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Frenchie
24th August 2006, 06:22 PM
I was road raged in a big way today. Was driving along quite happily minding my own business, dual carriageway (Orrong Rd for WAAULROians), speed limit 70kmh, me in the right lane but heavy traffic so no-one is going anywhere in a hurry and I was happily keeping up with the traffic anyway. Noticed this woman behind frantically lane swapping, next thing I know she is behind me flashing her lights. Gave her the one fingered salute, she dives past in the smallest gap, gets in front of me and slams on the brakes - not the most intelligent action in a small car in front of a 2 tonne 4wd! :eek:

For the next few minutes she continues with this, speeding up, slamming on brakes, I changed lanes and so did she, I tried slowing down, so did she, she was just about climbing in the back seat gesticulating out the window. What a loony. :eek:

In the end I thought gotta get away from this mad woman, saw a gap and dived past her.

Trouble is everyone else around will probably think I was a loony in my big 4wd because I had to keep braking hard and swerving to avoid her. :angrylock:

CraigE
24th August 2006, 06:26 PM
Plenty of that in Perth. I usually make myself as wide as I can with a truck along side to slow them up. Talk to a truckie on the UHF and they will normally oblige to slow these clowns up.

dobbo
24th August 2006, 06:28 PM
You should have blown her a kiss, then when she returned with a finger make an obscene pick me up type gesture (works every time) then she'd really be peed off.

one_iota
24th August 2006, 06:29 PM
A scene repeated every day unfortunately.

Whilst my experience tonight did not involve rage it did involve a driver in a small red car weaving in and out of peak hour traffic in pursuit of vital position...after 3 to 4 km of weave, brake lights and bursts of acceleration the driver was exactly where he started..... just in front of me.

The sad thing is that we are judged by the vehicle we drive and not the way that we drive.

discoute
24th August 2006, 06:32 PM
If I have some tailgating moron behind me I start to drive like I'm drunk, gets them away from me everytime.

glen

Captain_Rightfoot
24th August 2006, 06:34 PM
A scene repeated every day unfortunately.

Whilst my experience tonight did not involve rage it did involve a driver in a small red car weaving in and out of peak hour traffic in pursuit of vital position...after 3 to 4 km of weave, brake lights and bursts of acceleration the driver was exactly where he started..... just in front of me.

The sad thing is that we are judged by the vehicle we drive and not the way that we drive.
I love driving sports cars... probably more than the fender around town. However we never take the fast car verses the fender because it makes it any quicker to get anywhere..

People that behave like that are just squandering the planets resources, and winding them up in a stress ball... it's their own loss!

stevo68
24th August 2006, 07:04 PM
If I have some tailgating moron behind me I start to drive like I'm drunk, gets them away from me everytime.

Love it, 5 mins later Im still laughing will have to remember that one, mind you not often I get tailgated, they have to keep up first :cool:

Regards

Stevo

Ralf_the_RR
24th August 2006, 07:20 PM
I get tail-gated often.
I live in the country and drive to the big smoke (Newcastle).
Country roads with very little overtaking oportunities.
I sit on the speed limit, then the hoons come up very rapidly and sit REAL close.
Solution: I slow down.
I reckon that makes them even more upset:D
Makes me happy.

dobbo
24th August 2006, 07:24 PM
I get tail-gated often.
I live in the country and drive to the big smoke (Newcastle).
Country roads with very little overtaking oportunities.
I sit on the speed limit, then the hoons come up very rapidly and sit REAL close.
Solution: I slow down.
I reckon that makes them even more upset:D
Makes me happy.

It happened to me driving to Newie about six months ago. The guy eventually pulled up next to me and started abusing me cause I was hogging the road in my bloody 4WD. I looked at him looked at the traffic lights green my way red his and a cop four cars back. I said whats up princess cant you afford one
I drove off laughing to myself.

George130
24th August 2006, 07:25 PM
I might have to try that one. I'm allways being tailgatted even when i'm over the speed limit. Currently I tend to slow down and if they still don't get the message I will tap the breaks. In the Fender I have turned on my reversing spots but that just seems to get the angrier. The funniest thing I have found is to make a point of helping the curteous drivers pass you while ingoring the death wish morons.

As for rage my wife had a guy tail gatting and continually trying to overtake but having to pull back in due to oncomming traffic. When he finnaly passed he was gesturing maddly so SWMBO gave him the bird. He totally lost it and tried to run her off the road. He then took off at speed and pulled over and tried to waive her over. In her words nothing would have made her stop by that time.

Ace
24th August 2006, 07:30 PM
Some people are just mentally retarded. We saw an incident earlier in the year where a car slowed down because the car behind was travelling to close the the car behind pulled along side and slammed them into the fence. :eek: Very nasty, best to just ignore them and try not to get involved, mind you that can he hard when they go out of their way to get at you like that. Matt

sschmez
24th August 2006, 07:55 PM
let them pass, I say:spudnikwaving: .

No use having your own safety compromised by some moron doing something stupid.

why is pi**ing someone else off so pleasurable.

are you the ones who speed up once you get to the overtaking lanes :soapbox:

Yabbie
24th August 2006, 08:07 PM
My personal favourite is the Handbrake, No lights no warnings just wait for the bang.

Especially good if you have something needing fixing at the rear of your vehicle. :)

hiline
24th August 2006, 08:13 PM
are you the ones who speed up once you get to the overtaking lanes :soapbox:

:D :D they should change the name to drag lanes ;)

Ace
24th August 2006, 08:20 PM
My personal favourite is the Handbrake, No lights no warnings just wait for the bang.

