For all you perentie lovers

[DirtyDawg]

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[Rosco]

Regarding these beasts, does anyone know which part of the body in particular is stretched to accommodate the additional 200mm in track?

They obviously could be wider down the middle, but don't exactly look like that is the case.

[Dinty]

G'day All, Only having a passing interest in these vehicles (cause I reckon I could be dead before they are released (more likely crushed)), from memory the chassis is wider in the rear section from behind the where the fuel tanks are mounted, I dont have any pix but thats where I seem to remember that was the difference to allow the spare wheel to be underslung, but Tony who is a user of this site possibly would know much more detail than me and whats more could have pix of same, I do remember seeing some pix in the old AULRO site in someones gallery, they were shiny gal and stacked about 4 maybe 5 high near a perimiter fence obviously a military facility anyway cheers for now Dennis:wasntme:
PS what was in the first post I couldn't see anything??

[DirtyDawg]

Link works fine, its a perentie for sale here in the west

[DiscoDave]

Holy steelwork Batman! Is there a Land Rover under all that? :o

[OLR-067]

From memory this one has been around for awhile.I think he had $150,000 on it originally, then to 90 000...etc. It's was advertised in 4x4 trader about 5 years ago. Had also a few Hummers.


Cheers

OLR-067

[LandyAndy]

Hi guys
That belongs to my mate,Trevor the auto elec from Narrogin.He belives it is a Perentie but I dont think so,it isnt the full width of the Perenties.I think it is a civilian version.
It was built for a trip thru the Kimberley,no exspense spared.It is amazing to look at,there are 2 seats in the rear and heaps of storage.Trevor bought it already converted.
If anybody wants to speak direct to Trevor I can give you his number.As far as I know he has it up in Perth on conignment.
Andrew

[Bytemrk]

I'm sure I saw that for sale some months ago... maybe even 12 or so...


Andy has only had it a short while or has he been trying to sell if for some time?

Mark

[Blknight.aus]

I want it I need it I gotta have it..









SWMBO said no... :(

Dave

"In a Landrover the other car is your crumple zone."

[scrambler]

More pics at

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle'vehicle_id=3118429&current_rec=2&used_rec=0&total_rec=4&sort_type=&total_rec=4&sort_type=&make_id=18&model_id=2491

I don't have a SWMBO, but I don't have the money either. Does look good, even if not the "genuine article."

Steve

[LandyAndy]

Hi Mark
Trevor has had it for quite some time,he has tried to sell it on ebay and also where it is now.
Its had over $150 grand spent on it,the equipment list is HUGE.Just a few things I remember.3.9turbo isuzu,3 diff locks,mcnamara or similar axles all round,front and rear warn winches,total custom cab-all checker plate with expensive gauges,air bucket seats in the front,roll cage,gps,uhf and CB,sat ph??,rear motorbike carrier,alloy bog mats,roof tent,3 long range fuel tanks,water tank,heaps of big spotties,enourmous storage area and single beds.
4 adults could travel comfortably,all thats needed is a big mofo of a boat to tow behind it.
Andrew

[Pedro_The_Swift]

yea,, I've got pics of that from years ago,,

its a lot of truck,,,,:eek:

[rar110]

it looks like the civi version as not wide body.

may be it was bought by the army as a trial vehicle. the compliance plate should state "military 6x6" if ex-army.

perentie or not it is a lot of truck. probably reasonable value, good alternative to other campers on the market.

[barney]

this is the genuine article allright, a genuine 6x6 defender. it's not a perentie. the only perenties around that i know of are the LRPV that was at the expo this year and the white dual cab that was at lastyears expo. all the rest have seen or are in service with the miltary.
the perentie has a wider chassis, wider cabin, higher roof as in the attached photo.498


whereas this one i saw in gosford, although you can't see the width of the cabin, you can see the height compared to the prototype

499

[Bytemrk]

That must have been where I've seen it Andy...

I'd love a toy like that... but not sure I have the time to use it:mad:



And besides... I am sure I'm not brave enough to try and get it past SWMBO at the moment....:whistling:

Mark...

[dobbo]

I have seen pictures of it before, years ago but cannot think of where. It must of been in a 4wd mag some time ago

[BigJon]

I wonder how much it weighs? It has more bling hanging off it than a Phillipino Taxi:) .

[barney]

I Reckon It'd Be Pushing Close To 4.5 Tonnes

[JDNSW]

this is the genuine article allright, a genuine 6x6 defender.

