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123rover50
29th December 2022, 07:09 AM
I had never heard of what3words until the radio network I am a member of, VKS-737, sent me a flyer explaining the concept.
Basically the whole world surface is divided into grids of 3 metre squares. Each square given a 3 word identity.
Emergency services have a free app called Emergency + Open that and the 3 words of your current location is displayed at the bottom of the screen. Press the button for the service you want , Police or 000 or SES and speak those 3 words and the service operator knows exactly where you are. Easier than trying to tell them Lat and Long or what the last road sign you saw was.
what3words /// The simplest way to talk about location (https://what3words.com/) One can also get the what3words app installed that lets you find anyplace either by the 3words or by name.
Any others here use it?

p38arover
29th December 2022, 07:32 AM
Never heard of it.

Tombie
29th December 2022, 08:17 AM
World wide navigation solved with WHAT3WORDS (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/282518-world-wide-navigation-solved-what3words.html)


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/290937-something-you-oldies-3.html#post3148661

Tins
29th December 2022, 08:31 AM
I have it. I have yet to find it useful, but I haven't been getting out much of late. Very interesting concept though.

123rover50
29th December 2022, 11:20 AM
World wide navigation solved with WHAT3WORDS (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/282518-world-wide-navigation-solved-what3words.html)


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-chat/290937-something-you-oldies-3.html#post3148661

Thanks. Missed that one.
Good to get it out and known about.

jonesfam
29th December 2022, 03:43 PM
If (&when) I was stuck somewhere the 3 words I would say will probably not be anything like the location words.
I could write them here but what is the point of looking at several *?
Jonesfam

AutoJen
29th December 2022, 08:54 PM
So brilliant to see all the discussion around what3words in the forum, I'm delighted to share that all Land Rover vehicles equipped with the latest version of Pivi Pro have now recieved an over the air update which enables the use of what3words in the navigation system. As a massive Land Rover fan and representative for what3words, please feel free to fire any questions this way!

Milton477
29th December 2022, 09:51 PM
A brilliant concept. We use it to give the location of solar powered control gear located in an irrigation scheme.

123rover50
30th December 2022, 03:56 PM
So brilliant to see all the discussion around what3words in the forum, I'm delighted to share that all Land Rover vehicles equipped with the latest version of Pivi Pro have now recieved an over the air update which enables the use of what3words in the navigation system. As a massive Land Rover fan and representative for what3words, please feel free to fire any questions this way!

I was treated by Ambos last week for wasp attack. I asked them if they use W3W. Only one of the three had heard of it.
Also instructions are not given how to use it. If one called 000 and just said the three words for ones position, the authorities might think one is talking gibberish. There has to be a explanation before hand.
Example , a Ringer on a large property gets bitten by a snake somewhere in the 1000 acre back paddock. He has a cell phone signal so calls 000.
Whats your position they ask. He says Blackthorn Station, in the back paddock near the small dam. Thats not going to help much so as he has W3W enabled he then should preface his position with "my position with W3W is wagering notepads leave " or whatever , then the ambos know what he is talking about and can find his exact position.

I think its a great system but needs to be publicized more.

p38arover
30th December 2022, 04:02 PM
I've previously used Eastings and Northings as they can localise you to within a metre. My 20+ yo old Garmin GPS (not a street directory type GPS) is set for that.

Topo maps have both deg min secs or degs & decimal degs as well as Eastings and Northings.

Street directories are also marked in Eastings and Northings.

But this system may be easier.

Easting and northing - GIS Wiki | The GIS Encyclopedia (http://wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Easting_and_northing)

I just opened the NSW EmergencyPlus app on my phone and, at the bottom, it has my location in W3W.

It says:

"My Location
Tell the operator your location"

then it has my address, lat, long and W3W

trout1105
30th December 2022, 04:25 PM
Lat and Long work in ANY language, Does W3W ?

V8Ian
30th December 2022, 05:47 PM
Lat and Long work in ANY language, Does W3W ?
Yes, widely used by the transport industry in Europe.

123rover50
30th December 2022, 06:04 PM
I've previously used Eastings and Northings as they can localise you to within a metre. My 20+ yo old Garmin GPS (not a street directory type GPS) is set for that.

Topo maps have both deg min secs or degs & decimal degs as well as Eastings and Northings.

Street directories are also marked in Eastings and Northings.

But this system may be easier.

Easting and northing - GIS Wiki | The GIS Encyclopedia (http://wiki.gis.com/wiki/index.php/Easting_and_northing)

I just opened the NSW EmergencyPlus app on my phone and, at the bottom, it has my location in W3W.

It says:

"My Location
Tell the operator your location"

then it has my address, lat, long and W3W

Yes, use either. Whatever is easier.
Back in the 70,s when my wife and I were cruising the Pacific in our home built ferro centre cockpit ketch "Hartley South seas" all navigation was done with sextant and sight reduction tables for air navigation. Still have them up in the roof somewhere. We had HF in the form of a Kenwood TS520 Ham radio bought from Dick Smith. Picked a call sign from somewhere and joined the other yachties checking into the Maritime Mobile (Mickey Mouse) net run by Tony in Auckland. All my position reports were in Degrees, Mins and Secs. Trying to read them over the mike in a rough sea was no easy job. Just reading three words would have been easier and more accurate I guess.
Trying to bring the sun down to a rough horizon was no easy task and not very accurate either. Still we got there.[bigsmile1]

p38arover
30th December 2022, 07:33 PM
We had HF in the form of a Kenwood TS520 Ham radio

I have a TS520 out in my electronics workshop (alongside my Yaesu FT-840, my Alinco 2m/70cm rig and my Philips FM900 2m rig).

