December 2022, 11:39 AM
I don't recall that it had horn trumpets in that location.
All of the Citroen CX's sold here had "town" and "country" horns. You push the horn button gently and you get a very loud horn.. push it a bit harder and a second later (feels like an eternity when your desperately trying to avoid and accident) .... the air horns cut in .... it sounds like you have a freight train bearing down on you when they start sounding [bigrolf]
Its all fun.
I know i sound like a nutter .... but this is my view right now if I look up from my work desk (my home office is in the back corner of the shed).
182545
182546
it only gets worse if go looking at the falling down sheds and carports around the yard [bigwhistle]
loanrangie
16th December 2022, 11:42 AM
A woman I knew 30 years ago had a Mini Moke.
AFAIR the ring gear was trashed, but it might have been the clutch. Cost 3k to get fixed, which was a lot back then.
DL
It takes like 30mins to remove the engine, when i lived in the UK i had to change a gearbox on my Fiat Strada (FWD very much like a VW golf). Did the swap out the front of my mates house as no one had a garage or shed, not a difficult job but in cold pommy weather without proper tools was a bit harder.
Tins
16th December 2022, 12:29 PM
All of the Citroen CX's sold here had "town" and "country" horns. You push the horn button gently and you get a very loud horn.. push it a bit harder and a second later (feels like an eternity when your desperately trying to avoid and accident) .... the air horns cut in .... it sounds like you have a freight train bearing down on you when they start sounding
First time I came across that was in a 1959 Bentley Continental but it's a European thing. The FIAT 130 I mentioned did it, but there was a switch to change it.
Its all fun.
I know i sound like a nutter ....
Nope. You're just eccentric. Vive la difference! And I couldn't agree more about modern cars. I like to keep my 'appliances' in the kitchen.
Great view from the office, BTW. Is that an 11CV, or a Light 15? Or some variant I'm ignorant of?
DoubleChevron
16th December 2022, 12:50 PM
First time I came across that was in a 1959 Bentley Continental but it's a European thing. The FIAT 130 I mentioned did it, but there was a switch to change it.
Nope. You're just eccentric. Vive la difference! And I couldn't agree more about modern cars. I like to keep my 'appliances' in the kitchen.
Great view from the office, BTW. Is that an 11CV, or a Light 15? Or some variant I'm ignorant of?
I'll get to the thing someday. life it just to busy at the moment. That is my fathers Traction Avant Legere. Which means it a small body french built car, but in RHD. Apparentlly they were delivered in primer and is painted a chrysler colour from the time. So being french is has the dainty little door handles, painted grill and metal dash. Most are UK build so feature slabs of dead tree and chome all over :) Its only taken me about 5 years to get its gearbox back together and re-installed. I just need to go through the brakes again now as its been sitting so long..... I'll pencil that in for just after chistmas ...... 2035 [bighmmm] .........
I'm told this car was used in the sullivans at one point. I've never seen the show though, its waaaayyy before my time :)
Tins
16th December 2022, 01:19 PM
I'll get to the thing someday. life it just to busy at the moment. That is my fathers Traction Avant Legere. Which means it a small body french built car, but in RHD. Apparentlly they were delivered in primer and is painted a chrysler colour from the time. So being french is has the dainty little door handles, painted grill and metal dash. Most are UK build so feature slabs of dead tree and chome all over :) Its only taken me about 5 years to get its gearbox back together and re-installed. I just need to go through the brakes again now as its been sitting so long..... I'll pencil that in for just after chistmas ...... 2035 [bighmmm] .........
Can't rush these things.. That you've kept it at all is admirable.
I'm told this car was used in the sullivans at one point. I've never seen the show though, its waaaayyy before my time :)
Wouldn't surprise me at all. It wasn't before mine.
RANDLOVER
16th December 2022, 07:17 PM
.............Mrs Little didn't drive cars older than a year. Her previous car became the office runabout..........
Sounds like my father's relatives who were cane farmers, he described them as "sugar barons" who never bought tyres for their cars, as by the time they needed tyres they'd already bought a new car.
350RRC
16th December 2022, 08:36 PM
It takes like 30mins to remove the engine, when i lived in the UK i had to change a gearbox on my Fiat Strada (FWD very much like a VW golf). Did the swap out the front of my mates house as no one had a garage or shed, not a difficult job but in cold pommy weather without proper tools was a bit harder.
Thanks Nick.
That was a Fiat............ this was the same as a Mini.
Point is that no one wanted to touch this job back then, hence the cost from one mob in Geelong.