I hate to be picky, but it certainly is not a Defender - the door handles alone give it away. It is a pre-Defender 110 6x6 as sold in Australia in the mid eighties. Drive train and rear suspension are the same as the Perentie 6x6, as is the 4BD1T engine, but apart from that (and a few other minor mods such as the extended chassis and four pinion front diff) it is a standard 110 cab/chassis.

But definitely not a Defender.

John

[barney]

NOW THAT'S WIERD, I ACCIDENTALLY TYPED THAT LAST MESSAGE IN CAPITALS AND SUBMITTED IT BEFORE I REALISED IT, BUT THE SYSTEM REDUCED IT FOR ME TO JUST CAPS AT THE START OF WORDS.
THAT'S PRETTY COOL:eek:

[barney]

yes, you're completely right, but given that wheelbase, it would not be a 110 or a oneten. it would be closer to a 127 wheelbase i spose!

[hiline]

i have a heap of pics of this truck :D :D

i'll try and put some up for you all :eek:

[JDNSW]

yes, you're completely right, but given that wheelbase, it would not be a 110 or a oneten. it would be closer to a 127 wheelbase i spose!

Yes - but they were still called a 110, same as the Perentie 6x6s. They are covered in my owners handbook - Australian supplement. And I'm not sure how you describe the wheelbase of six wheeled vehicles anyway - if you go to the front and rear-rear axles I guess it would be round 140-150" rather than 127, as the extra axle is more than a wheel diameter (say 31") further back.
John

[hiline]

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:D :D i done it

[rick130]

IIRC, the chassis difference on the 110 Perentie was only at the rear. The rear of the chassis was chopped where it goes over the axle and taken straight back, not dropped down and back. Width was standard.

I've seen the bare chassis, HD front diffs, etc up close and personal, but I wasn't into Landy's back then, so can't really recall too much else.

one 6x6 chassis was set up on a chassis twister/cycling machine to work out the fatigue life of body/chassis mounts in a mates workshop, as was a 4x4 chassis to fit a rear anti-roll bar, and diffs, etc. This was for ADF via LRA. I used to have to walk around the bloody things all the time working on race car bits and pieces. Mark didn't have much time for the BAe built ones (in Adelaide). He reckoned too many corners were cut/compromises made compared to the original JRA manufactured lot.

[DirtyDawg]

Rick if there the same width why do the army ones have a 50mm-70mm space between the grill and the headlight surround and the Defenders only about 10mm..they look wider . I have spent some time in and around them and I was positive they are wider.:confused:. I'll have to take a trip down to the Regt and take my tape.

[JDNSW]

IIRC, the chassis difference on the 110 Perentie was only at the rear. The rear of the chassis was chopped where it goes over the axle and taken straight back, not dropped down and back. Width was standard.

I've seen the bare chassis, HD front diffs, etc up close and personal, but I wasn't into Landy's back then, so can't really recall too much else.

one 6x6 chassis was set up on a chassis twister/cycling machine to work out the fatigue life of body/chassis mounts in a mates workshop, as was a 4x4 chassis to fit a rear anti-roll bar, and diffs, etc. This was for ADF via LRA. I used to have to walk around the bloody things all the time working on race car bits and pieces. Mark didn't have much time for the BAe built ones (in Adelaide). He reckoned too many corners were cut/compromises made compared to the original JRA manufactured lot.

I'd be surprised if the front chassis on the 6x6 Perentie was standard width - the (steel) cab is wider as are the axles and mudguards, so I would be very surprised if the springs are not wider set at the front and hence the chassis rails. The 4x4 is standard width, but the chassis is modified at the back to accommodate the spare under the back, inside the chassis - from the spring mounts back as you suggest. As mentioned above though, the civilian 6x6 has a standard width chassis and axles (probably the original design but widened at the army's request, mainly to accommodate three fully equipped soldiers across).
John

[rick130]

Yes, the cab is definately wider, really can't remember how different the 6x6 chassis was at the front.
As I said, I was a Jeep man back then, this was ten years ago and he had a race car engineering shop, just that JRA pestered him to do a bit of work on this stuff on the side, as they knew he had the gear and he knew the vehicles.

I haven't spoken to Mark for ages, maybe I should give him a call and ask, he was one of the engineers responsible at JRA so he should know :D

[Rosco]

Army 110's have a track of 1498mm front and rear. Army 6x6's have a track of 1698mm front and rear. 6x6 Wheelbase .. front to intermediate axle 3040mm, front to rear axle 3940mm.

