View Full Version : Why the lack of bids and the low price.
Bohica
15th March 2024, 10:40 AM
I am looking at Grays, I see this car, low kms, 78K kms. 4 days to go and only $909. What is wrong with the car? Is the low km indicative of issues?
I doesn't make sense to my D2 brain
John_D4
15th March 2024, 10:41 AM
I am looking at Grays, I see this car, low kms, 78K kms. 4 days to go and only $909. What is wrong with the car? Is the low km indicative of issues?
I doesn't make sense to my D2 brain
I’m curious, which car?
Bohica
15th March 2024, 11:03 AM
I’m curious, which car?
2012 Land Rover Discovery 4 3.0 SDV6 SE Series 4 T/D Auto 7 Seats Wagon Auction (0001-21022322) | Grays Australia (https://www.grays.com/lot/0001-21022322/motor-vehiclesmotor-cycles/2012-land-rover-discovery-4-3-0-sdv6-se-series-4-t-d-auto-7-seats-wagon)
Graeme
15th March 2024, 11:12 AM
4 days to go so no-one wants to show their hand yet.
Bohica
15th March 2024, 11:19 AM
Waahh!!! the price just jumped up to $1209.
Tins
15th March 2024, 11:37 AM
It's the way of auctions.
DieselLSE
15th March 2024, 11:44 AM
Seems to have had little use and has been serviced regularly, so could be worth looking at. Note, the VIN shows no e-diff, but it does have rear aircon which is nice. I suspect it needs a belt change and it's too much trouble for the previous owner. Would be worth calling (or preferably dropping in) to Riversdale Prestige and having a chat to the service manager. I've had no problems doing this in the past as long as you state from the outset that you aren't seeking any recommendations, just looking for info to help with your decision. You're looking for service items like fluid changes, timing belts done, brake fluid changes, that sort of stuff. Ask if they'd be happy to continue servicing the car and if you seem to be getting along OK, ask whether they would buy it.
DazzaTD5
15th March 2024, 01:10 PM
As others have said, 4 days left it will likely end up going for higher than retail.
if you save the pic of the front view and open it up zoom to the windscreen, the scribble from what I can see says "engine smoke"
scarry
15th March 2024, 01:14 PM
if you save the pic of the front view and open it up zoom to the windscreen, the scribble from what I can see says "engine smoke"
That is the answer to the OP's question.
V8Ian
15th March 2024, 01:21 PM
Looks like a deceased estate, could be a repo, but Grays is probably not the best place for getting a good price, if disposing. Appears the executer just went to the best known/biggest auction house, without any research.
Of course, all conjecture on my behalf. The frenzy will start closer to the end.
DieselLSE
15th March 2024, 02:55 PM
As others have said, 4 days left it will likely end up going for higher than retail.
if you save the pic of the front view and open it up zoom to the windscreen, the scribble from what I can see says "engine smoke"
You're right. Engine smoke Exhaust noise
Cambo_oldjaguar
15th March 2024, 03:09 PM
Auctions, especially Grays, are where you offload problem cars.
No warranty
No cooling off
No refunds
No care taken
It’s there because it’s stuffed.
PerthDisco
15th March 2024, 03:32 PM
Auctions, especially Grays, are where you offload problem cars.
No warranty
No cooling off
No refunds
No care taken
It’s there because it’s stuffed.
I’ve bought two cheaper cars (both Subaru) from Grays. You can visit and start the car and drive forward back / hit brakes and have a good look over. They don’t in any way restrict you. I always take a scan tool as well. So you can check a lot and bid accordingly with regard to AC operation, gearbox, windows and engine fluids and noises.
The cheaper older cars are typically trades the dealer doesn’t want anything to do with.
First car had a large oil leak was a front crank seal easily fixed and a simple AC relay fix. A big degrease and good as gold.
Second ran rough as hell needed throttle body clean and spark plugs.
A full service is always needed.
Key is to know the probable defects as there are few on an older Subaru Forester (except all leak oil at the head gasket) whereas cars with crazy CVT gearbox problems are traded because the gearbox is cooked and needs $6k which the scan tool always shows these faults and never touch it.
Many have no service / log books and no spare key I avoid these.
It’s ideal to find a bargain if you have a clue and do homework. And don’t get caught up in the bidding frenzy.
The SDV6 would need thorough in person checking with a Gap Tool to eliminate crank but otherwise could be an absolute steal if just cracked manifold or turbo issue.
Cambo_oldjaguar
15th March 2024, 08:19 PM
Grays yard in Arndell Park is 15min from me, for a while I was checking out what they had and would go down for a look at anything interesting.
There were a couple of 5.0SC Range Rover Sports & a Vogue, a TDV8 Vogue, a couple of Jags, so I'd go down there with a scan tool to see if they were worth a bid.
