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p38arover
14th June 2024, 07:49 PM
I took only myself but it seems Gen Z are different.

Report: One in Four Gen Z Job Applicants Bring Parents to Interview (https://www.westernjournal.com/report-one-four-gen-z-job-applicants-bring-parents-interview/)

NavyDiver
15th June 2024, 02:54 PM
I took only myself but it seems Gen Z are different.

Report: One in Four Gen Z Job Applicants Bring Parents to Interview (https://www.westernjournal.com/report-one-four-gen-z-job-applicants-bring-parents-interview/)

Researchers and popular media use the mid-to-late 1990s as starting birth years and the early 2010s as ending birth years.?


Too often mums were taking sons in to see the Doctor. 30, 40 and 50 year old sons!!!!!! My join the Navy at 15 year old self was amazed[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin] Noting again.
"The Kids these days!!!!!!!" is highly applicable to some of them and some of every Generation for 1000s of years [thumbsupbig]

RANDLOVER
17th June 2024, 06:56 PM
If you're on the dole take a hand puppet that does all the talking for you that way you won't get the job, as my retired mate recently saw while waiting at Centrelink to discuss his pension!

Arapiles
17th June 2024, 10:17 PM
I took only myself but it seems Gen Z are different.

Report: One in Four Gen Z Job Applicants Bring Parents to Interview (https://www.westernjournal.com/report-one-four-gen-z-job-applicants-bring-parents-interview/)


I find this very hard to believe and I'm going to presume that it's made-up - not only have I interviewed Gen Z job applicants and no-one brought their parents, in fact, in over 40 years in the workforce I've never heard of it happening.

p38arover
18th June 2024, 01:40 PM
^^ It was in the USA.

Blknight.aus
18th June 2024, 01:56 PM
The only reason I can fathom for this is if you're interviewing for a job that for some reason you cant get to on a reasonable time frame and cant drive yourself.

Back when I was going for job interviews, because I was reliant on public transport or the bike, I'd always make sure mum or dad were available to get me there and back if something went wrong with the public transport, to drop me off if the public transport times were rediculous or if the weather had gone agaisnt being able to get there on a pushbike and be presentable. On a couple of occasions when I was being dropped off, mum or dad would wait in the foyer of the building if something needed to be done on the way home or they were taking me home to save the travel time.

p38arover
18th June 2024, 05:11 PM
When I was 16 and, having finished 6th Form (Year 12) I applied for 3 jobs and got interviews. I went by myself.

I got offers for 2 of them. I took the one that started at twice as much (10 pounds cf. 5 pounds) for a 3 year traineeship cf. a 5 year apprenticeship.

I started work on my 17th birthday and stayed with them for 37 years.

Saitch
18th June 2024, 06:05 PM
When I was 16 and, having finished 6th Form (Year 12) I applied for 3 jobs and got interviews. I went by myself.

I got offers for 2 of them. I took the one that started at twice as much (10 pounds cf. 5 pounds) for a 3 year traineeship cf. a 5 year apprenticeship.

I started work on my 17th birthday and stayed with them for 37 years.

So, 16 and went by yourself. Am I correct in thinking that you had public transport available?

p38arover
18th June 2024, 07:00 PM
So, 16 and went by yourself. Am I correct in thinking that you had public transport available?

Yes. Train into the city (Sydney CBD from western Sydney) for two (trainee radio technician which I became, cadet chemical engineer for the other which I didn’t get), train and buses to Mascot for the other (apprentice fitter and turner).

Being 16 wasn’t a problem. Not long before, I’d driven my unregistered 1938 Vauxhall from Brisbane to Sydney (without a licence). It did have numberplates on it - from another car.

350RRC
18th June 2024, 08:01 PM
I was head hunted for the most rewarding jobs and it was usually over the phone involving what the other party was bringing to the conversation. Everything from surfboards to sitting on research advisory committees to exporting custom made windsurfers to Germany to being the industry exec for a state rock lobster industry group.

