Tractor run..but for how much longer?

[spudfan]

In early June there is a tractor run scheduled to take place. I have taken part in the past....in the series 111! I know people think of the series Land Rover as a glorified tractor, but when you see some of the modern tractors there is nothing glorified about a series Land Rover. Anyway it is run to raise money for various charities. The GREEN PARTY want to ban tractor runs owing to the emissions.
Last time I joined in I brought up the rear and it was nothing to do with the fact that the tractor in front of me was being driven by a young female. I found it hard to concentrate on the distance between my bumper and the rear three point linkage on the tractor. You see it was a fairly modern tractor and she was sitting high up. The only suspension in the tractor was the seat....
Anyway like I said the GREEN PARTY want to ban these.

[4bee]

In early June there is a tractor run scheduled to take place. I have taken part in the past....in the series 111! I know people think of the series Land Rover as a glorified tractor, but when you see some of the modern tractors there is nothing glorified about a series Land Rover. Anyway it is run to raise money for various charities. The GREEN PARTY want to ban tractor runs owing to the emissions.
Last time I joined in I brought up the rear and it was nothing to do with the fact that the tractor in front of me was being driven by a young female. I found it hard to concentrate on the distance between my bumper and the rear three point linkage on the tractor. You see it was a fairly modern tractor and she was sitting high up. The only suspension in the tractor was the seat....
Anyway like I said the GREEN PARTY want to ban these.

Spud.
There is a thread running here at the mo regarding driving up the arse of a vehicle in front.

I reckon it is also a Warning to Tractor Perverts it could have been very serious if you got your Rad Panel entwined with the Linkage in front. Where would you get another genuine Rad panel to suit your Rover? Think on Spud.:Rolling:

[Tins]

Anyway like I said the GREEN PARTY want to ban these.

No surprise there. Wowsers and zealots the lot of them. They'd ban breathing if they could.

[4bee]

No surprise there. Wowsers and zealots the lot of them. They'd ban breathing if they could.


Wheeze wheeze, Wot you mean they ain't?

[spudfan]

Spud.
There is a thread running here at the mo regarding driving up the arse of a vehicle in front.

I reckon it is also a Warning to Tractor Perverts it could have been very serious if you got your Rad Panel entwined with the Linkage in front. Where would you get another genuine Rad panel to suit your Rover? Think on Spud.:Rolling:

I was thinking, but it had nothing what so ever to do with a series radiator or a tractor linkage[bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

You're a strange man Spud. I've never found tractors that interesting. [bigwhistle]:angel:

[Hogarthde]

Massey Harris tractors circa mid 1950, had a seat system named Velvet Ride.

Now Spud........ velvet,...satin... tight clothing... sheets.....

[spudfan]

Massey Harris tractors circa mid 1950, had a seat system named Velvet Ride.

Now Spud........ velvet,...satin... tight clothing... sheets.....
Cold shower time...

[V8Ian]

White, the greatest name in trucks, had velvet ride.

[V8Ian]

This may blow your frock up Spud. These blokes got under my feet, multiple times, as l passed them in both directions, as I delivered fuel to Karumba.

Trek 2006 - Tractor Trek Northam to Normanton - chamberlain 9g (https://www.chamberlain9g.org.au/category/trek-2006-tractor-trek-northam-to-normanton/)

[Tins]

Those Chamberlains are awesome. A couple played tail end Charlie on the Redex trials. We had a few in the Army. feels very weird doing 60 MPH in a tractor.

[123rover50]

You're a strange man Spud. I've never found tractors that interesting. [bigwhistle]:angel:

I have three.
A Ford 3000 diesel, a McCormick International A414 diesel I am just converting to Alternator and negative earth. and just bought a John Deere 5050E just to run my slasher. [bigsmile1] I am finding them more interesting than modern Land Rovers now.

Keith

[Tins]

I am finding them more interesting than modern Land Rovers now.

Keith

Most things are. Modern LRs are about as interesting as yesterday's breakfast.

