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noddy
9th August 2006, 11:03 AM
I have been reading the thread with the pics of the new Defender and in the back of my head was thinking would I ever sell 'Kimba' for a new Defender????

Well.....the fact that the new Defender does not get the ZF 6-speed and the vents have gone for the aircon, mean that there is absolutely no thought of ever replacing Kimba.

So.....is your current Landy a 'keeper'? Never to be sold, but passed on to your next generation?

For us, 'Kimba' will always remain in the family until we can nolonger buy fossil fuels:D

Grizzly_Adams
9th August 2006, 11:11 AM
My beastie was bought with the intentional purpose of keeping her.

Jamo
9th August 2006, 11:11 AM
My D3 will be! I'll eventually trade the Suby on another work car, but keep the D3 for ever! (I've spent too much on accessories to afford to sell her!)

Maggot4x4
9th August 2006, 11:28 AM
I don't know if I could sell the Rangie even if I wanted too :-?

noddy
9th August 2006, 11:32 AM
I don't know if I could sell the Rangie even if I wanted too :-?

Howdy Maggot!

Why?

JDNSW
9th August 2006, 11:36 AM
I have no intention of replacing either the 110 or the 2a. The way I look at it is in my case, for the way I use the vehicles, they are better for the purpose than anything I can buy newer. Sure, the newer 110s are quieter and don't shake as much, perform better and are newer - but they also have thicker doors and less room and timing belts and computers and no galvanising on the body capping and computers and wheel bearings and drive flanges that fail.

OK, my 110 needs things doing to it from time to time, but for example I think I will soon be up for a steering box. At $1200 it is a lot of money, but small change in terms of replacing it with anything significantly better.

Same sort of argument can be made for the 2a. Both vehicles I can repair and maintain myself - if I have to get something done in town, I have to find someone who can give me a lift both ways.

I expect both vehicles will see me out - I only expect to be driving for perhaps another twenty years. About the only thing that I can see might prompt a change might be if I developed a disability for example that required an automatic, in which case it would probably make sense to change the vehicle rather than modify existing vehicles, especially since I would be unlikely to be able to do the work myself.
John

Maggot4x4
9th August 2006, 11:38 AM
Howdy Maggot!

Why?
It's such a bitser these days Tim, and the panels arn't exactly what you would call straight anymore :P

CraigE
9th August 2006, 12:11 PM
If they bring out a better Fender, most definately Shrek will go.

bluetongue
9th August 2006, 12:32 PM
I would consider but unless I can get a good price for my current fender will all the bits and pieces on it I will transfer the good stuff to the new vehicle... Once I get a newbie though it'll be a keeper for sure.

Redback
9th August 2006, 12:34 PM
Great minds think alike Tim, i was only thinking the same thing the other day, in all honesty i don't think i could sell the Disco now, i've grown to like it too much.

It maybe retired to a shopping cart or daily due to the abuse it gets, making it hard to sell anyway but i think it will stay and something like a Fender will take it's place as a tourer and weekend play thing:D

Baz.

blitz
9th August 2006, 01:45 PM
I would be happy to swap my much modified 94 discovery for a similar vintage defender with similar modifications but no, I have no real intentions of ever leaving the older landrover fraternity

Blythe

matbor
9th August 2006, 01:46 PM
Don't think I could sell the Disco:dbcry: !! It would cost $$$ way too much to replace it, if anything I would keep it and mod it for off-road fun and buy a defender or another disco (diesel) and use that for touring and daily use. Also the resale on a series one V8 disco is next to nothing so there is no point selling it, and hate to think about getting a road worthy on it :dbcry:.


Matt.

Frenchie
9th August 2006, 02:14 PM
I have to make a decision at the end of the year. Given that it will probably be too soon for the new model I'll most likely be keeping mine.

And the new model would have to have substantial improvements, such as a Vsomething td, auto etc etc. :cool:

Reads90
9th August 2006, 02:34 PM
ours was built for us and were are going to keep it untill the day it dies:cool: :cool:

ak
9th August 2006, 02:37 PM
I am toying with the idea of a new D3 however I would not take a new car off road for a while that's just me. I have only just started to go on a few outings in the D2 and am having a great time. So will most likely keep the D2 for a while longer.

discowhite
9th August 2006, 05:57 PM
so Tim, looks like you have found the reason LR dosent sell may vehicles! no one wants to part with with their's:D

and NO i wouldnt part with my landy either!

its to SEXY:wub:

phil

dobbo
9th August 2006, 06:05 PM
It's simple I couldn't afford a new on even if I sold the wife and kids. LRA needs there heads read with their pricing nowadays. Besides I like mine I have now. However If I got a third car I'd get a TD5 Defender

noddy
9th August 2006, 06:19 PM
so Tim, looks like you have found the reason LR dosent sell may vehicles! no one wants to part with with their's:D

and NO i wouldnt part with my landy either!

its to SEXY:wub:

phil

Phil -- that is not to say I would not buy another one....;) Kimba is the keeper, but if I could justify another Landy I would buy one. A nice little Rangie Sport would be nice for.....