One of these jobs I probably would have done pro bono................. freshwater fish surveys all over Vic,
but hey....... gotta play the game. Was offered twice as much as expected and probably delivered more over the years.

I view myself as lucky to have the skills (which includes editing reports reports... the money shot) and being able to lift the performance of all the related businesses over time. I like to share the skills I've learnt with people of good intent and did that this morning with three environment consultants who are vying to do some work on my 5 acres of regen bush in Vic that the local council wants to pay for based on results to date.

Call me stoopid, but for me it's not usually about money. I'm still learning how to learn and how principle aspects of one thing can be applied to a totally unrelated other.

It really worries me when kids in basic retail can't do basic maths in their heads and have to rely on the till to work out the sum purchase and what the change should be. Now there is AI and the employable reality for someone will become how best able they are at accessing the needed info rather than actually knowing it.

Worries me when discovery of the location of really special wild places happens on the net by decoding the tags on attached pics in social media posts, rather than just getting out there and finding even more stuff.

Where are we going?

DL


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V8Ian
18th June 2024, 08:08 PM
, I’d driven my unregistered car from Brisbane to Sydney (without a licence). It did have numberplates on it - from another car.

You did well, avoiding all the revenue (safety) cameras. [bigwhistle]

350RRC
18th June 2024, 09:04 PM
I think I've posted this before but it is very relevant to this thread..........

Was doing a cray data collection job (yes head hunted for that too 30 years ago and ongoing) out of Port Mac in SA fishing in Vic waters, on a boat that had a Vic licence.

The owner had a major self owned operation happening and was just doing some research stuff and working some leased quota to boost his gun deckhand's annual pay. He didn't need the money but on a serious cray boat a gun decky is worth more than that.

At one stage over the 10 days he talked about the first job he ever had.

15 years old, left school, only option for him was the local abattoir.

Went for the interview (from memory his mother waited in the car outside), was handed some forms to fill in. He asked if he could take them home and return them the next day which was OK'd.

Next day he's back with the competed forms and fesses up to the boss that the delay was caused by his (then) inability to read or write.

The boss says he's got the job. Coz 'you're honest'.

This guy is very wealthy now, has a wife who taught him how to read and write, and still owns his cray licence and large quota that he leases out. And he's still honest, generous and full of humility.

Has a farm AFAIK.

I felt really privileged when he told me the story.

DL

Lionelgee
18th June 2024, 09:28 PM
Never mention you have a PhD for a pre-screening interview. Even if the PhD is exactly in the job title 'wellbeing officer' being advertised. Young HR person squeals over the phone ... 'we don't have a pay scale for PhDs" Next day I get a not successful email for two jobs I applied for. Oh the other one was their version job title for my current job that I have been doing for two years. Thank you for representing your clients - military veterans, so well. Myopic mob of dills.

Kind regards
Lionel

p38arover
19th June 2024, 10:48 AM
I will never be able to mention I have a PhD! [bigsmile]

V8Ian
19th June 2024, 11:44 AM
I will never be able to mention I have a PhD! [bigsmile]
You're in excellent company. [bigwhistle]

Lionelgee
19th June 2024, 05:48 PM
Hello All,

They were claiming that the reason why I had not previously been offered an interview - for an earlier advertised role, and the current role I was applying for, was because I did not have a degree in the area of Wellbeing. Then I said I thought a PhD in Wellbeing would fill that requirement to have a degree in the field. Then I heard screeching on the other end of the phone., "we don't have a pay scale for PhDs". How uber professional! Then their small-mindedness kicked in. I am sure that part of my level of understanding is realising that the pay rate being advertised would be the pay level that I would receive. I never asked about a differential pay scale. So, they subsequently get a possibly second rate applicant going through and I miss out on a possible job. Silly me, I thought the role of HR was to get the best possible applicants for their clients - military veterans who have already made their contribution to the nation. I am sure the veterans' level of service to our country was not second-rate.

