Flywheel ring gear

[Mustlust]

I need to replace the ring gear on my 1.6 flywheel. I have spoken with Turner and Cox and they can supply the ring, but was wondering if fitting it can be done locally? They have an exchange option in store, but freight will be a big expense.
Who can, or has in the past, done this locally (in Victoria) and has it been a good outcome?

[JDNSW]

Replacing a ring gear is a simple operation. Many workshops used to do this as a routine operation. You just need to find one that still is prepared to do it.

All that is required is to remove the old one by splitting it, heat the new one in an oil bath, and drop it on the flywheel. If you can get a new ring, the rest is pretty easy. And hard to screw up.

[Tins]

Replacing a ring gear is a simple operation. Many workshops used to do this as a routine operation. You just need to find one that still is prepared to do it.

All that is required is to remove the old one by splitting it, heat the new one in an oil bath, and drop it on the flywheel. If you can get a new ring, the rest is pretty easy. And hard to screw up.

X2. And if you can't find a mechanic who'll do it any halfway competent fitter could do it if you don't want to take it on yourself.

[W&KO]

Replacing a ring gear is a simple operation. Many workshops used to do this as a routine operation. You just need to find one that still is prepared to do it.

All that is required is to remove the old one by splitting it, heat the new one in an oil bath, and drop it on the flywheel. If you can get a new ring, the rest is pretty easy. And hard to screw up.

John, is there a reason for the oil bath?? Or would popping it in the oven do the job??

[1950landy]

Replacing a ring gear is a simple operation. Many workshops used to do this as a routine operation. You just need to find one that still is prepared to do it.

All that is required is to remove the old one by splitting it, heat the new one in an oil bath, and drop it on the flywheel. If you can get a new ring, the rest is pretty easy. And hard to screw up.


When I worked for BMC, Leyland, JRA we used to just place them on 4 bricks & heat with Oxy acetylene torch running the flame around the circumference until the paint marking on the ring gear changed colour then pick it up with a pair of multigrips & drop it on making sure it was on the correct way for the Bendix drive to engage.

[gromit]

I installed one on a flywheel made for the C240 Isuzu fitted to my Series III.
Heated the ring gear in a hooded BBQ.

Isuzu C240 powered Series 3 (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/other-powered-series-land-rovers/151959-isuzu-c240-powered-series-3-a-post1707116.html#post1707116)

As mentioned by JDNSW, the old one needs to be split to remove.

Colin

[Tins]

John, is there a reason for the oil bath?? Or would popping it in the oven do the job??

It's just to ensure even expansion. So an oven, or careful use of a torch, would do.

[JDNSW]

As above - the oil bath ensures even heating and avoids any possibility of heating it enough to affect the heat treatment of the ring gear.

The ring gear needs to be heated evenly, so that it expands evenly, as it will be hard to get on if it is not circular. To do this, it also wants to be heated fairly slowly, and in an environment that is the same all over. A fan forced oven can probably do this, but I would not trust one that isn't - mine for example is good at burning one side of cakes!

While it is possible to do it with an oxy flame, a lot of skill is needed to avoid overheating and getting it evenly heated.

[Mustlust]

So, were the 1.6 flywheels one piece including teeth, or are the teeth always on a ring that gets fitted to the centre. I had a look last night and I cannot see any seam or join whatsoever.

[JDNSW]

So, were the 1.6 flywheels one piece including teeth, or are the teeth always on a ring that gets fitted to the centre. I had a look last night and I cannot see any seam or join whatsoever.

I cannot find any confirmation of this, but my memory (which may not be reliable) says yes, that is the case, although I suspect it is not "1.6 flywheels", but "some (early) 1.6 flywheels". In this case the procedure is to turn the damaged ring gear off in a (large) lathe, leaving a correct diameter seat for the ring gear, and proceed exactly as for replacing a separate ring gear. This will require getting information as to exactly what diameter is required, and best done by an engineering firm that knows what they are doing!

[gromit]

I cannot find any confirmation of this, but my memory (which may not be reliable) says yes, that is the case, although I suspect it is not "1.6 flywheels", but "some (early) 1.6 flywheels". In this case the procedure is to turn the damaged ring gear off in a (large) lathe, leaving a correct diameter seat for the ring gear, and proceed exactly as for replacing a separate ring gear. This will require getting information as to exactly what diameter is required, and best done by an engineering firm that knows what they are doing!

We had to measure & work out the correct diameter when making the flywheel for my Isuzu C240 motor.
Ring gear was removed from a flywheel by the previous owner. I had to borrow a very large micrometer to check the area where the ring gear fitted to get the correct interference fit. Fortunately a friend who runs an engineering company could loan me measuring equipment and accurately measured the inside of the ring gear for me.

After heating in the covered BBQ the ring gear 'fell' onto the flywheel which initially concerned me.
It works perfectly.


Colin

[jedwards]

I had mine replaced in Perth, at the same time as they reskinned the face. You should have no issues finding someone local in NSW to do it.
good luck
Jeff