Nicool
11th November 2024, 01:00 PM
Hi everyone,
Over the last few day, I have been wasting too much of my time trying to understand the options for a tesla like upgrade to my Discovery 4.
I have the MY11 HSE Denso display (bigger screen) although I don't think it makes much difference, since the objective is to fully replace that screen, rather than upgrading its capabilities.
Anyways, contrary to what has been implied many times, in various Facebook groups and on Land Rover forums, all Tesla-like units are not the same, there are different products/manufacturers, sold by various shops, even though none of them seem to bother being transparent about exactly what they're selling.
Rant mode ON:
All the Aliexpress/eBay shops have obscure product descriptions, often use wrong / misleading screenshots.
They have you choose different mix of RAM / ROM memory, whereas what you want is a product name and list of specificiations/features, to decide whether you want it or not.
Rant mode OFF :)
I thought I'd spare others the headache to make sense of this, so here is what it my "research" boils down to, after browsing countless forums, sales pages and asking bunch of questions to 3 different Aliexpress sellers.
As far as I can tell, there are currently 2 manufacturers of Tesla-like displays which can be fitted in a Disco 3/4. Note I won't list all the features which are the same (wireless carplay, integration with reverse camera, etc), only the main differences I could spot:
Navidrive
It is claimed to deliver good audio because it plugs into your CD readers's AMP (whereby making that CD reader unusable). It will NOT carry over your car's original menus (bye-bye 4WDriving screen). Screen resolution 1024*768. Here are 2 shops selling them:
Autojeta: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOqP1JE
Yongtai: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004183435519.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004183435519.html'spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1 7.7e4cykgZykgZLC&algo_pvid=7fb99767-81e1-44d3-af7e-2826ba52be61&algo_exp_id=7fb99767-81e1-44d3-af7e-2826ba52be61-8&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21AUD%211230.13%21824.19%21%21%217 99.30%21535.53%21%402101f04d17308675119041552e09ea %2112000028310644495%21sea%21AU%216075670607%21X&curPageLogUid=pCARO40hjoWk&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A)
Navihua
This manufacturer actually has their own website (www.navihua.com (http://www.navihua.com)), also sold by some Aliexpress shops. The main difference is that you can access the original car menus (4WD infos, etc) in their screens. On the negative, they only provide sound via the AUX interface => sound quality not as good, and I've read users complaining that they keep having to select the sound source. On the plus, you can still use the original CD player, and resolution is 2048*1536.
Here's an Aliexpress shop which sells it, they're called Yanav: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001506583674.html'spm=2114.12010612.8148356.5. 38204ebcMFih8d
I believe Iceboxauto (UK Land Rover specialist) sells Navihua too, perhaps a re-programmed/debugged version of it: Iceboxauto, UK'''s Leading in-car entertainment system supplier.Iceboxauto, Land Rover Discovery 4 [12-16] OEM Tesla dash display (https://www.iceboxauto.com/land-rover-discovery-4-104-tesla-navi-android-100-wifi-carplay-dab-bt-nr1057)
Also, this thread on a UK forum discussed at length the Navihua unit, sadly there still seems to be some glitches, and the seller (Yanav) hasn't been too supportive when issues arise: https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic189588.html which might be a good reason to buy through Iceboxauto, if you were in the UK.
Note both manufacturers offer various RAM/ROM configuration (2GB/32GB, 4GB/64GB...) with different functionalities, which they don't seem to think deserve a proper product sheet/specs list. My understanding is that you get the latest one by picking at least 4GB of RAM, and you pick higher RAM if you wanted it more responsive.
And before someone else tells me to speak to Cambo/Old Jaguar: I did chat with him, he will likely be installing the device for me. He won't be providing one though, as he's had bad experiences with some of these products in the past (I believe it was another brand though).
All in one, very confusing to know what you're buying. I am likely going to pull the trigger on a Navidrive, sold by AutoJeta, simply because these guys seemed the most transparent and responsive to my questions.
I am happy to share what happens here, if that's of interest to anyone.