[JDNSW]

Army 110's have a track of 1498mm front and rear. Army 6x6's have a track of 1698mm front and rear. 6x6 Wheelbase .. front to intermediate axle 3040mm, front to rear axle 3940mm.

Ah! Someone with a book (or a tape measure?). I note the 6x6 has the front axle about ten inches further back than the standard 110 - I wonder if the civilian 110 6x6s do - my guess is they are probably the same wheelbase as the military ones.

John

[rick130]

bloody hell, 200mm is a lot.

Do you reckon the RTA would notice my front end was 8" wider if I scored one ? :lol2: It'd fix my dire turning circle.....:D

[Bushie]

Ah! Someone with a book (or a tape measure?). I note the 6x6 has the front axle about ten inches further back than the standard 110 - I wonder if the civilian 110 6x6s do - my guess is they are probably the same wheelbase as the military ones.

John
John,

some extra pics may help.

http://www.aulro.com/app/showgallery.php?cat=574

Most of these were taken in the mid 80's when we were testing for new vehicles we also looked at the To**ta Bungarra for those that can remember it.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/08/81.jpg

but stuck with the land rover product.

Martyn

[LieutenantRover]

Should be on its way to Kalgoorlie on Wednesday ready for Goldfields tripping.

[slipedisk]

All the 6x6's are wider than it 4x4 brother, it has the same weight measurements for local RTA rules so with the pod (with no internals fitted) on the back, 1/2 tank of fuel in 1 tank, driver, and pack gave the weight 40kgs under legal limit. It got the Turbo 4BD1 eng, power steering, but everything else is the same. They lacked power and died on hills they playied withe the exhaust (3' pipe from the manifold) to get them "going" abit. The front diff was surpose to have a neg 1 deg camber to reduse the king pin bushes ect wearing premature, they didn't, so they look from the front like a V8 Supercar. So this civy L/R would be well over legal limit. The 4x4 versions had the rear cut to allow for spare under body they had to remove the rear sway bar so the handling was compramised and they suffered alot of roll overs in the early years.

[kie4]

http://www.foleyspecialistvehicles.co.uk/index2.htm


HOW TO BUILD A 6X6
ITS EASY

[JDNSW]

All the 6x6's are wider than it 4x4 brother (snip) The 4x4 versions had the rear cut to allow for spare under body they had to remove the rear sway bar so the handling was compramised and they suffered alot of roll overs in the early years.

The civilian 6x6 was the same width as other 110s, it was not widened like the Perentie 6x6. It would have been hard to remove the rear sway bar on the 110 - it was never fitted to the majority of 110s, but was always an option except on County specification wagons. I suspect the rollovers may have had more to do with the increased performance (and better ride) compared to the Series 3.
John

[Dinty]

G'day All, I was always under the impression that the body on a 6x6 Military Land Rover were made by Jacab (Tamworth NSW) they also specialised in making Ambulance bodies for all types of applications cheers Dennis:wasntme:
PS saw a convoy of trucks and trailers yesterday, the unusaul thing I noted was that a trailer had a ARN and it was on a white background with black numerals reminicent of Sth Oz plates from the 50/60's?? anyone enlighten me with this change of style to the ARN.

[Rosco]

They lacked power and died on hills .......
Certainly did. The 110's put out 66 kW and 245 Nm for a total mass of 2300 kg. The 6x6's put out 90 kW and 314 Nm for a total unladen mass of 4650 kg ... :eek::eek:

[LandyAndy]

Hi LeiutenantRover
Did you buy Trevors 6x6????
Well worth the $$$$ he was chasing.My boy wont be happy he has been hasseling me for ages to buy it.
Goodluck with it and give us a post and pics on how it goes.
Andrew

[rick130]

The civilian 6x6 was the same width as other 110s, it was not widened like the Perentie 6x6. It would have been hard to remove the rear sway bar on the 110 - it was never fitted to the majority of 110s, but was always an option except on County specification wagons. I suspect the rollovers may have had more to do with the increased performance (and better ride) compared to the Series 3.
John
a rear OE anti-roll bar was impossible to fit on the Perentie 110, but around '96-97 LRA was contracted by the ADF into developing one for them due to the increasing number of roll overs. How an anti-roll bar was going to decrease roll overs is beyond me, but that was the ADF's answer.
Mark Hammond had a chassis mocked up in his workshop and developed one for it. The ARB ran above the chassis rails, with drop links down to the axles. My suggestion was a better shock absorber spec, (more low speed bump and rebound) but that was knocked on the head as no one would really know when they had gone off, so Mark continued with developing the rear bar.
Don't know if it was ever fitted to any ADF vehicles.

