Turbo replacement?

[Tins]

Couple of mentions today of failed turbos, which prompts the question: what do you replace it with? The options are numerous, and the prices vary wildly.
Mine is ok for now, but.. A few years back I got a cartridge for the 300TDi from TurboRebuild I think it was, in the UK. Seemed ok. In my case I wouldn't be looking for anything radical, just something to go with the tune I hope to add at one point. Budget is a bit of a consideration for me.
What's the general consensus?

[Epic_Dragon]

I've been looking into this too lately as think my turbo is tired or seals worn.
The VGT turbos sound cool but unsure if that would be cruel for the old girls 435000 plus kms. Also budget [emoji23][emoji174]
Conclusion is, going to just re-core current turbo to keep as budget friendly as possible.
If the day comes I need to rebuild or replace the motor, then I'll make an awesome one that goes even more zoom zoom and maybe a vgt then or something. Hopefully that is a very very long time away and have saved up for such a time

[Kaaaiju]

I have used and installed about 17 td5 hybrid core turbos for people and they are fantastic

that’s from turbo uk

[Discofender]

Replaced my hybrid core std Garrett with a VGT 2 years ago, best mod I have done. Td5 now drivable with the modern traffic and bags of power off road. I had only fitted the hybrid core 2 years early..... couldn't really notice any change to lag or power with it over standard.

Discofender

[Epic_Dragon]

Do you think a vgt turbo mod a good or bad idea for a 400000kms plus motor? I'm not sure if they help it be happier or if they make it work harder?
Replaced my hybrid core std Garrett with a VGT 2 years ago, best mod I have done. Td5 now drivable with the modern traffic and bags of power off road. I had only fitted the hybrid core 2 years early..... couldn't really notice any change to lag or power with it over standard.

Discofender

[Kaaaiju]

Do you think a vgt turbo mod a good or bad idea for a 400000kms plus motor? I'm not sure if they help it be happier or if they make it work harder?

Engind would be ok but if you had a auto might not last, I killed a built 22 with a s208

[laney]

Would a manual with a stage 2 map hold up to a vgt turbo.

[shack]

There seems to be some confusion regarding turbos.

A different turbo on your car, such as a VNT, won't really make much more power than a stock one (if any).

It will however sightly improve efficiency and driveability and lower EGT, but ultimate output really depends on the tune you are running.

I'm not saying a turbo upgrade isn't worth it, just that there is much more to the story.

A VNT turbo is just as safe as the stock one, it will have less lag and a slightly flatter torque curve, but again.. That is governed by the tune.

They are better for towing, as they can hold aircharge figures for longer at lower EGT.

If you get a better turbo AND a tune, that changes things, then you can stress other parts of the drivetrain.

[discorevy]

Engind would be ok but if you had a auto might not last, I killed a built 22 with a s208
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I'd be taking the Auto back to whoever built it, the ones I have fitted to Auto's haven't had any dramas, but.... they're all running V8 torque converters.


Would a manual with a stage 2 map hold up to a vgt turbo.

Relevant info for O.P. (Tins) as well

The VGT is only part of the equation, it needs a map to specifically suit the VGT, along with a decent intercooler and if Auto, then a Lower stall torque converter such as a V8 one, I choose the V8 one over a lowered stall TD5 one because.

1: it's more efficient
2: It has a larger surface area for the lock up clutch.
3: 4 bolt Flex plate instead of the 3 bolt TD5
4: Never had a broken flex plate with the Ashcroft HD kit.

If you bolt on a VGT with a remap suited to a fixed geometry turbo ( factory or hybrid ) you won't realise the potential gains.
It'll work but you will be disappointed.

If you are keeping the factory torque converter stall speed, then go with a hybrid or even the Turbo rebuild U.K. improved CHRA in which case you could keep your existing remap if you wanted, though it's always best to have it correlate with the hardware.

If you have a manual then together with a good VGT remap and efficient intercooler, a VGT is a vast improvement, especially in the low and mid range, where most spend 95% of the time, top end is still better than factory.

[shack]

Were you copying off my sheet Discorevy?

You added some of your own herbs and spices too, so I guess that makes it ok!

Cheers

[discorevy]

Were you copying off my sheet Discorevy?

You added some of your own herbs and spices too, so I guess that makes it ok!

Cheers

Didn't see your "sheet" until I just came back to this, I get distracted a lot[biggrin]

We tend to read off similar sheets sometimes, but I could be more on the Hardware side.

Besides, you could use this, because you know you want to fit all this Auto and VGT stuff to the new 130, it's relevant to the "24" as well

[Kaaaiju]

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I'd be taking the Auto back to whoever built it, the ones I have fitted to Auto's haven't had any dramas, but.... they're all running V8 torque converters.



Relevant info for O.P. (Tins) as well

The VGT is only part of the equation, it needs a map to specifically suit the VGT, along with a decent intercooler and if Auto, then a Lower stall torque converter such as a V8 one, I choose the V8 one over a lowered stall TD5 one because.

1: it's more efficient
2: It has a larger surface area for the lock up clutch.
3: 4 bolt Flex plate instead of the 3 bolt TD5
4: Never had a broken flex plate with the Ashcroft HD kit.

If you bolt on a VGT with a remap suited to a fixed geometry turbo ( factory or hybrid ) you won't realise the potential gains.
It'll work but you will be disappointed.

If you are keeping the factory torque converter stall speed, then go with a hybrid or even the Turbo rebuild U.K. improved CHRA in which case you could keep your existing remap if you wanted, though it's always best to have it correlate with the hardware.

If you have a manual then together with a good VGT remap and efficient intercooler, a VGT is a vast improvement, especially in the low and mid range, where most spend 95% of the time, top end is still better than factory.


not possible due to the warranty expiration but has a built v8 TC as well and was a weapon at 30psi but auto didn’t take it to good

[shack]

Besides, you could use this, because you know you want to fit all this Auto and VGT stuff to the new 130, it's relevant to the "24" as well

Ssshhh....

That's meant to be a secret!

[Tins]

Ssshhh....

That's meant to be a secret!

Secret weapon??