Mainstream price now in D3/4 territory, just to fix ................ a weeping wallet ecu.
DL
350RRC
16th December 2022, 08:42 PM
Sounds like my father's relatives who were cane farmers, he described them as "sugar barons" who never bought tyres for their cars, as by the time they needed tyres they'd already bought a new car.
And never cleaned ovens................ just bought new stoves.
Did Dad's relatives own or lease the land?
DL
RANDLOVER
16th December 2022, 09:07 PM
And never cleaned ovens................ just bought new stoves.
Did Dad's relatives own or lease the land?
DL
They owned the land but had some of it turned in a Nat'l Park when the gov't wanted to put a road through it, as that part was where their ancestors were buried.
superquag
17th December 2022, 12:23 AM
Can't rush these things.. That you've kept it at all is admirable.
Wouldn't surprise me at all. It wasn't before mine.
LIARS, the pair of youse. !
- Just knowing what they are,,,, PROVES. your vintage ! [biggrin][bigsmile1][bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]
Tins
17th December 2022, 07:21 AM
LIARS, the pair of youse. !
Not me! I think my first wife was secretly in love with Paul Cronin ( turned out she wasn't in love with me...[bigsad][bigsmile] ) as The Sullivans was an almost religious experience for her. She made me drive around Camberwell/Canterbury seeking out the house...
As for the cars.. mum used to tell a story about going to the Olympic Village ( 1956 ) to watch the athletes, with a three year old me in tow. I didn't give a stuff about athletes ( still don't ), but I was fascinated by cars. "Look mum, it's a Holden" "Look mum, it's an MG". Bloke standing there says to her "They're not bad, are they". To me he said " C'mon sonny, I'll bet you don't know what this one is". Seems that I looked at him with scorn and said "Course I do, it's a Daimbler". Knew what it was but didn't know how to say it. Poor bloke... mum never let on that we had an MG Y at home and a Daim(b)ler DB 18 parked nearby. Her mates had Rileys and Rovers.
There weren't that many cars around back then. But I remained fascinated with them until they all became clones of one another.
Tins
17th December 2022, 07:32 AM
Sounds like my father's relatives who were cane farmers, he described them as "sugar barons" who never bought tyres for their cars, as by the time they needed tyres they'd already bought a new car.
This mob were builders.. No, I don't mean they had calloused hands and a pencil in their bib pocket. I mean they "invested" in bits of land and threw up 20 story office buildings around the CBD.
This poor lady used to complain that she was "only just getting used to it" when hubby got her a new one.
Tins
17th December 2022, 07:38 AM
You blokes whining about Mini fanbelts, should have got V-dubs.
Had a 1300 Beetle for a few months. It seized on the old motorway to Penrith. Well, I didn't know you needed those silly cardboard tubes to keep the ridiculous thing cool, did I? Just after I'd had the joy of replacing the accelerator cable too... Got rid of it and bought my first FIAT. [bigwhistle][bigsad]
Tins
17th December 2022, 07:54 AM
the prices are eye watering.
There's another vid of this one somewhere where it sold for 40 something thousand POUNDS... And it's a 1275...
https://youtu.be/rihAb2U_8-8
DoubleChevron
21st December 2022, 08:50 AM
We should all just get modern range rovers .... then everything else will seem simple. Anyone for lifting the body off to do some routine maintenance ? [bigrolf][bighmmm]
Tins
21st December 2022, 09:20 AM
We should all just get modern range rovers .... then everything else will seem simple. Anyone for lifting the body off to do some routine maintenance ? [bigrolf][bighmmm]
Can't see too many of the new ones being mucked around on in some shed somewhere in 40 years. We're not supposed to have fun.... Err...
Roverlord off road spares
21st December 2022, 02:17 PM
blew a blinker bulb on the front of my territory yesterday coming home from a visit to the doctors
the dash lit up with warning lights, playing a merry tune as well and left me in no doubt there was an issue
quick look to see how i get to the bulb to replace it...
bloody hell, looks like a 2 hour job
remove 15+ odd screws, pull out wheel arch plastic cover, find the bulb holder nearly at arms length
and then put it all back FFS
[biggrin]
You got to love Landrovers they are always there to throw you a curve ball some where, just to keep you on your toes.
Hope you and your family have a lovely Christmas. Heather
incisor
22nd December 2022, 07:35 AM
You got to love Landrovers they are always there to throw you a curve ball some where, just to keep you on your toes.
Hope you and your family have a lovely Christmas. HeatherSame to you and yours Heather..
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