Bushie
9th August 2006, 06:20 PM
My beastie was bought with the intentional purpose of keeping her.

Same here


Martyn

cols110
9th August 2006, 06:52 PM
No chance, both ours have to go, when we leave here, left hand drive and big import duties back in OZ means they need to be pensioned off when we re-locate back to OZ.

Shame, but such is life.

LoadedDisco
9th August 2006, 07:34 PM
I wont be selling the Disco I will keep it as long as it can burn fuel.
Just keep modifiying it along the way. Would not want to start at a new stock 4WD again now I have this one.

harro
9th August 2006, 07:35 PM
If they bring out a better Fender, most definately Shrek will go.
Yes, if something better comes along I'll certainly look at it. As far as tradition combined with improvement goes they haven't done to bad so far.

Pedro_The_Swift
9th August 2006, 08:03 PM
I dunno about BUB91,,

I just dont feel like giving it away--
when theres NOTHING wrong with it--
its been too long a family member to just "dispose" of it for the price of a new laptop,,

and as for the KENT GREEN one,,,

its life has just started!!!;)

DirtyDawg
9th August 2006, 08:06 PM
no, I bought the pig as a keeper..but The Disco will go once the wife has had enough of it:(

George130
9th August 2006, 08:11 PM
My plan when I bought it was to keep it but it will depend on the finances. If it keeps costing me more and more I might have to try and sell it and downgrade to a smaller older one.
I think it would have to be a Defender or series though.:twisted:

Greylandy
10th August 2006, 09:47 AM
That is why I bought a "new" Greylandy .. it was always going to be a keeper so I thought why not start from scratch, YOU know the history and YOU determine the future. Besides, man does not dedicate an entire website to a vehicle he does not intend to keep!! :D

... but I'm with you Noddy .. it shouldn't stop you from getting another landy.

ak
10th August 2006, 09:56 AM
It's simple I couldn't afford a new on even if I sold the wife and kids. LRA needs there heads read with their pricing nowadays. Besides I like mine I have now. However If I got a third car I'd get a TD5 Defender

I started a thread "Land Rover Pricing" just last week, arguing the same, and ACE and a few others indicated Land Rover Pricing was about right and the D3 good value for money.

No offence ACE know we are all entitle to our opinions but my opinion is still Land Rover prices are just a bit to dear and out of reach of most people compared to what the competion offers and I suspect this reason ( as above ) is why a lot of the loyal owners hear can't afford to jump into a new Landie.

bluetongue
10th August 2006, 10:01 AM
That is why I bought a "new" Greylandy .. it was always going to be a keeper so I thought why not start from scratch, YOU know the history and YOU determine the future. Besides, man does not dedicate an entire website to a vehicle he does not intend to keep!! :D

... but I'm with you Noddy .. it shouldn't stop you from getting another landy.

When I first started to get the "defender" disease about a year or so ago I tripped across your Greylandy website which lead me onto AULRO and that pretty much got me fully syched into it...

... family and friends said I was crazy but I purchased a 2nd hand defender anyway on boxing day last year (best crissie present a landy nut could ever get)

... and I have to say it is probably not the most financially sound decision I have ever made, but it is by far - the best friggin decision I have ever made!!!

I would definately consider trading and buying a new defender, mainly with the intent of owning it since new and keeping it for as long as I could!

... Scott

boggo
10th August 2006, 10:03 AM
Keeping it for sure.When the Td5 dies,a HS2.8 will probably go in

hiline
10th August 2006, 10:12 AM
if the new model is better when it gets here .............

i'll drop the kubota in replace of a new one :( /:D

and i would treat the new one just a little better for the long run

Rayngie
10th August 2006, 10:52 AM
Depends on how you look at you car and what you have, mine, WOMC, ( 92 classic rangie ), lovelly car but nothing special about it, I look at it as being at the pricepoint it is, it's disposable, if it dies, it's not going to cost much to get another one, it costs a lot to keep on the road and is only worth 7k, it's at the point of keeping in really good nick or smashing it about a bit ( and having loads of fun doing it! )
However, if I had a Defender, it would be a keeper, very versatile and would fit in with my lifestyle better than the Rangie, surfing, mountain biking,adventure racing, outdoors sorts of stuff etc..but the Rangie is so very comfortable and Defenders have no shoulder room for tall blokes..