Especially good if you have something needing fixing at the rear of your vehicle. :)

Yeah but thats no good in a Landy you would rip the transmission to bits if you yanked it on at speed. :eek: Is good in any other car though.

I agree with you on the speeding up when they get to an overtaking lane trick, ****s me off to. :mad:

Blknight.aus
24th August 2006, 08:49 PM
Glad Im not the only one who gets this treatment, my solutions to tailgaters is to slow down end keep an eye on em in the rearview, when they crane their necks round to try and see past my center line hugging deefer, drop 5th to 4th let the engine do the braking till they look to the the front.

Then tap the brakes and get back on the noise pedal, Most idiots get the message first time around, plus the look on their face is just priceless almost to the point of me wanting fit a reversing camera and have it on at all times.

Ralph1Malph
24th August 2006, 09:00 PM
Hi,
I was introduced to a caper when living in sydney that in hindsight could have been very nasty.
Here's the deal.
Pull up behind someone at lights in the lane next to the turn lane. If peak hour, or morning rush chances are they will let their eyes wander and lapse concentration, Eg adjust undies, scan paper, take a mouthful of coffee, answer phone etc. If they have their heads turned away from the action when the turning lane gets to go, just give a short 'come on the lights changed' beep on your horn. Had many a sydney folk quickly press the go lever before realising a few seconds and metres later that they shouldn't have gone at all.
Funny as but in hindsight could have been tragic.

Ralph

DiscoDave
24th August 2006, 09:12 PM
My road rage incident was when I came across an infuriating trio of halfwits on the Bells Line of Road last weekend. For those that don't know it, it's a winding, hilly road with some tight bends linking Richmond and Lithgow. Single lane 95% of the way, very few opportunities to overtake unless you're in a Lambourgini or there are no highway patrol around.
Trio is headed by some woman, in a Mazda peoplemover, who has nowhere to go in a hurry and apparently a pathological fear of corners. She's travelling 15 to 20kph below the speed limit and brakes on every bend - even when it's uphill!:eek:
Right behind her is some bubble car with a bubble-head driving whose only notion of overtaking is to get as close as possible to the car in front, then maybe they will.... I don't know... slip underneath?:confused:
Third in the conga is a guy who would really like to overtake but is not sure he has the accelleration to do it so he hangs back on the bends and closes up on the straights. Which doesn't help me at all because I actually do want to get past them and if he left the gap I could have overtaken him on the first straight and had a fighting chance at the other two on the next one. But oh no! Hang back, close up. Hang back, close up. ad nauseum.:mad:
Finally an overtaking lane! Guy No.3 takes 200m to figure out No.2 is clueless and going to do nothing and eventually he pulls out and gets past them both. I'm already flooring the accelerator at this point but it's slightly uphill and my diesel disco isn't the fastest thing on an incline. ;) As Guy No.3 goes past he must have triggered something in No.2's brain and they realise that with two lanes going in the same direction they can go round the object in front of them! They pull out just quickly enough to prevent me getting in the lane and, of course, they get alongside the velocity challeged No.1 just as the overtaking lane ends. So they both slow down and come to a complete halt because they're just not sure which one ought to go first.:eek: They must be polite people. Polite people with no idea what's going on in the world around them.
Having got the Disco up to 100kph I now have to get it back down to zero fairly bloody sharply because of these brain-dead excuses for a road-user. The horn was used at some point... and for quite some time!:angel:
Strangely, I feel better now.:soapbox:

dobbo
24th August 2006, 09:29 PM
My road rage incident was when I came across an infuriating trio of halfwits on the Bells Line of Road last weekend. For those that don't know it, it's a winding, hilly road with some tight bends linking Richmond and Lithgow. Single lane 95% of the way, very few opportunities to overtake unless you're in a Lambourgini or there are no highway patrol around.
Trio is headed by some woman, in a Mazda peoplemover, who has nowhere to go in a hurry and apparently a pathological fear of corners. She's travelling 15 to 20kph below the speed limit and brakes on every bend - even when it's uphill!:eek:
Right behind her is some bubble car with a bubble-head driving whose only notion of overtaking is to get as close as possible to the car in front, then maybe they will.... I don't know... slip underneath?:confused:
Third in the conga is a guy who would really like to overtake but is not sure he has the accelleration to do it so he hangs back on the bends and closes up on the straights. Which doesn't help me at all because I actually do want to get past them and if he left the gap I could have overtaken him on the first straight and had a fighting chance at the other two on the next one. But oh no! Hang back, close up. Hang back, close up. ad nauseum.:mad:
Finally an overtaking lane! Guy No.3 takes 200m to figure out No.2 is clueless and going to do nothing and eventually he pulls out and gets past them both. I'm already flooring the accelerator at this point but it's slightly uphill and my diesel disco isn't the fastest thing on an incline. ;) As Guy No.3 goes past he must have triggered something in No.2's brain and they realise that with two lanes going in the same direction they can go round the object in front of them! They pull out just quickly enough to prevent me getting in the lane and, of course, they get alongside the velocity challeged No.1 just as the overtaking lane ends. So they both slow down and come to a complete halt because they're just not sure which one ought to go first.:eek: They must be polite people. Polite people with no idea what's going on in the world around them.
Having got the Disco up to 100kph I now have to get it back down to zero fairly bloody sharply because of these brain-dead excuses for a road-user. The horn was used at some point... and for quite some time!:angel:
Strangely, I feel better now.:soapbox:

Lemmings, quite simple just call them Lemmings

scrambler
24th August 2006, 10:12 PM
And then there's the morons who do it deliberately. Got stuck on a divided motorway behind a pair of twits who, as a game, drove 1/2 the speed limit, side by side in the 2 lanes. Did feel like driving over them, but decided the loss of life wasn't worth the pleasure. Had my kids with me, too.