[spudfan]

This may blow your frock up Spud. These blokes got under my feet, multiple times, as l passed them in both directions, as I delivered fuel to Karumba.

Trek 2006 - Tractor Trek Northam to Normanton - chamberlain 9g (https://www.chamberlain9g.org.au/category/trek-2006-tractor-trek-northam-to-normanton/)

Our tractor runs are a little more basic! Just lots of tractors in a long line driving a route with a refreshment break in the middle. Followed by some music.
There is a restored Massey 240 up for grabs in a raffle at €10 (16.31 Australian Dollars) a ticket. The little Massey at the corner is the one up for grabs.
The photo with the series 111 is of a refreshment stop along the way. I tagged along in the series 111.

[superquag]

Massey Harris tractors circa mid 1950, had a seat system named Velvet Ride.

Now Spud........ velvet,...satin... tight clothing... sheets.....


.... and nothing to do with the endless times betwixt sunset / sunrise,,..... white-coloured satin, with un-sent written letters...

Never thought gazing - at a Massey's back end would send anyone poetic..

.Beauty I've always missed
With these eyes before
[biggrin]

[Tins]

.... and nothing to do with the endless times betwixt sunset / sunrise,,..... white-coloured satin, with un-sent written letters...

Never thought gazing - at a Massey's back end would send anyone poetic..

.Beauty I've always missed
With these eyes before
[biggrin]

Justin Hayward flashbacks, sq?

[spudfan]

Justin Hayward flashbacks, sq?
Nights in White Satin by the Moody Blues. Justin Hayward did the lead vocal.

[Tins]

Nights in White Satin by the Moody Blues. Justin Hayward did the lead vocal.

I know Spud.

[Tins]

Something from the same period...

https://youtu.be/lbQt02_jiXY'si=pz9Osve0JAhYEUVp

[Saitch]

These beauties were at Goomeri, Qld., during the Land Rover 70th get together. From memory, travelling from Gayndah to Chermside, a Brissy suburb.

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[Old Farang]

Here you go Spud: my last restoration, which I have since sold.

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[Old Farang]

This may blow your frock up Spud. These blokes got under my feet, multiple times, as l passed them in both directions, as I delivered fuel to Karumba.

Trek 2006 - Tractor Trek Northam to Normanton - chamberlain 9g (https://www.chamberlain9g.org.au/category/trek-2006-tractor-trek-northam-to-normanton/)
One of the participants in that run ended up with my restored P6 Rover 3500 car. He had a spare wheel mounted up on top of the tractor cab, and he never would tell me how he put it up there!

[Old Farang]

This MF 35 tractor was in a tractor dealers shop in Lopburi Thailand. It was not for sale, just on display. The owner insisted that it was made in Japan, but as far as I am aware they were imported to Japan from the UK. He bought it from Japan and it has a Japanese number plate on it, and maybe it was imported to Japan CKD. Lurking In the background out on the road is my Discovery 1.

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[4bee]

This may blow your frock up Spud. These blokes got under my feet, multiple times, as l passed them in both directions, as I delivered fuel to Karumba.

Trek 2006 - Tractor Trek Northam to Normanton - chamberlain 9g (https://www.chamberlain9g.org.au/category/trek-2006-tractor-trek-northam-to-normanton/)


Wot you sayin' Ian. spud is a cross dresser?[bighmmm]

[4bee]

One of the participants in that run ended up with my restored P6 Rover 3500 car. He had a spare wheel mounted up on top of the tractor cab, and he never would tell me how he put it up there!




Easy peasy I reckon, half the local footy team & a number of Hay Bales if you is talking Tractor wheel, bro.

[bigrolf]

[spudfan]

Here you go Spud: my last restoration, which I have since sold.

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That's it. I am saving to send the Mrs over so you can work your magic on her.

[Hogarthde]

Do you want Velvet Ride with that ?

[Old Farang]

That's it. I am saving to send the Mrs over so you can work your magic on her.

