three amigos

[laney]

Hi all I have the 3 amigos rearing their ugly heads again it has been a number of years since I have seen them all faults are historical faults all have a code 4084 I have cleared all faults several times and they come back any help would be of great help I used a hawk eye total to clear faults.
Thanks Phil

[PhilipA]

IMHO the most common cause of the three amigos is a crook front wheel bearing. the two times I had one it was first the left then the right.
Do you have a Nanocom? It should tell you (incorrectly) which sensor is crook.
Regards PhilipA

[sierrafery]

Hi all I have the 3 amigos rearing their ugly heads again it has been a number of years since I have seen them all faults are historical faults all have a code 4084 I have cleared all faults several times and they come back any help would be of great help I used a hawk eye total to clear faults.
Thanks Phil
Hi, next time better tell the exact description of the code cos that number doesnt mean too much... afaik 4084 shown by hawkeye means "Front RH sensor intermittent output" and if that's what you get in 99% of cases a new hub is needed, 1% can be a wiring issue/corrosion in the ECU connector or ECU fault) ... give some contact spray in the sensor's connector(if it's not the hardwired type) and if still the same replace the hub ... usually ABS sensor faults are not intermittent and it's visible on stationary live data so a new sensor as long as it shows the same value as the others can be wasted money

[hankdusty]

IMHO the most common cause of the three amigos is a crook front wheel bearing. the two times I had one it was first the left then the right.
Do you have a Nanocom? It should tell you (incorrectly) which sensor is crook.
Regards PhilipA

Hey PhillipA not to hijack thread but what do you mean by incorrectly? i feel like ive read somewhere nanocom gets mixed up when determining what wheel bearing is at fault? is this what you're meaning?

[PhilipA]

Yes. although AFAIR it recognised a low voltage from my right rear which was just a dirty connector. I am just quoting something that I read somewhere on this forum. AFAIR it was correct on which front sensor was erratic, caused by the wheel bearing even though in both cases you could not tell the bearing was crook. The symptom was that the signal would drop out when travelling slowly. Once the fault was cleared it would stay cleared until AFAIR 20 occurrences occurred and the 3 amigos would reappear.
Regards PhilipA

[laney]

Thanks all for your responses I have gone over the abs carefully found no problems so far, the lights have not come back on so fingers crossed they stay away. Now for a bit of advice Sierrafery the code I gave is the code that was on my Hawk eye to say next time better tell the exact description of code here in Australia could be taken as aggressive. I understand your English is not your fist language, but I gave the code as it appeared as I am not in the habit of hiding what I have to say I will put it here so there is no mistaking how I feel about what I better do next time.

[sierrafery]

Thanks all for your responses I have gone over the abs carefully found no problems so far, the lights have not come back on so fingers crossed they stay away. Now for a bit of advice Sierrafery the code I gave is the code that was on my Hawk eye to say next time better tell the exact description of code here in Australia could be taken as aggressive. I understand your English is not your fist language, but I gave the code as it appeared as I am not in the habit of hiding what I have to say I will put it here so there is no mistaking how I feel about what I better do next time.
Ok, then my apologies that i was trying to help without any intention of being agressive(asking for clarity is not considered agressive nowhere here in Europe regardless of the language) but i'll take your advice and next time when somebody will post a code without description for everybody to guess what it is i'll not answer at all even if i know what's the issue... i have Hawkeye as well and it always shows the descriptions too attached to the numeric codes which are not something publicly listed all over the place like the OBD2 generic codes to be easy to find. However, if that code comes back(and i have the feeling it will) you can take my advice and replace that hub. Good luck

[reid25]

Thanks all for your responses I have gone over the abs carefully found no problems so far, the lights have not come back on so fingers crossed they stay away. Now for a bit of advice Sierrafery the code I gave is the code that was on my Hawk eye to say next time better tell the exact description of code here in Australia could be taken as aggressive. I understand your English is not your fist language, but I gave the code as it appeared as I am not in the habit of hiding what I have to say I will put it here so there is no mistaking how I feel about what I better do next time.

To be honest mate, Sierrafery absolutely has better English than majority of people here and on the internet in general. Not sure why you've been put out of place by his reply, it was fine and justified. These forums are for discussion, and hopefully accurate help about issues, which requires all the information about the fault. We do not want to turn into the Facebook groups where someone asks "why is my car not turning on" with absolutely no backstory.

[Tins]

To be honest mate, Sierrafery absolutely has better English than majority of people here and on the internet in general. Not sure why you've been put out of place by his reply, it was fine and justified. These forums are for discussion, and hopefully accurate help about issues, which requires all the information about the fault. We do not want to turn into the Facebook groups where someone asks "why is my car not turning on" with absolutely no backstory.

X1000.. If you don't want honest answers from those that know, why ask?

[PhilipA]

And no they will not go away.
Regards PhilipA

[Bohica]

Now for a bit of advice Sierrafery the code I gave is the code that was on my Hawk eye to say next time better tell the exact description of code here in Australia could be taken as aggressive.

In what universe? Aggressive? Really? His advice is straight to the point and accurate.

[AK83]

IMHO the most common cause of the three amigos is a crook front wheel bearing. the two times I had one it was first the left then the right.
Do you have a Nanocom? It should tell you (incorrectly) which sensor is crook.
Regards PhilipA


Just to throw a spanner in the works:

A little while back the TD5 was let down by my blissfull ignorance, in that driver front bearing had collapsed to total failure. in 40+ years of driving my first ever. I thought I had it pegged as a rear, but turns out I was way of the mark.
TD5 stuck on the side of the road immovable due to failed front bearing. (got trailer, recovered, fixed next day, blah blah) But more importantly no amigos leading up to bearing failure.

I still think right rear is worn too, has a slight noise on left handers. I actually got the rear bearing months ago to replace, but it's not got worse, and there is a ever so slight chance it's tyre anyhow. Very slight, as both rear tyres look as bad as each other and no noise from the rear pass side.

Anyhow, yesterday I got an amigo event too. Pulled up. turned off, checked with nanoncom, yep... right rear came up as signal problem. cleared code, went to move off, amigos straight up. Damned. Checked code, now rear left came up as the code on nanocom. cleared that, all good again the drive home.
I haven't had a visit from amigos for so long, can't remember when ... super rare.

But that front has been worn for so long, didn't just fail suddenly, noisy for a long time(just me being slack and wrong!) .. but no long term faults logged according to nanocom(just those two yesterday one after the other).

[Jaquesdp]

I get ABS and TC light now and again