Steve

DirtyDawg
25th August 2006, 05:50 AM
Tony, If some pratt does that to me I would hit them at the next speed /brake session, ram the phuker.
Last year there was a guy in a laser and myself and friend in the disco and he was driving erratically around midday so I flashed my lights at him and he gave me the finger. Silly move when you have a red light and an Irish bricklayer behind you. At the light I got out and approached his window, he wound down the window and was a guy in his 20's, he then started the verbal abuse, I was a "c" , what am I gonna do about it I was a "Fwit",I gave him a right hook to the mouth, took his keys from the ignition and walked back to my vehicle got in drove around him on green, 100m across the bridge at Fremantle harbour the keys were tossed into the channel enroute home. this insured no more idiot driving on the way home and a lesson in manners. True story as my mate nearly died laughing on the way home.
Many of you will find this extreme, blah ,blah, blah. You are what you are and I don't take kindly to idiots. The world is becoming a nasty disrespectful place and because no one stands upto it is why it is getting worse. IMO

x-box
25th August 2006, 07:40 AM
I'd say goon on ya DirtyDawg!
The roads are not a playground and idiots and pathetic disrespectful people should go home..... I was used to traffic and attitudes in Africa, but sometimes i wonder if this is any better? Especially considering that Australia is supposed to be a "first-world" country? They sure don't drive like it. Traffic here on the Gold Coast amuses me, what are they going to do when they get there first, half a minute ahead of me???

hiline
25th August 2006, 07:50 AM
funny you should mention that dirty dawg

a few years back now :eek:

some young P driver was acting rather abusive on the way home from work one night :D :D

so i thought it best he learn a lesson in road manners ;)

now me in a state of rage is not a pretty site :bat:

i walked up the his car put my hand in the window
removed the car keys and threw them on a shop roof :D :D


then turned to the kid and siad

have a nice night ;)

dobbo
25th August 2006, 07:56 AM
Tony, If some pratt does that to me I would hit them at the next speed /brake session, ram the phuker.
Last year there was a guy in a laser and myself and friend in the disco and he was driving erratically around midday so I flashed my lights at him and he gave me the finger. Silly move when you have a red light and an Irish bricklayer behind you. At the light I got out and approached his window, he wound down the window and was a guy in his 20's, he then started the verbal abuse, I was a "c" , what am I gonna do about it I was a "Fwit",I gave him a right hook to the mouth, took his keys from the ignition and walked back to my vehicle got in drove around him on green, 100m across the bridge at Fremantle harbour the keys were tossed into the channel enroute home. this insured no more idiot driving on the way home and a lesson in manners. True story as my mate nearly died laughing on the way home.
Many of you will find this extreme, blah ,blah, blah. You are what you are and I don't take kindly to idiots. The world is becoming a nasty disrespectful place and because no one stands upto it is why it is getting worse. IMO

It wrong, it's illegal and it's shocking, but I would have paid money to see it.

CraigE
25th August 2006, 08:02 AM
Oh Dear Dawg,
LOL. I still have not stopped laughing.:D
There are way too many aggresive, idiots on our roads. I had one in a new 7 series Beemer when I was trying to get my daughter to the airport to fly to Adelaide after they closed the Kwinnana Freeway to do an overpass and we were parked on the freeway in gridlock for an hour and a half. This idiot cut me off and then slowed in front of the Fender. Not a bright idea as by this stage I had had it with spastic Perth drivers, daughter was in tears as it looked like we would miss the plane (only 10 and her first solo trip to see the grandparents). So I gave him a mouthfull and then gave the Fender a bootfull and sat on his tail about 2" away form his bumper and forced him to sit on the speed limit instead of 20kph under it. After a bit he realised I had no intention of stopping for him or caring if I creased his flash new BMW. For a while he then got a bit worried as he was stuck in the same lane as me (right hand). When he did manage to pull in to a turning lane I did try to take a mirror off on the way past. Call me nasty but this sort of crap annoys me. If you dont want to sit on the speed limit do not drive in the right lane and do not come past my Fender at twice the speed limit pull in front and then slow right down. Obviously one of the anti 4wd morons. I think it disturbed him how well the Fender went in traffic.
We all get a bit of rage at times when people do the wrong thing, but most of us give a toot, maybe voice our opinions in our car and move on. This then going on and creating a driving hazard does deserve a thumping though and if I had had time this BMW driver would have got what for.
:twisted: :twisted:

solmanic
25th August 2006, 08:18 AM
Here's a trick that is the opposite of road rage but has a very amusing effect:

If someone's being a ***** on the motorway, try to position yourself in front of them at a toll plaza - then pay THEIR toll as well as yours and watch the fun in your rearview mirror. We used to do this regularly on Brisbane's Gateway Bridge (back when tolls were only $1.80 and no e-tag). The car behind was usually still at the booth trying to work out what was happening and we were over the hump. Most people just don't believe that someone would do such a thing and end up arguing with the guy at the toll plaza. Good value entertainment for $1.80 I thought.

edddo
25th August 2006, 08:43 AM
Here's a trick that is the opposite of road rage but has a very amusing effect:

If someone's being a ***** on the motorway, try to position yourself in front of them at a toll plaza - then pay THEIR toll as well as yours and watch the fun in your rearview mirror. We used to do this regularly on Brisbane's Gateway Bridge (back when tolls were only $1.80 and no e-tag). The car behind was usually still at the booth trying to work out what was happening and we were over the hump. Most people just don't believe that someone would do such a thing and end up arguing with the guy at the toll plaza. Good value entertainment for $1.80 I thought.

the unexpected,
thats a ripper

Rayngie
25th August 2006, 08:50 AM
would'nt giving her the finger be road rage in itself??

