cant stay logged in it seems

[prelude]

I know of the troubles recently and the added layers of security added to the site but for me the site has become neigh on unusable over the years. Allow me to explain.

A couple of years ago it started and I posted about that already, that in my firefox browser I would often not be able to log in. I have a lot of privacy aware plugings in that browser that may not help but they should be perfectly useable since they are on the majority of websites.

What happens is: I log in. I get to the "lets find a gear" page, get sent to the main page aaaand I'm logged out again. I figure that this is possibly a cookie thing, not entirely sure why but I could fix it most of the time by disabling "decentral eyes" for AULRO temporarily and relogging. No longer the case. In fact I am no longer able to log in with firefox at all, whatsoever.

Since I am using a mac I have safari installed by default so I use this to open up aulro for the time being, hoping a solution will eventually be found but... Although I can log in to the site (and am presented with ads, something I have not seen in decades but hey.) I can't seem to stay logged in. I'm pretty sure that by the time I have finished typing this message I will be asked to log in... again... Fortunately the software (cookies again no doubt?) save my message and post it once I logged in again.

Does anyone else have these problems? Are the maintainers aware of these problems? Could we even hope for a fix? I am in IT myself and run all sorts of web things so please, use me as a guinea pig for testing if needed :)

Cheers,
-P

[Tins]

for me the site has become neigh on unusable over the years.

Perhaps a new horse might help?




Since I am using a mac I have safari installed by default so I use this to open up aulro for the time being, hoping a solution will eventually be found but... Although I can log in to the site (and am presented with ads, something I have not seen in decades but hey.) I can't seem to stay logged in. I'm pretty sure that by the time I have finished typing this message I will be asked to log in... again... Fortunately the software (cookies again no doubt?) save my message and post it once I logged in again.

Does anyone else have these problems? Are the maintainers aware of these problems? Could we even hope for a fix? I am in IT myself and run all sorts of web things so please, use me as a guinea pig for testing if needed :)

Cheers,
-P

Mac here as well. No, I don't have the same issue, but I stopped using Safari some time ago, and for my general use I now use Brave. No ads here either. Might be worth a go. Secure, Fast, & Private Web Browser with Adblocker | Brave (https://brave.com/)

[rovers4]

Here I use Firefox under W10, with a VPN. All was well until around ten days ago.

On this site I was continually having to log in, at every item change. Only on this site, mind. All others were plain sailing.
Then over the last 36 hours I noticed that the situation started to get better. It now seems to be fixed.

Let's hope it stays that way.

r4

[Slunnie]

Firefox and W8 with no problems..

apart from having to click the "I'm a human button" all of the time.

[JDNSW]

Firefox with Linux Mint 21.1 via Skymuster satellite - same experience as Slunnie.

[Saitch]

I've had trouble putting up photos for the last six months and now have a separate issue.

I can now post photos, but can't view most photos on the forum. One or two photos will appear as 'Photos', but the majority appear as a link to their particular thread plus '.jpeg' or whatever file format is used.
When I hover my cursor over a 'Photo' (including my own), all I get is the black box with the spinning 'Thinking' icon.
When I try to access the 'Thread Link.jpeg' style, I go to the 'Log In' site, with a message that I'm not logged in.

My 'Robot Verification' works automatically most of the time, with only a random 'Tick the Box' request.

:eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2::lol2::lol2::lol2::lol2:

All minor things in my life really, especially when you own a D3. [smilebigeye]

[p38arover]

What happens if you bypass the select a gear bit by logging in at https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[NavyDiver]

I'm having to re log in to post most of the time. Using the mid screen log in works a lot better than the headline log in to post!

Not a huge issue. It seems across the board for browsers for me with Edge, Firefox and Chrome.

[Tins]

I'm having to re log in to post most of the time. Using the mid screen log in works a lot better than the headline log in to post!



Yes. If I try to open a window/tab from scratch I get "this site cannot be reached". So I keep one open, so to speak. Brave, Safari, Firefox and Orion. However, Brave on my iPhone logs straight in after the Cloudflare malarkey.

Small price to pay to keep the site running. Just think, we could be on dial up.

[NavyDiver]

Yes. If I try to open a window/tab from scratch I get "this site cannot be reached". So I keep one open, so to speak. Brave, Safari, Firefox and Orion. However, Brave on my iPhone logs straight in after the Cloudflare malarkey.