Tins
30th December 2022, 08:16 PM
I have a TS520 out in my electronics workshop (alongside my Yaesu FT-840, my Alinco 2m/70cm rig and my Philips FM900 2m rig).

Do you ever tiptoe in to see if they are talking to one another? I think I would.

Tombie
30th December 2022, 10:04 PM
Lat and Long work in ANY language, Does W3W ?

Of course it does. Which map datum are you using for Lat Long?

That can put you off by a significant margin and I’m talking 100+ meters which in certain terrain could mean the difference between finding you or not.

trout1105
30th December 2022, 11:05 PM
Of course it does. Which map datum are you using for Lat Long?


GPS.
Not so sure about the Hema unit in the car But the Lowrance unit in the boat is pretty spot on (This still works on land as well of course) for getting a reasonably accurate Fix.
As for +/- 100m , Well that why we carry flares (even on land) [biggrin]

I also carry paper charts/maps But the accuracy of a fix using these alone is questionable.

Toxic_Avenger
31st December 2022, 08:56 AM
I have the app.
I also spoke to a friend who is a sergeant in the police radio division- For the uninitiated, they are who you speak to when you first dial 000.
She could not talk highly enough of what 3 words. Said it was very useful for them in their work for locating an emergency, and I would presume, this then gets relayed to the ambulance drivers / patrol cars / firefighters etc as required- in a format that helps them to be navigated to the emergency.
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Tombie
31st December 2022, 07:25 PM
GPS.
Not so sure about the Hema unit in the car But the Lowrance unit in the boat is pretty spot on (This still works on land as well of course) for getting a reasonably accurate Fix.
As for +/- 100m , Well that why we carry flares (even on land) [biggrin]

I also carry paper charts/maps But the accuracy of a fix using these alone is questionable.

GPS still uses a datum. Lat and long are not just 2 numbers. They relate to a datum (basically a model of the spheroid).

And seriously. Who carries flares in suburbia/surrounds?

When MTB riding, I have my phone and watch and Camelback… not throwing pyro in there.

Tombie
31st December 2022, 07:27 PM
I have the app.
I also spoke to a friend who is a sergeant in the police radio division- For the uninitiated, they are who you speak to when you first dial 000.
She could not talk highly enough of what 3 words. Said it was very useful for them in their work for locating an emergency, and I would presume, this then gets relayed to the ambulance drivers / patrol cars / firefighters etc as required- in a format that helps them to be navigated to the emergency.
.

Yep. If I say Booze,Avenger,Welding it’s much:
- Quicker
- Clearer
- Less likely to be misunderstood compared to a pile of numbers, and an unknown datum

trout1105
31st December 2022, 08:13 PM
And seriously. Who carries flares in suburbia/surrounds?

I don't live in suberbia/surrounds, I'm 40k from the nearest town.
When I do go away 99.99% of the time I have the boat attached ( the boat has flares in it), I don't carry them in the vehicle.

workingonit
31st December 2022, 08:53 PM
I can't find the grid having the reference "Lasseter's, Lost, Reef"

Tins
31st December 2022, 08:55 PM
I can't find the grid having the reference "Lasseter's, Lost, Reef"

If you do, I bags half...

workingonit
31st December 2022, 09:16 PM
If you do, I bags half...

Sorry, I'm not making any sort of binding agreement in front of so many online witnesses.

I might consider releasing information to all owners of Series 1/2/3 vehicles with factory fitted Land Rover engines and no over drives. Just to see a land rush at a max of 80kph.

trout1105
31st December 2022, 09:20 PM
I can't find the grid having the reference "Lasseter's, Lost, Reef"

Neither could Lasiter [bigwhistle]

p38arover
31st December 2022, 09:24 PM
Neither could Lasiter [bigwhistle]

Nor Lasseter.

workingonit
31st December 2022, 09:26 PM
Neither could Lasiter [bigwhistle]

That passed my mind before I posted. Tins would get half of nothing I think...better off investing his time in Oak Island - not for the 'treasure' but for the series film receipts.

workingonit
31st December 2022, 09:30 PM
Nor Lasseter.

I thought it was Losstitergain

Anyway, I think I diverted the thread enough.

Tins
31st December 2022, 09:47 PM
That passed my mind before I posted. Tins would get half of nothing I think...better off investing his time in Oak Island - not for the 'treasure' but for the series film receipts.
Unless it’s OKA island I’d struggle to get there. Even the original Scotia is beyond my reach.

workingonit
31st December 2022, 10:14 PM
Unless it’s OKA island I’d struggle to get there. Even the original Scotia is beyond my reach.

Start your own treasure mystery anywhere you like, just make sure you film in 4K/UHD for the 'Prime' services. Starting premise, you found a scrappy map that may, and always 'may', lead to the location of the original centre steer prototype LR.

Anyway, I gotta stop.