If she's being an idiot, get out of her way and let her be an idiot somewhere else...it's no skin off your nose..she's the one with bigger problems to deal with, same thing happened to me going out west of Sydney last weekend, woman driver, smoking , talking on a cellphone, overtaking on single lanes, just let her go, she'll be wrapped around a tree one day wondering " why me??"

plus we've all done it ourselelves, so can't judge to harshly.

sschmez
25th August 2006, 09:10 AM
Interestingly, we have views from both sides in this thread.

Tailgaters and tailgatees (:eek: are they real words Ron ???) and everyone thinks their actions are justified.

I too have been on both sides ...........:(

As I stated earlier

let them pass, I say:spudnikwaving: .
(They might be in a hurry to get to the airport or elsewhere)
What gives you the right to delay them or worse - all other road users in the case of an "accident"?

NO WONDER the anti 4wd lobby is so strong............IMHO (edit for YABBIE)..... think of your actions when you're sitting in your LR, are you a good rep. for the rest of us???

My diesel disco doesn't have the pick-up of most of the rest of the cars on the road, many of us don't have the handling of a sports car in the bends etc. GET OUT OF THEIR WAY.... YOU have NO RIGHT. You might even get a "toot" of thanks and a smile.

Have a look here for some ideas:
http://www.anfwdc.asn.au/docs/CODOnRoadDriving.pdf


:soapbox: :oops2: Sorry... Rant over

ATH
25th August 2006, 10:11 AM
I just let them pass whenever possible. I couldn't care less what they do, if they drive too close I slow down gradually and there comes a time when it's obvious to most of the idiots they can go past which they usually do with a bit of finger waving and I give them a cheery wave back.
If they go past then slow down to less than the limit that upsets me but I try very hard too ignore it and hope they'll get fed up and go faster.
I was abused years ago at a junction with a truck on my right hand side making it impossible to see in that direction, the bloke behind kept yelling at me and blowing his horn.
When the truck went, I went, turned left and the peanut swerved around me and then cut me up and banged on his brakes. I signalled him to pull over which he did and then jumped out of his vehicle. I got out and he shouted he was telling me it was clear to go so I politely told him I would make any decisions on the road not the bloke behind me.
As soon as he heard my accent he went ballistic, "You Pommy bastards do as you're told out here" he shouted and poked me in the chest! Hard.
I couldn't care less about the abuse but no one pokes me like that so I poked him with a beaut right hander.
I hit him so hard in the gob he literally flew backwards, hit the boot of his car and gently slid over it and bang on to the ground.
I then walked past him to pick up my watch which had flown off my wrist, looked up and at the shopping centre on the otherside of the road there was a group of people watching.

He was flat out with split lips and bleeding nose so I casually (I was feeling anything but) got in the car and drove up the pub for a few to calm myself down.
Very rarely do I get that upset and I'm now past the thumping age so I settle for ignoring them and giving a wave, hopefully that'll p*ss them off without anyone getting violent.
Alan H.

Yabbie
25th August 2006, 10:44 AM
NO WONDER the anti 4wd lobby is so strong...... think of your actions when you're sitting in your LR, are you a good rep. for the rest of us???

What a load of the stuff I'm only allowed to make reference to in the MUDPIT.

It's comments like that, that give the anti 4wd lobby the ammo they need. We as 4wd owners and drivers can't be held responsible for what someone else does in their 4wd. To think so is not only dangerous but outright
idiocy.

Sure we have our bad drivers amongst us, but to accept a label from a bunch of morons headed by Scruby, plays into his hands.

I drive for a living, I spend hours on the the roads viewing all types of drivers. Sure there are the DUMB 4wdrivers( generally those picking up/dropping off kids during schooltimes).
Being called a BAD DRIVER just because you prefer to drive a 4wd is like saying everyone who drives a Volvo is sweedish, or that all P platers are bad drivers just because they are P platers.

I see more mistakes made by older drivers( we all know the type ( I v'e been driving for 40yrs never had an accident.....caused heaps though). Sure young drivers cop it as they have no fear as most still believe they are immortal.

Everyone speeds at sometime or another be it a few K's over or alot over.
Everyone's been in a hurry to get some where on time. Theres no point in stressing out just because some clowns riding your **** (No pun intended:eek: ). Let em go be a MVA on someone else.

And if you get the chance to let them know how you feel at the next set of lights or in the carpark at Woolies then sure get out and let them know just how up set you really are.

Just don't forget to take the peace maker with you.

And remember Brakie noises are cool, especially when you make sure you got every last bit of glass.

