Pedalbox rubber - trying to ID and repair/replace. (1995 Defender)

[VladTepes]

1995 Defender 130 Tdi

There is a rubber barrier (likely for sound and heat) in the pedal box. Seen here drooping down and making driving not great.
It looks as if it is supposed to be held up by the lip of the bottom of the dash.
My rubber one has rotted or something and has broken so is not held up.

We looked at the LR repair place / RAVE etc and can't find this part listed ANYWHERE.
I'd very much appreciate if someone can ID it for me, particularly if there is a part number attached.

If anyone has a TEMPLATE to make a DIY version that'd be perfect.

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[MLD]

As a hack, could you remove the insulation and use that to trace a template onto some rubber matting from say, Clark Rubber and secure it with a strip of metal. Or if replacing with the rubber is not a concern, use the insulation as a template to trace onto a thin sheet metal from the Green Shed. It would tuck up above the metal strip under the dash and you could use 2 rivnuts into something under the dash in line with the accelerator pedal mounting bolts to hold the bottom section of it in place. The sheet metal will not sag and the insulation will still be there for whatever little effectiveness it offers in a single skin cabin.

If you are open to "you get whatever you get", AliExpress sells the rubber matting for something like AUD300 but charges that again in postage for the complete front cabin kit (and they sell individual sections too, the selection is below the price). It cost me AUD1400 to land a complete front cabin kit from Exmoor 5 or so years ago. In the pic of the complete kit and the centre console kit in the link is the section you are after.

https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004412348436.html'spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.1 .4297fTwZfTwZZm&algo_pvid=fd8ac65b-a0a1-4b78-b49d-66eecd865b25&algo_exp_id=fd8ac65b-a0a1-4b78-b49d-66eecd865b25-0&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21AUD%2198.73%2163.19%21%21%2163.2 9%2140.51%21%40210318ec17331020566377479e34a6%2112 000029091677548%21sea%21AU%216127414403%21X&curPageLogUid=JiOxHrrH18Jl&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

[VladTepes]

Thanks.

I am very wary of aliexpress for such things (and yes $431 for postage, irrespective of whether you buy a partial or full kit - ouch!)
and am not financial enough to buy an exmoor kit.

Curious as to why I can't find it in the parts manual?

Using the old one as a template might be problematic as I think the top edge has ripped so length might be wrong.


What do you mean by "thin sheet metal from the Green Shed" - you mean Bunnings? I didn't even know they sold sheet metal - never seen it there. I'll bet it has a razor sharp edge....
This does, however, sound seem like the 'best' option at least for now.

[DieselDan]

Hi Vlad

I doubt that rubber item would be a separate part on its own, it looks like it was one assembly with the foil/foam that is left sticking to the underside of the dash - a foam and mass loaded vinyl/rubber combination for noise insulation.

You could just pull the rubber layer off and leave the foam there? Or try some contact cement and stick the rubber back up?

Or you could get a product called mass-noise-layer from carbuilders.com.au

Pull the existing rubber and foam off, use the rubber as a template as best you can and cut out the shape from the new piece of mass noise layer.

[MLD]

Thanks.

What do you mean by "thin sheet metal from the Green Shed" - you mean Bunnings? I didn't even know they sold sheet metal - never seen it there. I'll bet it has a razor sharp edge....
This does, however, sound seem like the 'best' option at least for now.

I had this in mind when i made the comment. might be too narrow. the isle reference for your local Green Shed will put you in the right place to poke around. Perspex would work too and not sharp.

Australian Handyman Supplies 600 x 300 x 0.55mm Galvabond Mini Sheet - Bunnings Australia (https://www.bunnings.com.au/australian-handyman-supplies-600-x-300-x-0-55mm-galvabond-mini-sheet_p0914411)

might be worth trying contact cement of the rubber to the foam before messing about with other options. Worst that will happen is you return to current status in a few months.

[p38arover]

I wouldn't call it a pedal box rubber. That item is ANR6333.

This looks like a piece of interior trim

[DazzaTD5]

the foil pad in the OP's pic is not original

AWR1612 is the part that is common to falling down.

you could also drill some holes (obviously carefully looking to ensure you dont drill through anything important on the other side)
and fit a few carefully placed christmas tree type plastic trim fasteners.

[VladTepes]

Hi Vlad

I doubt that rubber item would be a separate part on its own, it looks like it was one assembly with the foil/foam that is left sticking to the underside of the dash - a foam and mass loaded vinyl/rubber combination for noise insulation.

You could just pull the rubber layer off and leave the foam there? Or try some contact cement and stick the rubber back up?

Or you could get a product called mass-noise-layer from carbuilders.com.au

Pull the existing rubber and foam off, use the rubber as a template as best you can and cut out the shape from the new piece of mass noise layer.

The foil covered foam is kind of floating it doesn't appear to be firmly affixed to anything either its just much lighter so not falling down.
It certainly wouldn't support the weight of the rubber.

I love the carbuilders stuff and if I could would get their whole 130 kit! But for now I need to bodge something.

[p38arover]

the foil pad in the OP's pic is not original

AWR1612 is the part that is common to falling down.

The part marked "2" is ANR1612,

191950

[Lotz-A-Landies]

That foam is someone's attempt at sound deadening.

The original LR trim was hard MDF type material held up by aluminum strips
Depending upon model and A/C
RH: MUC2210 or MXC6543
LH: MTC4865 or MXC6541 or BTR5235

The top retainer model dependent
LH: MWC6253 etc
RH: MWC6254 etc

The bottom retainer is part of the trim held in with screws and washers

[DazzaTD5]

The part marked "2" is ANR1612,

191950

Incorrect, see pic below.
Also using your fav search engine returns many examples of AWR1612.
Furthermore to that, Land Rover Classic returned no results for ANR1612 nor did your fav search engine.

Further further to that if we want to look for faults in my info, here it is...
if you look at the OP's original pic the sagging bit looks like the later rubberized foam style which I have seen in late 300tdi and TD5 Defender, sooooo the part number is:
BTR5232

[DazzaTD5]

But for now I need to bodge something.

then just use the xmas tree push in plastic plugs as I have suggested

[p38arover]

Incorrect, see pic below.
Also using your fav search engine returns many examples of AWR1612.
Furthermore to that, Land Rover Classic returned no results for ANR1612 nor did your fav search engine.

Further further to that if we want to look for faults in my info, here it is...

I wasn't looking for faults in your post, I was clarifying. the ANR was a typo, it should have read AWR. Your pic is the same as mine.

[VladTepes]

Yeah I am a bit confused by the diagrams being the same too.
Same diagram but different conclusions as to part number?

[DazzaTD5]

Yeah I am a bit confused by the diagrams being the same too.
Same diagram but different conclusions as to part number?

No p38arover clarified that the number he posted was a typo, so ignore the ANR number.

the other two choices are:
AWR1612 - this is the early one made of cardboard / mdf type material.
BTR5232 - looks like the one you have, this actually is the most common one, rubber / foam.

Also.... land rover parts over the years can have a whole string of part number changes, changes for variations on models etc etc.
if we look at the above part as one example, there looks like about a dozen part numbers, some superseded, some no longer available.