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Discomat
2nd August 2023, 06:04 PM
I’m trying to get my dads old county up to rwc condition asap. Still has a lot to go.
But I dropped the drivers seats off to the trimmers this morning and basically got told not to bother. Seat base foam non existent needs all new foam and re- trimming. But the biggest issue is missing the retaining sections that hold the base in and the slides are rusted seized.
Is there another off the shelf adr seat that has removable bases to access battery box?

p38arover
2nd August 2023, 07:16 PM
Probably out of the ball park [bigwhistle]

Front Seat Set, 4x4 Perentie, Isri, PAIR - HYG757678 (https://klr.com.au/store/specials/front-seat-set-4x4-perentie-isri-pair/)

But I wonder if these would work:

Perentie 6x6 Seat Runner (Left Hand) - HYM877 (https://klr.com.au/store/land-rover/perentie-and-110/interior/seats-belts/perentie-6x6-seat-runner-left-hand/)

Perentie 6x6 Seat Runner (Right Hand) - HYM878 (https://klr.com.au/store/land-rover/perentie-and-110/interior/seats-belts/perentie-6x6-seat-runner-right-hand/)

JDNSW
3rd August 2023, 06:46 AM
Seats and bases are essentially the same up to at least 2006, so there ought to be a few about. The foams and upholstery as well as seat bases I think are still available from Exmoor. Sounds a bit as if you need a different trimmer.

p38arover
3rd August 2023, 08:59 AM
I was talking to Brad at KLR this morning and he suggests maybe AYM769 on their website.

DazzaTD5
3rd August 2023, 09:12 AM
*Exmoor Trim do rebuild kits for 110/county/Defenders.
*There is a thread here that covers this.
*110/county/Defender seats are the same (except the one piece back with headrest versions, recardo etc)
*Defender TDCi (2007 - 2016) back rests are different, bases are the same.
*Defender TDCi (2007 - 2016) seats are a nice upgrade (i fitted a set to my Perentie and my Dad's Defender TD5)
*(Perentie seats are completely different)

*seat base frames are the same across the range of 110 county/Defender (EDIT from 1987 on wards)

JDNSW
3rd August 2023, 11:52 AM
No. A significant difference was when the later doors were introduced in 1987, the seats were moved inboard about an inch, and changed from two mounting bolts at each corner to one. But otherwise fully interchangeable, as you say. I fitted the later seats to my County with adaptors consisting of a flat piece of 8mm steel with three holes, the centre one tapped (needs another hole drilled in the seat box).

DazzaTD5
3rd August 2023, 01:32 PM
No. A significant difference was when the later doors were introduced in 1987, the seats were moved inboard about an inch, and changed from two mounting bolts at each corner to one. But otherwise fully interchangeable, as you say. I fitted the later seats to my County with adaptors consisting of a flat piece of 8mm steel with three holes, the centre one tapped (needs another hole drilled in the seat box).

and I sat there and thought "oh ok... its prolly a series 3 seat base then"

Sure enough, it is. The 110 county really was the odd one in the whole 110 Defender life, its makes it so difficult to source some 110 county parts such as the lift up door handles (that dont have lift up handles on the inside), heater box, dash parts on air con models etc.

JDNSW
3rd August 2023, 04:25 PM
Very early 110 Countys had the same seats as the Series 3. Later ones went to seats as described above, with the small change in the frames when the doors changed to pushbutton. Steering wheels also shrank at the same time. Both because of the thicker doors. Very early 110s had the same doors as the Series 3.

Just to clarify for those not already aware.

The Landrover Series 3 was followed in 1983 by the Landrover 110, and a couple of years later, by the Landrover 90. In 1989, with the introduction of the Discovery, the name "Landrover" was repurposed as a marque name not a model, to cover the Discovery and Rangerover as well as the Landrover. This meant that a new model name was needed for the Landrover, and the name "Defender" was selected, at the same time as the new 200Tdi engine, introduced for the Discovery, was fitted.

The term "County" is a trim level, which has been used on several different Rover (Leyland?) models, including Rangerover and Landrover. Because a large proportion of the 110s built in Australia were County trim level five door wagons, with the term "County" in 15cm high letters on the front doors, it became customary to call all 110s "County" when it was necessary to distinguish them from the later Defender. (The 90 was never built or sold in Australia until after the Defender appeared, although a few personal imports were seen.) The Australian production comprised five door wagons, two door utes, two door cab/chassis (or trayback), extended wheelbase cab/chassis, 6x6 trayback, 6x6 cab/chassis, and a limited run of dual cab utes. The only engines available were the V8 and the Isuzu diesel. In addition, there were the military 4x4 and 6x6 versions.

p38arover
3rd August 2023, 04:28 PM
Re lift up door handles, do Perentie 4x4 fit? (Not 6x6 which appear to be Defender push button doors.)

JDNSW
3rd August 2023, 05:45 PM
I suspect not - I think they will probably be the same as the Series 3 antiburst ones. They do not have the remote handles, do they?

The early 110 ones are probably available from the UK I suspect if you check around all the suppliers.

Don 130
3rd August 2023, 08:17 PM
Have a fossick through the spares here (https://linktr.ee/AFM_AuctionIntel?utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram&utm_campaign=ex-military+vehicle+parts). You might get lucky. There were some Perentie seats in the last auction

Don.

DazzaTD5
4th August 2023, 09:01 AM
Re lift up door handles, do Perentie 4x4 fit? (Not 6x6 which appear to be Defender push button doors.)

no as the 4x4 Perentie has the lift up handle on both sides of the door, early 110 (civilian or county) have the lift up handle on the outside only.
6x6 have later Defender doors.

nobody from what I have searched (for many a year) make the early 110 lift up handle on the outside lock.
SP in the u.k make the early doors but not the lock assembly.

DazzaTD5
4th August 2023, 09:08 AM
Finding and fitting Defender seats in any form be they early Defender (200, 300, td5) or later (TDCi, puma) are readily available world wide both as new or used.

Perentie seats use the bolt holes in line with Defender, as noted, one bolt hole on each corner.
As mentioned I fitted later TDCi Defender seats to my Perentie and they bolted straight up.

So fitting Perentie seats to a early 110 (again, with the already mentioned 2 bolt holes on each corner) will require new holes and mounting plates.
So working on that I would rather any Defender seats over Perentie seats which are grossly expensive to buy and refurb.

**of course the big question for the OP... Is their 110 County an early 2 bolt hole or a later single bolt hole?

DazzaTD5
4th August 2023, 09:19 AM
if it was me i'd just get a pair of any Defender seats with bases, re-drill the holes and plates if the 110 is an early one and if asked where are the seats from simply say they are standard Land Rover 110/Defender seats.

there wont be any adr on the individual items that came from the factory. your VIN plate simply says that the vehicle was manufactured to adr compliance.

akelly
4th August 2023, 04:21 PM
Talk to the guys at TR Spares, I got a replacement seat for my defender off them - about $700 and it's in very good nick. You will struggle to find anything cheaper that's any good, I looked for years.