Redback
25th August 2006, 10:53 AM
I just let them pass whenever possible. I couldn't care less what they do, if they drive too close I slow down gradually and there comes a time when it's obvious to most of the idiots they can go past which they usually do with a bit of finger waving and I give them a cheery wave back.
If they go past then slow down to less than the limit that upsets me but I try very hard too ignore it and hope they'll get fed up and go faster.
I was abused years ago at a junction with a truck on my right hand side making it impossible to see in that direction, the bloke behind kept yelling at me and blowing his horn.
When the truck went, I went, turned left and the peanut swerved around me and then cut me up and banged on his brakes. I signalled him to pull over which he did and then jumped out of his vehicle. I got out and he shouted he was telling me it was clear to go so I politely told him I would make any decisions on the road not the bloke behind me.
As soon as he heard my accent he went ballistic, "You Pommy bastards do as you're told out here" he shouted and poked me in the chest! Hard.
I couldn't care less about the abuse but no one pokes me like that so I poked him with a beaut right hander.
I hit him so hard in the gob he literally flew backwards, hit the boot of his car and gently slid over it and bang on to the ground.
I then walked past him to pick up my watch which had flown off my wrist, looked up and at the shopping centre on the otherside of the road there was a group of people watching.

He was flat out with split lips and bleeding nose so I casually (I was feeling anything but) got in the car and drove up the pub for a few to calm myself down.
Very rarely do I get that upset and I'm now past the thumping age so I settle for ignoring them and giving a wave, hopefully that'll p*ss them off without anyone getting violent.
Alan H.

This reply look familiar, i hope your not going to upset us here like you did to that bloke on ExplorOz:p :D

ALAN YOUR A GOOSE , GEE .... YOU THINK I AM IGNORANT>>>

TAKE A LOOK IN THE MIRROR!

Frenchie
25th August 2006, 11:32 AM
Please don't let this deteriorate into a slanging match.

Point of my original post is that there are some real psychos out there, or perhaps she was just having a really bad day.

Yeah I flipped her a casual finger when the best course of action would have been to ignore her, but after she went ballsitic I was trying to get out of her way and she wouldn't leave me alone, at that point it took an enormous amount of self control not to just run her off the road.

BUT - it's not worth the grief that actions like that would cause, injury, insurance woes, criminal charges etc etc.

I had the opportunity to vent my spleen, perhaps we should lock this now?

CraigE
25th August 2006, 12:12 PM
just to clarify, on the airport trip I was not speeding at all. It was I believe one of those hypocritical persons who does not like 4wd, then drives a 7 series beemer. If he wanted to sit 20kph under the speed limit then stick to the left lane or the back roads. Instead he came flying past me at a rate of knots, in an illegal overtaking move on one of those painted demarkation areas on the road that used to be traffic islands, cut me off and then slowed. These acts were deliberate not accidental and as it was I was annoyed. I am much more forgiving if it is an unintentional incident. Most people wil wave or some sort of motion as an appology and all is cool. Its the dorks that do it then give you the finger or abuse you.

Scouse
25th August 2006, 02:40 PM
How's this for road rage:

Two men charged with serious traffic offences – Kotara


25 August 2006
Two men are to face court today following an alleged dangerous driving incident in Newcastle.

About 1:40pm yesterday, a 42-year-old Kahibah man was driving a Ford Falcon station wagon when he was rammed from behind by a 39-year-old Edgeworth man driving a Holden Commodore whilst he was stopped at traffic lights.

The Kahibah man was exiting a car park into Northcott Drive at Kotara when he was hit by the Commodore.

He has driven off along Northcott Drive and the two vehicles have allegedly continued to ram each other for about 200 metres before the Holden forced the Ford to stop.

It will be alleged the 42-year-old has then reversed the vehicle against traffic in Northcott Drive heading to a car park on Bradford Close with the Commodore following. He has then rammed the Commodore before getting out of his car armed with a knife.

The two men fought before police from the Newcastle Local Area Command arrived and both drivers were arrested.

The 42-year-old suffered a laceration to his foot and was taken to John Hunter Hospital for treatment. He was later taken to Newcastle Police Station for questioning. He has been charged with disqualified driver, drive manner dangerous and custody of knife. He was granted bail to appear at Newcastle Local Court on 28 August.

The 39-year-old man was taken to Newcastle Police Station for questioning where he was charged with drive manner dangerous and other offences. He has been bail refused to appear at Newcastle Local Court today.


Probably all over a parking space !!

Jamo
25th August 2006, 03:23 PM
Funnily enough, last time I went to Perth a guy tailgated me on Albany highway and then passed me in an overtaking lane.

As soon as he got passed, he slowed to about 105kph (I had cruise set to 110kph).

I then spent the next 50 or so km having to constantly back off so I didn't get too close.

Every time we came to an overtaking lane, he would speed up to 120kph+ so i wouldn't pass!:twisted:

The vehicle: A red P38 Rangie!:confused:

jase
25th August 2006, 04:00 PM
I drive a lot as well, 200+ k's a day both around town (Melbourne) then back out of the city and to home (80ks nth)
Like you I get these clowns all too regular and while they **** you off and are idiots I don't let it bother me, one day they'll get theres probably in the form of a big accident and an ambulance ride

I always move to the left when not passing & I move left even if I am passing if someone comes up behind obviously travelling faster than me
Mind you I don't drive under the speed limit either I'm usually dead on it to 5ks over (by GPS speedo = 10-15 over on dash speedo)

I let people in if they indicate and I'm sure at the end of the day I have less stress and have lost maybe 2 minutes of my life for my courtesy and NO stress
If some clown comes up behind me and is all over my tail I move over when I can (OK sometimes when they are being a real ass I indicate then move over very slowly, no need to panic just cause they're an ass) and as they drive past I just smile and wave, sometimes if they are really going off I just blow them a kiss
Nothing makes a physco P plater pot head in a commondoor speed off like a 6ft bald guy blowing them a kiss :D

While I laughed at some of your antics (especially the keys ones) I don't condone it and would never do it
Life's to short to waste my energy getting aggro with some moron who needs a lesson Driving as well as some manors
Jase




Funnily enough, last time I went to Perth a guy tailgated me on Albany highway and then passed me in an overtaking lane.