Dia duit!
I be thinking that she is not old enough yet!
But anyway, if she turns out like that one, I not be sending her back! [biggrin]

[Ferret]

This may blow your frock up Spud. These blokes got under my feet, multiple times, as l passed them in both directions, as I delivered fuel to Karumba.

Trek 2006 - Tractor Trek Northam to Normanton - chamberlain 9g (https://www.chamberlain9g.org.au/category/trek-2006-tractor-trek-northam-to-normanton/)

Jebus, look at the size of the spare wheel that guy is carrying on his roof rack. That would be a gut buster, hoisting that up there.

https://www.chamberlain9g.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Jardine-River-Crossing.jpg

[Tins]

Jebus, look at the size of the spare wheel that guy is carrying on his roof rack. That would be a gut buster, hoisting that up there.

Probably why he needs the tractor....

[spudfan]

Over 300 tractors took part today. The GREEN PARTY wants to ban these. Lots of photos on their FACEBOOK page. Inish Tractor Run | Malin (https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100064874282612)

[V8Ian]

https://youtu.be/iDOXnxcjxnk'si=0b5zLoF9m7oblMv4
Different times.

[Old Farang]

https://youtu.be/iDOXnxcjxnk'si=0b5zLoF9m7oblMv4
Different times.

I would venture to say that there is at least one generation, maybe two, that have absolutely no idea of what is going on here with developing those farms! It is amazing that the footage was taken, never mind preserved!

I think that the old fellow may be a bit confused concerning the hay baler around 3.20 of the video. It may just be the sound track, but what I can make of it he is saying that the bales were wire tied.

That baler is a twine tied baler, and I beleive it is a Massey Harris 701.(not Massey Ferguson, or New Holland) It was a bit unique in that the bale was formed on edge and the knotters are mounted on the side of the chamber. The "needles" can be seen on the side nearest the camera. It was one of the first models of with a twine tied system, and self pickup baler. It also has its own engine. The early models in the UK used a single cyclinder diesel Armstrong Siddeley engine, the later models a kerosene Ferguson tractor engine. As a kid I was fasinated with the packer arm, which we called a "magpie" for an obvious reason.

Wire tied balers were stationary balers. The cut hay had to be gathered up and taken to where the baler was parked. It took at least 3 men to operate them, one to feed in the crop and two to handle the wire tie. There was a wooden board about the shape of the chamber that had to be inserted from one side into the chamber at the rear at just the right time and place that determined the length of the bale. The wire (2) had to be passed in a guide in the board from one side to the other by one of the operators, and the bloke on the other side had to join the ends together.

All this while the bale was being pushed along the chamber. And it also had a "magpie" to push the hay down into the chamber.
I can recall that at about 4 years of age my father telling me to keep away from the "magpie", as it may see me and pick me up and stuff me into the baler! He used to tell me the same thing about the old single cyclinder oil burning tractor when he was trying to start the bloody thing!

I noticed that the old fellow had a bloody great hearing aid in one ear. All of us that worked around tractors and machinery of that era now have a good excuse for being half deaf!

There are some good photos here. That one has the Fergy engine:

Massey Harris 701 - www.yellowswirl.info (https://yellowswirl.info/412695443.html)

The crawler tractors deserve a comment of their own, as does the double header tractor. [thumbsupbig]

edit: add video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vbfQduy0lU

[V8Ian]

Cut the poor old coot some slack, OF, he was 99 not out. [wink11]

[Old Farang]

I post this as I cannot find any single photos. A similar tractor was on the farm that my father was allocated as a soldier settler around 1949 in WA.
It was entirely unsuitable for a dairy farm and my father refused to accept it, and its cost of around 500 pounds, so the War Service authority took it back.

