Interesting article title

[p38arover]

Too bad one needs to be a subscriber to read it but I was intrigued by the headline in The Australian.


Land Rover Defender 130 review: Let’s be kind and say they were going for a functional look

[one_iota]

LR has created a Bargearse Defender.

It has a longer body but the same wheelbase as the 110.

The new Land Rover Defender 130 | Land Rover Australia (https://www.landrover.com.au/vehicles/defender/defender-130/index.html)

It reminds me of that commercial "Does my bum look big in this?"

Even in the official LR stuff, you'll notice that the profile shots are played down.

Holden Suburban comes to mind.

[cripesamighty]

Also, Disco 1 and 2 spring to mind.

[4runnernomore]

Also, Disco 1 and 2 spring to mind.
But at least the D2 has cute booty booty [thumbsupbig][bigrolf]

[ramblingboy42]

why call it a 130?

what does 130 represent on the 663?

I noted on friday that Ineos are definitely releasing a LWB Grenadier with trayback option.

[one_iota]

S, M and L

90 wheelbase is 2587mm (~100 inch)
Body length ~4600mm

110 and 130 wheelbase is 3022mm (~119 inch)
Body lengths ~ 5035 and 5375 respectively

[ramblingboy42]

so ,

a 90 isnt a 90

a 110 isnt a 110

and a 130 isnt a 130

could LR have marketed the 663 without misconceptions of its wheelbase?

[one_iota]

so ,

a 90 isnt a 90

a 110 isnt a 110

and a 130 isnt a 130

could LR have marketed the 663 without misconceptions of its wheelbase?

Misconception? How many non-Land Rover people (and Land Rover owners) would have known what those numbers ever meant anyway? The word "wheelbase" isn't mentioned anywhere when referring to the old or the new. It's shorthand for size.

So Small Defender, Medium Defender, and Large Defender....doesn't have the same marketing cachet as 90, 110, and 130. They are trading successfully on that part of the Land Rover tradition.

Land Rover can call its vehicles whatever it wants to without having to seek your or my approval.

They are in the business of selling vehicles so, as they owned those descriptors for the old ones, they can use them for the new ones and we purists just have to get over it and move on. I have anyway!

[ramblingboy42]

So Small Defender, Medium Defender, and Large Defender....doesn't have the same marketing cachet as 90, 110, and 130.

you said it....

you also called the 130 663 barge arse.....

don't be so hard on your dearly loved land rover.

[DiscoDB]

So 90, 110, and 130 isn’t to indicate the starting price in AUD thousands.

Still bugs me when BMW started using 318, 320, 325, and 330 badges for models all with a 2.0L.

[one_iota]

So Small Defender, Medium Defender, and Large Defender....doesn't have the same marketing cachet as 90, 110, and 130.

you said it....

you also called the 130 663 barge arse.....

don't be so hard on your dearly loved land rover.

I own an original 110 and a new 110 and previously a Discovery so sadly that makes me a land rover tragic!

You seem to come here for sport rather than conversation so I don't know where you fit in this argument about what you call things.

Do you actually own one or the other or both or is that not relevant and is yours a rambling opinion?

[simo2420]

Perhaps then;
shorty medium and long
or small regular and large or is this getting to close to a latte order.

Whilst the 90 is now a hundred is was once an 86 and an 83.
So perhaps it is starting to suffer from middle age spread.

or perhaps its just a descriptor rather than a definition.
I think its nice they have hung onto a bit of old language.

But for me she'll always be a ninety and often a shorty, I know what I mean and what it means to me.

cheers
N.

[TonyC]

so ,

a 90 isnt a 90

a 110 isnt a 110

and a 130 isnt a 130

could LR have marketed the 663 without misconceptions of its wheelbase?

A 90 has never been 90 inches, it was 93 inches.
A 130 has never been 130 inches, it was 127 inches.

So Land Rover are just continuing a naming system they stuffed up 40 years ago.

Tony

[DiscoJeffster]

A 90 has never been 90 inches, it was 93 inches.
A 130 has never been 130 inches, it was 127 inches.

So Land Rover are just continuing a naming system they stuffed up 40 years ago.

Tony

Defender 93 or Defender 127 really doesn’t roll off the tongue does it? Stuff up? No, just sensible.

[ramblingboy42]

I don't know where you fit in this argument about what you call things

ummmm right alongside you.....or if you feel its an argument , opposite.

I haven't been inclined to purchase another LR since my D2 of an 8yrs affair and that's relevant. It was like upkeeping a high priced whore and most subscribers would understand.

this is me.....I'll sing for you too.
Donovan - Ramblin' Boy - YouTube (https://youtu.be/JuuM9Qxunuo)