As soon as he got passed, he slowed to about 105kph (I had cruise set to 110kph).

I then spent the next 50 or so km having to constantly back off so I didn't get too close.

Every time we came to an overtaking lane, he would speed up to 120kph+ so i wouldn't pass!:twisted:

The vehicle: A red P38 Rangie!:confused:

DirtyDawg
25th August 2006, 11:35 PM
Funnily enough, last time I went to Perth a guy tailgated me on Albany highway and then passed me in an overtaking lane.

As soon as he got passed, he slowed to about 105kph (I had cruise set to 110kph).

I then spent the next 50 or so km having to constantly back off so I didn't get too close.

Every time we came to an overtaking lane, he would speed up to 120kph+ so i wouldn't pass!:twisted:

The vehicle: A red P38 Rangie!:confused:
Obviously the "Dikhead " was jealous, mate. I have seen pictures of your D3 and I'm jealous;) I wouldn't hassle you though, but I'd be tempted to steal it:):);)

Blknight.aus
26th August 2006, 12:19 AM
Scuse the typos, grammer and spelling but its been and absolute (lots of expletive deleted diatribes here) of a day and im fairly well tanked after an invite by a few of the boys for a few, less than quiet ones....

having had a few I feel I should point out the fun i had in sydney one day driving the disco to pick up my wife from work...

Happily sitting on 45kph on parramatta road heading to sydney leaving a lesiurley 35-40 odd meters between me and the car in fron so i dint have to go heavy on the brakes/gas/clutch and gear changes in peak hour traffic the lane i was in came to an unexpected stop. quite unthinkingly i checked my mirrors, indiecated left and changed lanes.

I completely missed WOG boy in his sports crumple zone overtaking me at warp factor "is that legal?" whome i cut off, cause i didnt check the center mirror just the left wing mirror, I was after all in the right hand lane..

so fnrugle brains decided that the appropriate actgion was to then sprint his little dinky toy past me cut me off, hook on the brakes then storm, on foot, in the middle of peak hour traffic to have a his fist to my face conversation...

being the end of what was a hot long day I, being inherintly lazy, had already preselected first before he got out of the car and had one foot on the clutch and whas heel/toeing the brake/gas with my right..

nuff nuff wog boy git proceded to introduce his fist to the top of my skull through the open window (air con for some reason i cant rememer was dead), having guessed his game I simply allowed my foot to sink on the loud pedal, slide off of the brake and then as i feigned unconsiousness drop off of the clutch...

2.3 ton disco, with 3.9l v8 efi at full noise with bull bar +apparntly unconsious driver given a 10m run up can push a mobile sports crumple zone a LOOONG way down parramatta road until said mobile crumple zone hits light post and is compressed about 2 feet.

What i didnt know was 3 or so cars back was an unmarked cop car that saw, and reported the whole incident..

my court evidence...

"your honour, I have no clear recolection of the events, I do remeber having to come to a halt for a stoped vehicle in front of me but my next clear memory was of a brown haired bloke with a concerned look on his face shaking my shoulder asking me if I was alright.."

The witnesses events carried the day and I got me a freebie bull bar and vehicle inspection.

Ahhh some days I love my landrovers.... still hate idiots in sports cars tho... The liscencing system is all screwed up, I rekon you should have to be able to competenly operate something overweight, underbraked and underpowered before they let you drive a highspeed lightweight.

waynep
26th August 2006, 02:28 AM
Some of the worst road rage incients I've experienced have actually been while off road. ( guess you could call it "off road rage")

Typically this is when you are making your way at reasonable safe pace along a narrow bush track and someone ( typically a Toyota 75 series ute with a huge V8 and 35 thousand lights ) tears up and sits right up your a** swearing and cussing at you. If it's at all possible I will pull over but sometimes it is not possible so they just get madder nd madder.

I guess they think cause its off-road its free for all hoon zone. What annoys me is it's like they think you have no right to be there.

stevo
26th August 2006, 06:40 AM
years ago I was stuck behind a hilux he was traveling along this narrow track at walking pace after awhile more vehicles lined up behind he had plenty of spots to pull over and let everyone pass,we came up to a wide shallow water crossing so I stopped when he was 1/4 of the way across I went for it 3rd gear flat out passed on his right his window down he got very wet :twisted:

p38arover
26th August 2006, 06:50 AM
One problem with many drivers is the "Anyone going faster than me is speeding!" attitude.

Ron

CraigE
26th August 2006, 07:01 AM
Scuse the typos, grammer and spelling but its been and absolute (lots of expletive deleted diatribes here) of a day and im fairly well tanked after an invite by a few of the boys for a few, less than quiet ones....

having had a few I feel I should point out the fun i had in sydney one day driving the disco to pick up my wife from work...

Happily sitting on 45kph on parramatta road heading to sydney leaving a lesiurley 35-40 odd meters between me and the car in fron so i dint have to go heavy on the brakes/gas/clutch and gear changes in peak hour traffic the lane i was in came to an unexpected stop. quite unthinkingly i checked my mirrors, indiecated left and changed lanes.