It was a HSCS, Hofherr Schrantz Clayton Shuttleworth, machine, built in Hungary as far as I know. A single cyclinder diesel that was designed to run on heavy fuel oil. There were several different models, and although I still have the serial number, I have never been able to track down any more about it. I believe it was a model 55, as opposed to a model 35. The smaller model engine was around 7 litres, and the 55 model around 10 litres displacement. It needed to be heated, as many of the similar engines of the time were, to start it. In the video you can see a portable LPG cyclinder that I guess they used to heat up the "hot bulb". I do remember my father using a blowlamp; and a strong stream of swear words trying to start it!

There is an example in a tractor museum near Perth, and one day I will go there with the serial number and see if I can find out anymore about it.
I also still have the invoice for 5 gallons of heavy fuel oil!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VF5_LVn5x_g

[Old Farang]

Cut the poor old coot some slack, OF, he was 99 not out. [wink11]

Actually, in the credits at the end it lists all of the brothers names, and when they passed away. [thumbsupbig]

[Old Farang]

Tractor run in Spudfans bog area. I think that may be him at 30.06? [bigsmile]

What are those big 4WD tractors used for Spud? MF seem to be the most popular, but a good assortment of different makes and sizes, plus some cars.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzw7QyeKbY

[spudfan]

Not me in the video, but regarding the big tractors. Some contractors use them but there are some that do nowhere near the work they were designed for. A man, since deceased, showed me a rebuilt cabless small Massey he had got rebuilt. He said that his wee tractor did more work than a lot of the big tractors running around now. The little tractor as many similar others was worked all hours in all weathers. It ploughed and towed stumps. It seems people spend on big tractors as a tax thing but they are sore on fuel.

[Tins]

It seems people spend on big tractors as a tax thing but they are sore on fuel.

And then they go on youtube bitching that dear john won't let them fix 'em.

[Don 130]

And then they go on youtube bitching that dear john won't let them fix 'em.

There are many good reasons that farmers here and elsewhere winge about not having full access to their tractors etc. example we got another green tractor and needed to shift a guidance system across to it from another, also green. The 'bend over fee' for providing code to allow the new tractor to speak to the guidance system is $7,000. Wouldn't you winge too?
Don190929

[Tins]

There are many good reasons that farmers here and elsewhere winge about not having full access to their tractors etc. example we got another green tractor and needed to shift a guidance system across to it from another, also green. The 'bend over fee' for providing code to allow the new tractor to speak to the guidance system is $7,000. Wouldn't you winge too?
Don190929

Of course I would. My comment was a response to the remark spud made about buying big tractors as a tax break. I hate all of that proprietary BS, and no right to repair. I saw today that the new CEO of Logitech is "intrigued" by the idea of a "forever mouse" that would need a permanent subscription. A mouse... Or BMW wanting a sub for the heated seats that are already fitted to the car.

[V8Ian]

I read, the other day, that BMW were dropping the heated seat sub, due to lack of popularity. They must've done the same with blinkers, ages ago.

[3toes]

Was on a clients premises during the week. Went to the break room to make a cup of coffee. There was a tech in repairing one of the vending machines. Stopped to chat and see what was happening in his world

Was repairing the new machine as it had electronics controlling it. Seems that the call out on these newer style of machines are what keeps him in a job for life. The no moving parts electronics are never built ‘tough’ enough and keep breaking down

The other vending machines were over 20 years old and mechanical. These he said were being replaced with the newer machines as they could not be updated to accept card readers for payment. It was this newer but fragile technology that ensued he had a job for life

The older mechanical machines rarely broke down so required fewer people to maintain and repair. One day someone would figure out how to build robust electronics then would be in trouble

[Tins]

One day someone would figure out how to build robust electronics then would be in trouble

The word missing here is "affordable". They already can build robust electronics if the auto industry is any example. Heck, even my 25 yo Disco still has it's original electronic everything ( says me, looking for some would to touch to appease Fate ), and not everyone would call LR the last word in reliability. Manufacturers don't want to pay for it though. All that sort of crap is now considered disposable. Your tech will have a job for a while, until they find it's cheaper to just put in a new machine, and that probably won't be long.