I'm just not sure there is anything special about hanging onto a classic Range Rover for the rest of my life, too many of them available...definatley Defenders and Series would fall into 'keeper' category for me...

Ace
10th August 2006, 01:26 PM
I started a thread "Land Rover Pricing" just last week, arguing the same, and ACE and a few others indicated Land Rover Pricing was about right and the D3 good value for money.

No offence ACE know we are all entitle to our opinions but my opinion is still Land Rover prices are just a bit to dear and out of reach of most people compared to what the competion offers and I suspect this reason ( as above ) is why a lot of the loyal owners hear can't afford to jump into a new Landie.

I only disagreed with you on the value for money thing, they are great value for money, but i did agree with you on the price thing. For the average joe blow like me i will never be able to afford a new one without a couple of years hard saving first. My point was that for all the goodies you get on one the price is fair, but for you and me there needs to be an option with less goodies and more simplicity.

I bought the disco with the intention of keeping it for a while, in the end it wont be worth much with all the scratches etc. I will most likely buy a newer series 2 disco for general use and keep the one i have now as a weekend warrior. Matt

dungarover
10th August 2006, 02:18 PM
My Rangies are always keepers, til I see something that I 'must' have or I roll it like I did to Aquarangie.

I had planned pre-rolover to take it off the road and re-build the driveline after I had done the club night run, but I rolled it and the dreaded Lucas POD struck halfway up a hill and I lost control then rolled it :eek: :eek: :eek: Insurance screwed me bigtime but I kept the remains and sold many parts off it and got almost what it was worth market value at the time :) But it was sad that I wrecked it, still the best rangie I ever owned.

But I have modified 4 Rangies over the years and it's wearing thin now so the 87 Hi-Line I got now is a keeper. I looked at V8 Disco S2 but they're still too dear ATM, wouldn't mind taclking one of those to mod, I like a challenge:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Trav

muddymech
10th August 2006, 03:58 PM
the 90 is definatly a keeper, at least as long as the visa card keeps it in parts the disco can go when i can afford a diesal defender that is a lot newer and give more comfort for long distance.
lou is keeping her disco so dont mind spending a bit to keep that going.

goofyr
10th August 2006, 04:07 PM
I'm keeping the disco and will even start saving for the time I need to replace the injectors and do a rebuild on the TD5...its more affordable than buying a new one :D

one_iota
10th August 2006, 07:39 PM
I have often pondered this question...almost a daily occurrence as I drive the Co Commodore...

Now I could take on a novated lease and replace the Commodore with a new LR and flog the Disco.

Then the heartstrings are tugged...I have formed an attachment to my Fred Flintstone Disco...too many pleasant memories.

The Company Car helps me to preserve my classic 3dr S1 Discovery and I have something to look forward to driving on the weekend.

Slunnie
10th August 2006, 07:52 PM
My Disco2. Well I love it death, its brilliant for what I do, and it would be really sad to see it go especially after all of the work and money that has gone into it - but sometimes times change. Undecided if I'd sell it in the future. As the value of it drops with age perhaps I should keep it and keep modifying it further - perhaps different axles, gearbox and engine. Not sure as its hard to tell what it'll be like with 300,000km on the clock.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2011/12/971.jpg

My IIa. A hell of a lot of time has gone into this. Its only a keeper because it couldn't be given away. Nobody would take it! :D
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/09/273.jpg

DEFENDERZOOK
10th August 2006, 08:01 PM
hey...if youre giving that away......





what time do you want me to pick it up....?

Slunnie
10th August 2006, 08:04 PM
:lol2: Not really giving it away. It just needs a lot more work to be done.

JamesH
10th August 2006, 08:21 PM
My Defender definitely was a keeper. I have known it since new. I had wanted a Landie for yonks. It had all the fruit I wanted for my trips. Low km. It was meant to be.

Until yours truly (answers to the name of d**khead) goes and prangs it badly on the beach. It is back together and all is well I guess but there are some minor rattles that weren't there before. Maybe they would have started anyway, who knows, but it reminds me. I am not precious about the interior and lets face it it is a truck but my eye gets caught by some small sign that the dash as been in and out and the new panel does not quite line up the same way the other one and so on.