I completely missed WOG boy in his sports crumple zone overtaking me at warp factor "is that legal?" whome i cut off, cause i didnt check the center mirror just the left wing mirror, I was after all in the right hand lane..

so fnrugle brains decided that the appropriate actgion was to then sprint his little dinky toy past me cut me off, hook on the brakes then storm, on foot, in the middle of peak hour traffic to have a his fist to my face conversation...

being the end of what was a hot long day I, being inherintly lazy, had already preselected first before he got out of the car and had one foot on the clutch and whas heel/toeing the brake/gas with my right..

nuff nuff wog boy git proceded to introduce his fist to the top of my skull through the open window (air con for some reason i cant rememer was dead), having guessed his game I simply allowed my foot to sink on the loud pedal, slide off of the brake and then as i feigned unconsiousness drop off of the clutch...

2.3 ton disco, with 3.9l v8 efi at full noise with bull bar +apparntly unconsious driver given a 10m run up can push a mobile sports crumple zone a LOOONG way down parramatta road until said mobile crumple zone hits light post and is compressed about 2 feet.

What i didnt know was 3 or so cars back was an unmarked cop car that saw, and reported the whole incident..

my court evidence...

"your honour, I have no clear recolection of the events, I do remeber having to come to a halt for a stoped vehicle in front of me but my next clear memory was of a brown haired bloke with a concerned look on his face shaking my shoulder asking me if I was alright.."

The witnesses events carried the day and I got me a freebie bull bar and vehicle inspection.

Ahhh some days I love my landrovers.... still hate idiots in sports cars tho... The liscencing system is all screwed up, I rekon you should have to be able to competenly operate something overweight, underbraked and underpowered before they let you drive a highspeed lightweight.
I like that (LOL)
:twisted:

Yabbie
26th August 2006, 10:28 AM
One problem with many drivers is the "Anyone going faster than me is speeding!" attitude.

Ron

I do the F3 run daily and usually sit alittle above :angel: the posted speed so therefore anyone who passes me "IS" speeding because I am:twisted: .

It's not the guy in his hotted up Plastic Rice Burner playing his Doff Doff at 400db, screaming past that scares me.
It's the guys driving 50T of B-double at 140+k's screaming down the Mooney bridge smacked off their face, that haven't sleep for days that scare me. Speed limited My ****.:o

PeterM
27th August 2006, 06:27 PM
ahhh, let's not start having this as a slanging session at truckies shall we? Stereotypes like that are about as relevant and accurate as the ones of 4wdrivers held by good ol' Scruby and co.

Re: speed limitation, yes, some drivers do tamper with them but you will find that the larger reputable companies all have them fitted complete with GPS units and if drivers speed they get fired. Simple as that. Same, same for rest stops etc. Log books are checked and with road monitoring cameras people do get caught for doing the wrong thing.

BTW, speed limiters don't work downhill. Gravity has primacy there and with 50t+ on board you do tend to get a bit of speed up. Tip - don't pull out in front of a truck.

Ace
27th August 2006, 06:43 PM
Its not trucks that scare me, i couldnt care less about them most of them are normally pretty good, the know where you are aslong as you take into mind their blind spots and make sure you stay visible. What ****s me is the small number of dipsticks that think it is ok to sit in the middle lane of a free way when the slow lane is empty and do 10km/h below the marked speed limit. I have toned down my driving of late and devloped a care free attitude to the morons around me, to further prolong my life the horn on the disco doesnt work so i cant **** anyone off to the point they might want to shoot me.

On a bad not just heard on the new that a 17yr old P-plater was killed in QLD today or yesterday after he was stabbed in a road rage incident, now that is bad. Matt

DiscoTDI
27th August 2006, 07:00 PM
One problem with many drivers is the "Anyone going faster than me is speeding!" attitude.

Ron

I use the one going faster than me as a saftey blanket, they normally get pulled over by the cops which holds them up long enough not to worry about me:D

DEFENDERZOOK
27th August 2006, 11:08 PM
im gonna build me a mad max type of bar system.......
you know.....with the big cow catcher on the front and bars all round.....


anyone under me wasnt going fast enough.......

Bigbjorn
31st August 2006, 07:30 PM
Its not trucks that scare me, i couldnt care less about them most of them are normally pretty good, the know where you are aslong as you take into mind their blind spots and make sure you stay visible. What ****s me is the small number of dipsticks that think it is ok to sit in the middle lane of a free way when the slow lane is empty and do 10km/h below the marked speed limit. I have toned down my driving of late and devloped a care free attitude to the morons around me, to further prolong my life the horn on the disco doesnt work so i cant **** anyone off to the point they might want to shoot me.

On a bad not just heard on the new that a 17yr old P-plater was killed in QLD today or yesterday after he was stabbed in a road rage incident, now that is bad. Matt

I spent much of my working life driving, cars, trucks, buses. The road users that really get up the noses of professional drivers are the people who WON'T GET GOING!!! The ones who take several seconds to take off when the light turns green or when it is safe to do so from a stop or give way sign. the ones who treat roundabouts as stop signs. The ones who take two blocks to accelerate to 40-50 ks in a 60 zone and then drive in the middle of the road so you cant overtake. The ones who pull out from a side road into a gap in a traffic stream, said gap not being long enough for them to accelerate to the speed of the stream so everyone now behind them has to slow down and bunch up. Caravanners ( known for decades to truckies as "terrorists" as opposed to tourists) who drive the open highways at 80-90ks, refuse to look in their mirrors and see the long line of unhappy motorists behind them, and have no intention of pulling over to let others past. Farmers who pull out from their side roads or gates onto a highway when they could have waited 30 seconds for a traffic stream to pass, and then drive into town at 60ks. When you think of a stop at traffic lights as being from 90 seconds to 3 minutes, then run a few of these stops together, you can understand the frustation of a courier or delivery driver who is paid per delivery, and a sales rep, to whom the missed calls as a result of missed lights caused by slowcoaches, could have meant commission. These frustating delays could mean several missed calls/drops in a working day.
So, get moving, people. Accelerate briskly to the speed limit, keep up to it as long as it is safe to do so. Keep left so tailgaters can get past. Dont make the traffic streams prop just so you can get in the first available space.