Kind regards
Lionel

RANDLOVER
19th June 2024, 07:12 PM
I will never be able to mention I have a PhD! [bigsmile]

My uncle who owned a corner store reckoned he had a BSC qualification, Behind Shop Counter. [biggrin]

350RRC
20th June 2024, 10:30 AM
Hello All,

......................... Then I said I thought a PhD in Wellbeing would fill that requirement to have a degree in the field. Then I heard screeching on the other end of the phone., "we don't have a pay scale for PhDs". .............................

Kind regards
Lionel

Plenty of small cafes and coffee joints seem to have payscales for those with PHDs.

DEL

RANDLOVER
20th June 2024, 05:38 PM
Plenty of small cafes and coffee joints seem to have payscales for those with PHDs.

DEL

Especially those sporting dreadlocks and/or tie dyes.

p38arover
21st June 2024, 07:46 AM
My uncle who owned a corner store reckoned he had a BSC qualification, Behind Shop Counter. [biggrin]

My uncle worked for the post office. Called himself a Floor Manager.

He was a cleaner.

Tombie
21st June 2024, 09:31 AM
15 when I applied, 16 when I raised my hand and swore to defend the Commonwealth.
All interviews, testing and follow ups leading to my entry were solo visits - 3 months after initial application I had my D/L (Ps) so drove to all appointments.


This new mob - not all of them, but a majority - are ****ed!

3toes
22nd June 2024, 07:06 PM
Slightly different take on this a few years ago was between jobs and a bit bored so thought would get a job night shift shelf stacking at a local supermarket. Now I share the surname of this supermarket brand and the owner lived in the same village. So thought how could they refuse me as might be a relative

While sitting in their office filling in the application form there was a bloke beside me who was having a lot of difficulty with the form. Spent some time helping him with it so it looked good to someone reading it. The words you use can make a big difference

Despite my thoughts about the shared surname I did not get a job. Seems I was too experienced and they considered I would not stay. How long does someone stay stacking shelves on the night shift? My pre job search information gathering said most left the job at that store within 12 months

Was talking to my window cleaner (yes some stereo types are true here it is normal to have a window cleaner) who asked if I had applied for a job stacking shelves at the supermarket

Seems he knew the person I had helped fill in the application form. They had not had work since leaving school 2 years ago. They had got the job and was saying it was because some Australian had helped them fill in the application form. Seems that was me. So while I did not get the work someone who really needed it did which was great. I hope this lead to something bigger for them

Snoopyrain
15th August 2025, 12:18 AM
I bring a copy of my resume, a pen, and small notepad. Also make sure my phone's on silent and my shoes are clean. Confidence and being on time help heaps too.

RANDLOVER
15th August 2025, 01:59 AM
Unfortunately my resume is a list of things I no longer want to do.

austastar
15th August 2025, 08:09 AM
Hi,
Only ever applied for 4 jobs, got 3 of them and was later very happy not to have got the one I missed.
The last interview was in 1971.
Cheers

reid25
15th August 2025, 08:42 AM
15 when I applied, 16 when I raised my hand and swore to defend the Commonwealth.
All interviews, testing and follow ups leading to my entry were solo visits - 3 months after initial application I had my D/L (Ps) so drove to all appointments.


This new mob - not all of them, but a majority - are ****ed!

I think it's important to remember that MSM are sensationalists and will post whatever gains the most anger, to get the reaction/interaction. I can't believe that the older generations are still saying "this new mob are fked" when I am part of the 'new mob' and have first hand never seen anything like any of these articles, or even that the new generation are slack. If anything, I see (in my city at least) the next generation working hard to get ahead and get a leg up, in an economy that is absolutely rooted by the last generations. It's easy to say "oh the next generation just expect things handed to them", but for once we should realise who put them in this position. This will be the first time in history that a generation has left the world worse off.