[slipedisk]

The ADF had the chassis spec made then galled if you had a look under the Mil L/R with the spare it had no room for sway bar, if you drive a civy L/R with sway bar then the Mil spec without, do a simple swerve and the body roll was amazing, early to middle 90's to combat drivers not being aware of the "roll" a conversion course was done (to educate the drivers) both with & without 1/2 ton trls on. Ask the guys who have Perenties how they handle. Don't forget there was another project veh after the Perentie.
JACAB made the pods for the Ambo's, GMV's and ERV's pods came in at around 1 1/2 ton empty so when the veh was fully loaded "gunned up" I know of one that topped the scales at 3 1/2 ton over weight, this had implications on, driver was driving a veh over weight on public roads and wheel rims were cracking and tyres coming apart (casings) due to over weight.

[LieutenantRover]

Its parked in my driveway now so if anyone has questions about dimensions etc, all I can say its awesome and a pleasure to drive.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

the AULRO PicBOT says--

"This thread is useless without PICS"

[LieutenantRover]

Heres this moning pics

[George130]

Heres this moning pics

So is it as nice in the flesh as it looked? Seems it would be a nice rig to tour in.

[LieutenantRover]

I thought the 130 was a great piece of gear but this 6x6 makes it feel like a 2a. It is absolutely beautiful to drive although you can feel the weight.

[DirtyDawg]

good luck dude, great to see it went to a good home... How many Km's on the clock? How does the wife feel about her new daily driver..:D:D:D

being an obvoius landy lover and living on the edge of the desert you should host a weekend with your local knowledge, we bash around Harvey and the like but a few of us would be keen to get away for a couple of days, leave Friday arvo come back monday after some desert driving..stay at a hotel have a few beers;) give it some thought and you could use your new "The purple Locomotive"

[LieutenantRover]

It would certainly be good to have a few visitors up here. There are some excellent camping spots very close by, and some good 1 or 2 day trips from here around the old gold towns. Some of the old pubs aren't bad especially Ora Banda and Kookynie which is only a few k's from Niagara Dam. The 6by has just klicked over 100000 km's. Engines done 50000 and the running gear 14-15000 I'm led to believe. The Missus is recovering from the shock but is better after a ride around Kal.

[spudboy]

What a beast! Looks excellent.

Reminds me of these people:
http://www.expeditionoverland.com/
who took their 6x6 around the world. It was a 2 year trip through Africa and Sth America.

Details of the vehicle here: http://www.expeditionoverland.com/the_vehicle.htm

Hope you get a lot of enjoyable Kms out of it.
David

[LieutenantRover]

Thats an interesting vehicle that the Poms went off in. I've got the monster up on vehicle stands with wheels off so that I can check it out. It needs new bushes in the rear leaf springs and an exhaust manifold gasket plus I cant get the diff locks to operate which I put down to an air leak. The chassis is galvenised and landrover to the bulkhead then appears to be constructed of 75mmx75mm square tubing, drum brakes rear and disc front. It weighs 4980kg with about 250Lts of fuel. These photos were sent to me from All Terrain in Perth.

[LieutenantRover]

As an addition heres its home and its mates

[ellard]

LieutenantRover

Quiet a toys within the shed - i am impressed alot of ex militaries.

Do you individual pictures of your toys.

Wayne

[LieutenantRover]

Fire tender looks great. There used to be one in Kalgoorlie a number of years ago but it may have been a civvie one. The volunteer FB in Coolgardie has a brand new Td5 130 fire tender as does I believe Norseman. I'll have to get pics of the Coolgardie one.

[DirtyDawg]

Wow what a shed, but seriously, you might have a fetish problem;):D:D

or shall we say a regressed addiction to a vehicular marque.. I'm a borderline case with 2 vehicles but you have the disease to the extreme...:D

That 6x6 looks soooo heavy even without the M/C on the back... what motor is in it 6.5, 7.3 diesel V8 maybe?? would be a great base camp vehicle, could live out for months at a time in the Kimberlys, fishing and shooting and with the amplimesh it looks almost indigenous proof ( I'm not sorry if I have offended the 1% of the population who contribute to 67% of the crime who are 92% of the prison population, statistics from the WAPOL website).
I will have to pop in for a looksy when next out at Kal if I can impose:).

[LieutenantRover]

You are most certainly welcome to drop in. Powered by Isuzu 4BD1T and weighs in at 4980kg. Money hungry bastards at the tip wanted ten bucks for driving over their weighbridge.(Like hell.I pay rates too)

[spudboy]

So it's basically 5 tonnes when empty? That will go up to 6 tonnes when you put a bit of gear into it.