And, if you want to get out of your vehicle and go the knuckle, make sure you have not brought boxing gloves to a gunfight.

CraigE
31st August 2006, 10:50 PM
There are good and bad in all drivers and roadusers. Truckdrivers are not excepted to this, neither should they be unfairly targeted. It is the cowboys that do the damage. We were run off the road some time back by a road train coming the opposite way fast asleep at the wheel, wrong side of the road, spotties blaring so we could not see the road. We went bush hooter blaring, he kept going no apology on the CB anything. Then there are the triple road trains around here that are doing 40kph in a 110kph zone. Thats a lot of fun when you come over a hill or around a bend and there is one of these clowns on the road. There have been numerous fatalities over the years around here, when tourists who are not used to or aware of these trucks going this slow. Then there's the whipping of the dog trailers wildly onto the wrong side of the road. Does not matter how good the driver is in the last 2 situations they can and do kill people.
:mad: :mad:

DEFENDERZOOK
31st August 2006, 11:05 PM
dont they sit smack bang in the centre of the road so the camber of the road keeps it sort of central.....
rather than have it whipping around....?

HarlingtonStraker
3rd September 2006, 07:07 AM
So many differing views and stand points,

I only add my bit due to some anti road rage , sort of,

last thursday , I had to bring my SIIa ex mil 1969 2.25 down from Lancelin to Perth.

this trip filled me with a bit of trepidation (even fear) as the lancelin road is about a 100 km of windeyish road with a bit of double line action, as you would expect from WA roads.
and WA agro can be a bit extreme , at least in the metro area.

I picked thursday early as a good buffer zone against too much traffic,
and with a series landrover I am always mindful of my route, and plan things in advance.

So here I was doing 70kmh back to perth, Bearing in mind I was always paying attention to who was behind and the road ahead.

Weaving far left on broken lines to give people behind a view ahead to overtake, and always keeping a constant speed.

I was surprised and proud to find that not one person was obviously agro,no one beeped and I got heaps of waves and thumbs up, from all sorts of cars and 4WD,s with a faster cruising speed than me.

even a telstra convoy of 4WD's pretended to make slow down arm moves as a joke.

In fact, It was not until I was back in the metro area where a hsv commodore V8 ute tailgated me for 5 k's then overtook so close before nearly ripping off my front end, I thought "ahh back in the metro area"

sure enough the next speed sign was 70kmh - a repeater.

my question to the forum ?

If I do the right thing , can I expect any support from the faster crowd to the vintage crowd.

or do you want me off the road ! until I drop a TDI

incisor
3rd September 2006, 07:19 AM
mate, why worry about the fools...

get out in your truck and enjoy it,

let the ignorant clowns go their own way..

Captain_Rightfoot
3rd September 2006, 07:19 AM
my question to the forum ?

If I do the right thing , can I expect any support from the faster crowd to the vintage crowd.

or do you want me off the road ! until I drop a TDI
You can probably expect support from mature people... as you already know. There may be exceptions but I think this will mostly be the case

However from the young crowd I think it will be a different story. That's not to say than many of them won't support you... but there will probably be a bigger % that won't and will do silly things :(

George130
3rd September 2006, 08:21 AM
I find it varies. I hug the left hand side of the road and try to keep my speed constant so its easy for others to pass. I find P platers don't get it but most older people do. As for the trucks the main troublesome ones for me are these 2 woolies trucks that are in convoy on thursdays. Those two don't seem to care about anyone and will use scare tacktics to push their way through and happily cut anything up to stay together at their speed (Faster than most things on the road). Most trucks are realy good and if you give them the safe to pull in flash they soon learn who you are and treat you as one of them.

discoute
3rd September 2006, 09:18 AM
Edd a well writen letter to woolies would fix that problem, With trucks I give respect, I look at it like this, some of these drivers are operating tied and on a misson to get somewhere so I don't play roulet with them for my own safety.

How ever I did have a "counselling session" with a truck driver several years ago in a service station, 65 tonne under control of an idiot. some truckies are just not that tough. Most truckies are very good and drive with the flow of traffic. I think they suffer the same as we with the anti 4wd fools. I don't suffer from road rage and will ignore it most times.

glen

EchiDna
3rd September 2006, 11:21 AM
I'm just back from 10 days driving around the NT in a 6 berth mobile home :wasntme:
the biggest vehicle you can legally drive on a standard licence apparently...

anyway, to appease the occasional coloumn forming behind us (it did happen) I kept left and if the tailgater ****ed me off enough, I'd drop the left wheels onto the gravel edge, they soon got the message when dust and small stones covered 70% of their view forwards :)

I typically just grin and bare it - not going to shorten my life or risk the family to appease my temper's need to boil!