It's still a keeper and repairing was the best way to go. Well, best was to avoid the rocks on the beach...

Sigh. How does the song go?....

Regrets, I have had few,
and usually
they've been with Rovers...

LRHybrid100
10th August 2006, 09:04 PM
I'm with Reads - just build the one you want an keep it!!!

My Rangie and D100 will be around for a long time - but this is the good thing about Landies, you can just about rebuild everything.

HOWEVER, I cannot wait to see / drive the new Defender - even convinced the misses that her new car in 2 years time will be a brand new D110.

IF the new D110 does not turn out to be the one, then why not a 2003 ish D110 with a TDV8 motor 6 speed ZF Auto? Endless options.

LRH

1103.9TDI
12th August 2006, 09:46 PM
I bought mine with the express reason to keep it as long as I last, or fossil fuel is available!. I got sick of changing accessories every time the Toyota had to be replaced, ie bullbar, long range Tanks, etc, and at $50k a pop, theres not much left for fridges, roofracks, winches and suspension components. I looked for 2 years to find what I wanted, and I don't mind spending money for quality gear as long as it lasts, because the Rover will. Later on I'll galvanise the chassis, rewire, and do something about the door frames, but it'll still be heaps cheaper than a Cruiser/Patrol, it'll be full of kit, and it'll probably take me a lot further. 330k on the clock, shes still tight, does about 12l/100 on average at 3.5T and sits on 120kph. No ECU and I can work on most bits with basic hand tools. My Rover has its failings, but to me they are insignificant compared to the advantages of driving such a chick magnet.:D

scrambler
12th August 2006, 10:16 PM
Alright "Keeper" owners: How many Landies did you own first? Neither of my 2 to date have "forever" painted on them but I can't imagine being Landrover free in the future. There is the sex appeal of the Series/Defender style but it's still a method of transport. If it can no longer meet the requirement it can always be replaced with a newer (or older) one.

RobHay
12th August 2006, 10:19 PM
Naw ! The missus goes before the 2A goes:) :D :angel: ;)

JDNSW
13th August 2006, 07:28 AM
Alright "Keeper" owners: How many Landies did you own first? Neither of my 2 to date have "forever" painted on them but I can't imagine being Landrover free in the future. There is the sex appeal of the Series/Defender style but it's still a method of transport. If it can no longer meet the requirement it can always be replaced with a newer (or older) one.

I owned a Series 1 in 1962-3, replaced it with a Series 2 in 1963 for better performance, replaced it with a Series 2a in 1966 to go diesel, sold that when I went to PNG in 1969. Next bought the current 2a in 1990 and the current County in 1992.
John

p38arover
13th August 2006, 10:01 AM
To keep or not to keep, that is the question (apologies to the Bard).

I would have liked to have kept the 110 County but it wasn't practicable - already owning the P38A and the Forester. Oddly enough, driving the 110 County was enjoyable.

I've thought of replacing the P38A with a newer Defender but my right arm got quite painful from resting against the window frame of the County. I think it was the frame cooling the arm down too much but I'm not sure. A Defender would be the same.

The P38A is almost worthless on the market. To replace it would cost a fortune and that money will continue to buy a lot of LPG and/or petrol and to also fund repairs. However, I do find that I'm always worried something is going to fail and that tends to push one towards consideration of buying another brand. My wife reckons I'd worry about that failing, too.

Besides, the P38A is really a very good daily driver with the ability to go off-road sufficiently for my needs.

Plus, look what I just bought. A 155 litre Brown Davis long range tank for the P38A.
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3299/p38alongrangetank002ih1.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/9570/p38alongrangetank001copyrl5.jpg

Ron

Pedro_The_Swift
13th August 2006, 06:14 PM
oh yea!,, must be concerned--

that long range tank will take you just that much farther out of range---;):p

George130
13th August 2006, 07:33 PM
Odly enough as a planed keeper this is my first Landy. I just scored one with all the fruit. All I have to do is fix the things they bodged up. Once the Head has been done it should be there.

I would love to get a convertable 90 though.

amtravic1
13th August 2006, 08:04 PM
My old 89 Rangie has done near to 500,000 kms and just keeps going. It is complete with nearly every panel damaged from overgrown tracks and showing plenty of wear inside. Its worth nothing to sell so I will keep it until it dies. It still drives nicely. Driven current Patrols and a Prado and prefer the old Rangie however if a really good P38 came along at the right price then I would probably have fun making it look my current one.

Ian