Any idea how it goes in soft sand?

[Phoenix]

Now THAT is a shed, I want !!!!!

How are teh ambos going in their restoration?

[rar110]

why a defender with a series roof and windscreen? nothing wrong with it, tropical roof is good.

[kie4]

Think ive done it right



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[kie4]

Yes I did:D




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[kie4]

Ill try to get them on the same post next time:D



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[LieutenantRover]

WoW Re the defender with the S3 roof, I bought it cheap as a rollover. The owner didn't insure it (paid $39990) and was quoted $16000 in parts to rebuild it. I had the parts in the shed to repair it so back on the road it went. I have a new roof to with sunroof in it to pick up and a defender windscreen in the shed so it will be back to original at some time. The 6x6 has the standard width cab and front (standard rover) diff although air locker for those who were curious. There is another one here in Kal. It was originally from Newcastle and is a white dual cab with a tray back.

[LandyAndy]

Hi Lieutenant Rover
Me is not a happy man dude.
WAIT TILL I GET MY HANDS ON TREVOR.
I was in Rovercraft today,there is pics on the counter of your new toy,they new it went to Kal.They tell me the story is Trevor accepted $20 grand for the 6x6:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: as a trade on his F250,I was GOBSMACKED.No way I could of raised the $40G,but $20G would have been quite possiple.One of the guys at Rovercraft is also WILD,he told Trevor if he goes to accept a silly price there was $25G cash waiting for him.
At $40G you have a great buy,but $20G is STUPID.Next time Im over Narrogin I told the Rovercraft guy I will take a cricket bat and give Trev a couple of wacks each:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:
Andrew

[DirtyDawg]

I don't know who the bigger "A" holes are..the car dealers who take people for a ride or the "A"holes who let them:mad::mad:

[LieutenantRover]

I am certainly pleased with it, I'll be doing a trip or two that I want to do then possibly put it back for sale but not 20g. At the same time I'll keep it well maintained and with not too many km's. Once I've done my trip or trips someone else will be able to do the same. I'll pull the leaf springs out and rebush them and that so far is the only major job I can find. It will also be the safety vehicle for army cadet weekend bivouacs and a test of my willpower when I have to sleep under a hoochie next to it.

[DirtyDawg]

I am certainly pleased with it, I'll be doing a trip or two that I want to do then possibly put it back for sale but not 20g. At the same time I'll keep it well maintained and with not too many km's. Once I've done my trip or trips someone else will be able to do the same. I'll pull the leaf springs out and rebush them and that so far is the only major job I can find. It will also be the safety vehicle for army cadet weekend bivouacs and a test of my willpower when I have to sleep under a hoochie next to it. Mate we always used to have one of us sleep in our rover... only basic training dudes regulate the no sleeping Under vehicles not in them:D:D;)Where in the DFDA does it state you can't sleep in your vehicle..it only is in unit SOP's where some boofhead has mistaken sleeping Under and translated to sleeping in.
Stuff the hoochie..get a goretex bivvy bag,;)

[LieutenantRover]

Its not that its the little faces peering through the window at me in my comfort zone while their mates are taking the wheels off. I always reversed the GS up to the fire and had my head on the tailgate (pillow of course) so that I could supervise properly. Being an ex pusser I like my bed at night.

[DirtyDawg]

Its not that its the little faces peering through the window at me in my comfort zone while their mates are taking the wheels off. I always reversed the GS up to the fire and had my head on the tailgate (pillow of course) so that I could supervise properly. Being an ex pusser I like my bed at night.
Pusser...well its your "rack" then ain't it and I hope you don't "Hot bunk" anymore..:D:D...tell them it is P.O.R;)

[p38arover]

Being an ex-pusser I like my bed at night.

A mate of mine runs this website: http://www.pussersgreenies.org/main.php

Have you registered there?

Ron

[LandyAndy]

Hi LieutenantRover
The guys at Rovertech said you were into Cadets(I did think about how to type that,but dont mean it that way)
Jamo on here is the Esperance cadets leader,and my mate Baz's mum Julie is the Williams/Narrogin cadets leader.You probably know these people,small world.
Andrew

[LieutenantRover]

Julie was up here back in June.with a group so we took both Td5's for a spin through our training area. The 130 isn't bad even in a few tight spots. Just got to watch where the rear wheels are travelling and overhanging branches at roof level. I'll have to straighten a few corners to get the 6by up there though.