I eventually gave up looking because every single car was knackered, engine problems mostly.
One of the 5.0SC Sports sold for more or less retail price, interstate buyer who probably never had it inspected. Then mysteriously it was back again, it sold again for a silly price, a month or so later it was back again.
I know exactly why because the engine had more rattles than a millionaire baby. But Grays kept described the car as "good condition" and "engine runs" etc...
I've had a couple of people turn up here, "just bought this at auction but the check engine light is on"
From Grays of course... one SDV8 L494 with blown head gaskets and the radiator overflow full of oil. That guy wanted to go full legal on them, I don't think he got his money back. He let slip the end price it was not far off retail.
Another one a 3.0SC Jag F-Pace with a sump full of petrol from leaking high pressure pumps. Never heard from that guy again but safe to say he did his dough on it.
The penny finally dropped when I was checking out a D3 for a local yard they had just got in as a trade, transmission was knackered, air suspension compressor knackered, a few other things needing attention as well, I gave the head honcho a rundown of what was needed to put it right, he says "f&%k that, we'll send it to Grays"
I wouldn't buy anything from them unless it was CHEAP, and I mean really cheap.
Cambo_oldjaguar
15th March 2024, 08:49 PM
Oh and if you've got time on your hands, have a look here Log in to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/auctionsgrays/)
PerthDisco
15th March 2024, 10:55 PM
Grays yard in Arndell Park is 15min from me, for a while I was checking out what they had and would go down for a look at anything interesting.
There were a couple of 5.0SC Range Rover Sports & a Vogue, a TDV8 Vogue, a couple of Jags, so I'd go down there with a scan tool to see if they were worth a bid.
I eventually gave up looking because every single car was knackered, engine problems mostly.
One of the 5.0SC Sports sold for more or less retail price, interstate buyer who probably never had it inspected. Then mysteriously it was back again, it sold again for a silly price, a month or so later it was back again.
I know exactly why because the engine had more rattles than a millionaire baby. But Grays kept described the car as "good condition" and "engine runs" etc...
I've had a couple of people turn up here, "just bought this at auction but the check engine light is on"
From Grays of course... one SDV8 L494 with blown head gaskets and the radiator overflow full of oil. That guy wanted to go full legal on them, I don't think he got his money back. He let slip the end price it was not far off retail.
Another one a 3.0SC Jag F-Pace with a sump full of petrol from leaking high pressure pumps. Never heard from that guy again but safe to say he did his dough on it.
The penny finally dropped when I was checking out a D3 for a local yard they had just got in as a trade, transmission was knackered, air suspension compressor knackered, a few other things needing attention as well, I gave the head honcho a rundown of what was needed to put it right, he says "f&%k that, we'll send it to Grays"
I wouldn't buy anything from them unless it was CHEAP, and I mean really cheap.
That is the art. Do research and don’t pay more than your limit.
There’s a sucker born every day.
For a LR product the risk factor would be sky high
Tins
16th March 2024, 02:40 PM
There’s a sucker born every day.
One is prepared to pay $12.5 K for it with three days to go. Oh yeah, plus 7%.
DiscoJeffster
16th March 2024, 02:42 PM
One is prepared to pay $12.5 K for it with three days to go. Oh yeah, plus 7%.
They haven’t seen the windscreen.
The issue here is, why is the information on the windscreen not written on the advert? This is why they continue to be considered dodgy.
Tins
16th March 2024, 02:45 PM
They haven’t seen the windscreen.
The issue here is, why is the information on the windscreen not written on the advert? This is why they continue to be considered dodgy.
Pictures form part of the description?? Agree, dodgy as. Good for a bargain if you are willing to do the homework and take the risk I guess. I'm not.
TonyC
16th March 2024, 03:18 PM
So 78k km and serviced regularly, and blowing smoke and exhaust noises, what ever that means.
So what's happened to it, broken crank? Or stolen and joy riden, or is that joy rided, or rideed☹️ where's Ron when you need him?
Or all gummed up from lack of use, and just needs a 3.5 tonne van on the back and a run to Darwin at the speed limit!
Tony
Tins
16th March 2024, 03:25 PM
where's Ron when you need him?
I'm here. Ridden, perhaps? Rode, possibly....
I think it would be one for our crazy German couple.
TonyC
16th March 2024, 03:29 PM
I'm here. Ridden, perhaps? Rode, possibly....
I think it would be one for our crazy German couple.
What the conundrum of the English language, or the broken Land Rover engine?
Tony
Tins
16th March 2024, 03:39 PM
What the conundrum of the English language, or the broken Land Rover engine?
Tony
Christian for the latter, Vera the former.... OMG.
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