Over the last few day, I have been wasting too much of my time trying to understand the options for a tesla like upgrade to my Discovery 4.
I have the MY11 HSE Denso display (bigger screen) although I don't think it makes much difference, since the objective is to fully replace that screen, rather than upgrading its capabilities.
Anyways, contrary to what has been implied many times, in various Facebook groups and on Land Rover forums, all Tesla-like units are not the same, there are different products/manufacturers, sold by various shops, even though none of them seem to bother being transparent about exactly what they're selling.
Rant mode ON:
All the Aliexpress/eBay shops have obscure product descriptions, often use wrong / misleading screenshots.
They have you choose different mix of RAM / ROM memory, whereas what you want is a product name and list of specificiations/features, to decide whether you want it or not.
Rant mode OFF :)
I thought I'd spare others the headache to make sense of this, so here is what it my "research" boils down to, after browsing countless forums, sales pages and asking bunch of questions to 3 different Aliexpress sellers.
As far as I can tell, there are currently 2 manufacturers of Tesla-like displays which can be fitted in a Disco 3/4. Note I won't list all the features which are the same (wireless carplay, integration with reverse camera, etc), only the main differences I could spot:
Navidrive
It is claimed to deliver good audio because it plugs into your CD readers's AMP (whereby making that CD reader unusable). It will NOT carry over your car's original menus (bye-bye 4WDriving screen). Screen resolution 1024*768. Here are 2 shops selling them:
Autojeta: https://a.aliexpress.com/_mOqP1JE
Yongtai: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004183435519.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004183435519.html'spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1 7.7e4cykgZykgZLC&algo_pvid=7fb99767-81e1-44d3-af7e-2826ba52be61&algo_exp_id=7fb99767-81e1-44d3-af7e-2826ba52be61-8&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21AUD%211230.13%21824.19%21%21%217 99.30%21535.53%21%402101f04d17308675119041552e09ea %2112000028310644495%21sea%21AU%216075670607%21X&curPageLogUid=pCARO40hjoWk&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A)
Navihua
This manufacturer actually has their own website (www.navihua.com (http://www.navihua.com)), also sold by some Aliexpress shops. The main difference is that you can access the original car menus (4WD infos, etc) in their screens. On the negative, they only provide sound via the AUX interface => sound quality not as good, and I've read users complaining that they keep having to select the sound source. On the plus, you can still use the original CD player, and resolution is 2048*1536.
Here's an Aliexpress shop which sells it, they're called Yanav: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001506583674.html'spm=2114.12010612.8148356.5. 38204ebcMFih8d
I believe Iceboxauto (UK Land Rover specialist) sells Navihua too, perhaps a re-programmed/debugged version of it: Iceboxauto, UK'''s Leading in-car entertainment system supplier.Iceboxauto, Land Rover Discovery 4 [12-16] OEM Tesla dash display (https://www.iceboxauto.com/land-rover-discovery-4-104-tesla-navi-android-100-wifi-carplay-dab-bt-nr1057)
Also, this thread on a UK forum discussed at length the Navihua unit, sadly there still seems to be some glitches, and the seller (Yanav) hasn't been too supportive when issues arise: https://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic189588.html which might be a good reason to buy through Iceboxauto, if you were in the UK.
Note both manufacturers offer various RAM/ROM configuration (2GB/32GB, 4GB/64GB...) with different functionalities, which they don't seem to think deserve a proper product sheet/specs list. My understanding is that you get the latest one by picking at least 4GB of RAM, and you pick higher RAM if you wanted it more responsive.
And before someone else tells me to speak to Cambo/Old Jaguar: I did chat with him, he will likely be installing the device for me. He won't be providing one though, as he's had bad experiences with some of these products in the past (I believe it was another brand though).
All in one, very confusing to know what you're buying. I am likely going to pull the trigger on a Navidrive, sold by AutoJeta, simply because these guys seemed the most transparent and responsive to my questions.
I am happy to share what happens here, if that's of interest to anyone.