Small price to pay to keep the site running. Just think, we could be on dial up.
Oh the Joy


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOrEVFSRdsw

[V8Ian]

Perhaps a new horse might help?

Ik will wedden dat Preludes Engels is e'en stuck beter dan jouw Hollands. [wink11]

[Tins]

Ik will wedden dat Preludes Engels is e'en stuck beter dan jouw Hollands. [wink11]

Ja inderdaad. Ik was net binnen voordat Ron dat deed.

[p38arover]

Odd.

I use Win 10 and Linux Mint 21.3 with Chrome and Firefox (both OS and browsers on my desktop and laptop), Chrome on my iPhone, iPad, and iPad Mini and never have those problems.

I've just spent wasted 10 days in New Zealand and had no issues with my iPhone and iPad Mini.

I usually login directly to https://www.aulro.com/afvb

[prelude]

haha, made me spill my tea :) Luck had it that the dutchie lines came up just on the new page so imagine my surprise :D

Anyway, @Tins I learned I new word today! and no I have not yet tried brave. It's based on chromium so -eh-. There are only 3 browser makers in the world, google (chromium), safari (webkit) and firefox (gecko). The rest is all window dressing based on those engines. Also, I used to reckon it was a small price to pay yes. But it has become quite invasive by now for me as end-user so hey, why not throw it up :)

@slunnie The funny thing is, I never have to click the I am human button. Cloudflare seems to accept that from the get go. I am offended. Calling me human! [bigrolf]

@saitch now that you mention it, viewing photo's has become quite bad as well. The hover-over pop-up function simply displays an empty load screen and the image never arrives, exactly as you described. I think there is a relation here? And yes, the site still has less issues compared to my p38 range rover [bighmmm]

@p38arover nothing, the behaviour is exactly the same. I log in and immediately get the forum main page, no longer logged in.

@navydiver oh how I mis those days mate :) Did you know there is a whole doc on the BBS on the webs for those interested.

I went to my ff browser to test the tip from p38arover and came back to safari to post a reply and I could not for the life of me find the "reply" button. Turns out, reading page one and clicking on page 2 (having a laugh) had already logged me out again. I have an old windows gaming rig which I will try in time and I'll dig out my ipad as well to see what's what.

Cheers,
-P

[incisor]

bottom line is something is playing with your session cookies

cloudflare human checking "shouldn't" affect them unless your internet security or browser security package is interfering with them.

don't see the issue with any of the browsers i regularly check on the system using a macos beta

[Tins]

Anyway, @Tins I learned I new word today! and no I have not yet tried brave. It's based on chromium so -eh-. There are only 3 browser makers in the world, google (chromium), safari (webkit) and firefox (gecko). The rest is all window dressing based on those engines. Also, I used to reckon it was a small price to pay yes. But it has become quite invasive by now for me as end-user so hey, why not throw it up :)



If the "new word" was Dutch blame goggle...[bigwhistle]

Brave is chromium based, yes, but it ain't goggle which is important to me. It natively blocks pretty much all ads, and it has a built in TOR protocol.

Not sure why, but for me Safari is hopeless. It used to be my default, and I still use it for sensitive stuff, but it is slowwwwwww.
Might be that I'm running macOS Sonoma on a 2012 Mac...

It's worth noting that goggle based chromium originally on 's WebKit, although there's probably not much of that left now. And goggle's Chrome has important differences from chromium as well. One thing all chromium based browsers do well is handle multiple open tabs.

[Saitch]

Ik will wedden dat Preludes Engels is e'en stuck beter dan jouw Hollands. [wink11]

Would I be correct in my assumption as to the source of this. [smilebigeye]

[V8Ian]

Would I be correct in my assumption as to the source of this. [smilebigeye]
You would, not a translation app. [bigwhistle]

[JDNSW]

Cloudflare is taking about 25 seconds to decide I am human. and gives me a message in red in fine print to check my connection - I don't think it likes satellite connections!

[incisor]

i tried turn cloudflare protection mode off but it took less than a minute for the place to slow to a crawl so i had to turn it back on sadly

[4bee]

I'm having to re log in to post most of the time. Using the mid screen log in works a lot better than the headline log in to post!

Not a huge issue. It seems across the board for browsers for me with Edge, Firefox and Chrome.