Arapiles
16th August 2025, 09:17 AM
I think it's important to remember that MSM are sensationalists and will post whatever gains the most anger, to get the reaction/interaction. I can't believe that the older generations are still saying "this new mob are fked" when I am part of the 'new mob' and have first hand never seen anything like any of these articles, or even that the new generation are slack. If anything, I see (in my city at least) the next generation working hard to get ahead and get a leg up, in an economy that is absolutely rooted by the last generations. It's easy to say "oh the next generation just expect things handed to them", but for once we should realise who put them in this position. This will be the first time in history that a generation has left the world worse off.

I ignore anything where people are stating that "young people today are ****ed" or "this new generation is ****ed" because humans have been saying it for ever. The ancient Greeks said it, and there's a famous quote attributed to Socrates that apparently wasn't by him but was by a more recent scholar summarising ancient Greek attitudes.

But I did find this about what Aristotle thought about old men:


"In the Greek world (or at least in Classical Greek literature) elderly men were often stereotyped as rigid, suspicious, and stingy. In his Rhetoric, for example, Aristotle says:

"[Elderly men] have lived many years; they have often been taken in, and often made mistakes; and life on the whole is a bad business....They are cynical; that is, they tend to put the worse construction on everything. Further, their experience makes them distrustful and therefore suspicious of evil. Consequently they neither love warmly nor hate bitterly....They are small-minded, because they have been humbled by life: their desires are set upon nothing more exalted or unusual than what will help them to keep alive. They are not generous, because money is one of the things they must have....They are cowardly, and are always anticipating danger; unlike that of the young, who are warm-blooded, their temperament is chilly..." (2.13 [1390a])"


That describes a lot of old people that I've come across.

reid25
16th August 2025, 11:52 AM
I ignore anything where people are stating that "young people today are ****ed" or "this new generation is ****ed" because humans have been saying it for ever. The ancient Greeks said it, and there's a famous quote attributed to Socrates that apparently wasn't by him but was by a more recent scholar summarising ancient Greek attitudes.

But I did find this about what Aristotle thought about old men:


"In the Greek world (or at least in Classical Greek literature) elderly men were often stereotyped as rigid, suspicious, and stingy. In his Rhetoric, for example, Aristotle says:

"[Elderly men] have lived many years; they have often been taken in, and often made mistakes; and life on the whole is a bad business....They are cynical; that is, they tend to put the worse construction on everything. Further, their experience makes them distrustful and therefore suspicious of evil. Consequently they neither love warmly nor hate bitterly....They are small-minded, because they have been humbled by life: their desires are set upon nothing more exalted or unusual than what will help them to keep alive. They are not generous, because money is one of the things they must have....They are cowardly, and are always anticipating danger; unlike that of the young, who are warm-blooded, their temperament is chilly..." (2.13 [1390a])"


That describes a lot of old people that I've come across.

Love that!

Snoopyrain
19th August 2025, 05:25 PM
I always take a folder with printed copies of my resume, a notepad, and a pen. Jotting down a few talking points or questions beforehand helps me stay on track. If I'm asked to bring anything I've written, I print it out cleanly. You can fine-tune your writing skills (https://legalcareerpath.com/how-to-become-a-paralegal/) well in advance using editing apps lie Grammarly - it catches little things that are easy to miss when you're nervous or rushing.

Eevo
20th August 2025, 01:41 AM
i take a copy of the job description
notes for common interview questions and how to answer them.
notes about the company

GoldieLooks
21st August 2025, 07:50 PM
I usually take a few printed copies of my resume, a notebook with any notes or questions, pen, phone (on silent), and some water if it's a long drive.

GoldieLooks
29th August 2025, 09:27 PM
I finally brought extra copies of my resume, a notebook with a few questions ready, and a decent pen, nothing fancy, just reliable. I also mentioned in passing that I'd been doing some extra training since the last job, including that the SDSU Global Campus program for sterile processing is 100% online (https://www.steriletechprograms.com/online-programs/), which seemed to get a good reaction. Shows you're taking initiative without making a huge deal out of it.