Now there's man after my own heart. A fellow Procrastinator.:Rolling::Thump:

[Ferret]

...What happens is: I log in. I get to the "lets find a gear" page, get sent to the main page aaaand I'm logged out again. I figure that this is possibly a cookie thing, not entirely sure why but I could fix it most of the time by disabling "decentral eyes" for AULRO temporarily and relogging. No longer the case. In fact I am no longer able to log in with firefox at all, whatsoever.

You are aware one of the purposes of Decentraleyes to block content delivery systems such as 'Cloud Flare' from delivering requested content, instead providing that requested content via local emulation.

Decentraleyes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decentraleyes) -
a free and open-source browser extension used for local content delivery network (CDN) emulation. Its primary task is to block connections to major CDNs such as Cloudflare...



...I have a lot of privacy aware plugings in that browser that may not help but they should be perfectly useable since they are on the majority of websites.

Do you also use multiple browser extensions aimed at tracking blocking / ad blocking - 'Privacy Badger, 'uBlock Origin', maybe others as well?

The developer of uBlock Origin, Raymond Hill (https://twitter.com/gorhill/status/1033706103782170625), has said previously using multiple such addons in conjuction with uBlock Origin is not a good idea.


Seriously: Do NOT use similar-purposed blocker(s) along with uBlock Origin: this will cripple uBO's ability to defuse anti-blocker mechanisms and its ability to minimize likelihood of site breakage. ("similar-purposed" = any other blocker making use of EasyList).

[prelude]

Yes Ferret, I have it all :)

Decentraleyes, greasemonkey scripts, ublock origin, adblock plus (but I use them with white and blacklisting for certain sites), an auto cookie accepter, an auto cookie deleter, privacy badger etc etc. and I intend to keep on using them since I do not feel the need to be tracked into oblivion or have my screen slathered with ad's. To my surprise most of the sites I visit simply work, even with all that active including phpbb forum sites. vbullitin or the setup chosen however does not seem to play along unfortunately.

There are many many websites that check through cloudflare so I get the "check if you are human" thingy a lot and then move on and can work with the site behind it. aulro is one of the very few exceptions and imho that is a shame but it is what it is I guess :) Can't expect admins to put too much time into a privacy minded old bugger such as myself.

However,

The fact that safari shows the same kind of behaviour, which does not have nearly as much plugin support as firefox and does not even have any plugins installed (except for my password manager) is however a bit worrying. I am not sure what is causing it but I will keep an eye on it and try to diagnose deeper when I have more time. For aulro I'll make the exception to use safari in the mean time.

Thanks for all the input and support to everyone thus far ;)
-P

[incisor]

its a constantly evolving environment as i try to ease the lock-downs but control the attacks...

i spend several hours each day trying to get a formula that is less invasive, but it isn't an easy thing to fix

the place serves 20k+ unique visitors per day and shifts about 10g of data a day via 1.5 million requests from over 180 countries

if something gets out of balance it has serious affects very quickly...

is all good fun they tell me....

[prelude]

"run a bbs/forum" they said. "it'll be fun!" they said...

I know that one :P I guess you ave it "bad" since the board is in english, let's be honest, that's how I got here as well. I figured the best place for me to hang around is in the country that tortures cars the most, they'll know best and! english is something that I should be able to manage.

My "luck" is that I run a board that is in dutch, so I get a 250K hits a day which is a lot less.

The biggest problems lately have been AI bots scraping the entire bloody site! When you check them out they tell you about copyright and how to (not) use their bot, whilst they got their data for "free" and I am footing the bill. expletive here... So I have a daytime job adjusting my robots.txt for those that respect that file anyway. -sigh-

Cary on.
-P

[Tins]

System seems to be running briskly this morning, and it appears to know I'm human without asking. Mind you, it could be wrong about that.

[incisor]

Tapatalk is back on for now….

[Tins]

System seems to be running briskly this morning, and it appears to know I'm human without asking. Mind you, it could be wrong about that.

Spoke too soon[bigsad]. (Just kidding Inc. )

190086

[incisor]

bloody tapatalk... soon as its turned on it starts generating session errors

off it goes again...

[Saitch]

Yesterday, I selected the "Remember Me" option when logging in.
So far, this has appeared to fix my issues with photographs on the forum. [thumbsupbig]

[prelude]

I still get logged out at random times in safari (which is my no-plugins browser). I wonder, what is the time-out setting for auto log-out on the board?

-P

[incisor]

I still get logged out at random times in safari (which is my no-plugins browser). I wonder, what is the time-out setting for auto log-out on the board?

-P

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