Cable operated LT230 parking brake diagramme or workshop manual information.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

I have recently returned to the rebuild of my Defender 110 Reynolds Boughton 6x6.

The vehicle now has an Isuzu 4BD1 (soon to be 4BD1T) coupled to Isuzu MSA 5 x 2 gearbox to LT230 28D346***E transfer which has a cable operated drum brake mechanism (parking brake).

None of my parts catalogues or workshop manuals cover the cable mechanism for the drum brake.

I would appreciate someone directing me to where I can access the parts catalogue or workshop manual for this type of drum brake.

Thanks
Diana

[PhilipA]

It couldn't be too different to a D2 which has the LT230 and cable operated drum brake, so have a look at the manual for that.
Regards PhilipA

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thanks Philip

Unfortunately while it is the same brake assembly as the D2 and TD5 Defender, none of my manuals (D1/Defender/Perentie/RRc) go later than the mechanical linkage, and I have not been able to find one online any later than the ones I have in hard copy.

If you have a link that would be much appreciated. [smilebigeye]

P.S. I am missing the circlips and retainer for the park brake cable and cable shift H-N-L so the parts catalogue would be ideal so I know what to order.

[TonyC]

Hi Diana,
This is the 3 pages covering the cable hand brake from my Defender WSM.
Is this what you need?
I could scan it later this week if that's better the the photos.

Tony

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[Blknight.aus]

Its in the RAVE,

if you want a mechanical linkage parkbrake I have one sitting on a toasted lt230 you're welcome to.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Its in the RAVE,

if you want a mechanical linkage parkbrake I have one sitting on a toasted lt230 you're welcome to.

Hi Dave

Thanks for the offer. [smilebigeye] Unfortunately I need to use the cable linkage because of the length of the Isuzu MSA5 x 2 / LT230 in fact I need to get a longer cable made to reach the back of the transmission. If you know the 110 chassis, the back of the drum is only 40mm from the front lip of the cross member behind the transmission.

My RAVE disks wont read on my PC. (neither the Win 11 nor the Win 10 ones) I guess I need updated RAVE disks.

[Slunnie]

Hi Dave

Thanks for the offer. [smilebigeye] Unfortunately I need to use the cable linkage because of the length of the Isuzu MSA5 x 2 / LT230 in fact I need to get a longer cable made to reach the back of the transmission. If you know the 110 chassis, the back of the drum is only 40mm from the front lip of the cross member behind the transmission.

My RAVE disks wont read on my PC. (neither the Win 11 nor the Win 10 ones) I guess I need updated RAVE disks.

Diana, its been a long time!

I'm not sure if it is the same issue, but my RAVE will only work if it uses its own version of Adobe Acrobat - so any other versions which might be on the PC must be closed before opening RAVE.

[p38arover]

The diagram in the Defender parts lists looks the same as the diagram in the Perentie RPS.

Perentie:

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Defender:

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[Lotz-A-Landies]

Thanks guys, but it seems all those have a shaft activated shoe expander exiting the backing plate half the way up (3 O'clock) on the RHS, the brake cable on the 28D LT230 I have has the cable directly entering on an angle from 7 O'clock on the LHS (below the speedo drive) with the end of the cable actuating the shoe mechanism on the other side at 5 O'clock.

I'm just about to make my 4th RAVE purchase tonight, this one hopefully will have the D2 mechanism (but Dave's information is not clear, only specifying Discovery pre-update what ever that means). I'm a Series and Perentie person [bigwhistle]

The RAVE manuals I have are on CDROM and haven't been able to read them since before WIN 8.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Actually, I should have mentioned TonyC's images are the correct system but no part numbers, so I need the matching parts catalogue page.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Hi Diana,
This is the 3 pages covering the cable hand brake from my Defender WSM.
Is this what you need?
I could scan it later this week if that's better the the photos.

Tony

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Someone with a parts manual for this assembly.

Is there a clip or retainer to hold the cable into the backing plate? Part number?

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[Blknight.aus]

Hi Dave

Thanks for the offer. [smilebigeye] Unfortunately I need to use the cable linkage because of the length of the Isuzu MSA5 x 2 / LT230 in fact I need to get a longer cable made to reach the back of the transmission. If you know the 110 chassis, the back of the drum is only 40mm from the front lip of the cross member behind the transmission.

My RAVE disks wont read on my PC. (neither the Win 11 nor the Win 10 ones) I guess I need updated RAVE disks.

ID use a mechanical linkage, its a lot easier to fabircate and probably cheaper than the cable option.


To get your rave discs to work on your windows 10+ pc make a shortcut on the desktop that runs the RAVE.exe in windows 95 emulation mode.

[TonyC]

Someone with a parts manual for this assembly.

Is there a clip or retainer to hold the cable into the backing plate? Part number?

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Hi Diana,

Here is a diagram and part numbers from British Auto Parts.
It doesn't show the cable, or any sort of retaining clip.
Land Rover Parts - TRANSMISSION BRAKE - DIRECT ENTRY CABLE (https://www.britishautoparts.com.au/transmission_brake___direct_entry_cable)

Maybe the clip comes with the cable?

I can't find any good views of the cable.

The change over date from rod to direct actuation seems to be about 1994.


Tony

[p38arover]

Looking at this page, I don't think the clip is incuded:

Defender Handbrake Cable - SPB500200 (https://klr.com.au/land-rover/defender/110-130/spares-and-parts/brakes/handbrake/defender-handbrake-cable/)

Not shown here, either:

SPB500200 (https://lr.ru/search/type/catalog/query/SPB500200)

But is it just a P-clip?

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[Blknight.aus]

the clip that retains the calbe on the park brake backing plate is part of the cable. Id describe it as a collar more than a clip.

[p38arover]

Is it a keyhole shape hole where one pushes it through the big hole and then slides the cable sideways into the narrow part of the slot?

[Lotz-A-Landies]

At the moment the cable is not attached at the handle end so the backing plate end slides in and out of the backing plate. so no clip.

I guess it's the consequence of making a Frankenstein Defender with bits from all over the place. An ex-Perentie 4BD1, the LT230 started out in a D1 before the Q gears, it now has Ashcroft ratio chances and D2 cable shift transfer and diff lock and the overdrive is air shift. Does my head in at times. I won't talk about the air suspension. [wink11]

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Just to give an idea.

The combination is close coupled out of the chassis because, despite many attempts within the constrained space, I was unable to couple engine and transmission together. A bit like doing 5 dimensional chess.

[Blknight.aus]

Is it a keyhole shape hole where one pushes it through the big hole and then slides the cable sideways into the narrow part of the slot?

no, its a round hole, you pull the cable through then the collar expands on the other side holding it in.

[Don 130]

Does this picture help?192000192000
Or have a look here (http://https://new.lrcat.com/#!/1232/39784/39785/3067/39980)
Don.

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Does this picture help?192000192000
Or have a look here (http://https://new.lrcat.com/#!/1232/39784/39785/3067/39980)
Don.
A bit of an odd drawing. Cable seems to enter from the wrong side and poor detail on the cable entry.

I would however be interested in the description of the items in the box marked 7.

[PhilipA]

Look I may be wrong but I think that the actual mounting points of the drum backing plate onto the LT230 is the same all through production. Just get a complete assembly from somewhere and fit it and get a cable made in the image of the cable that you get with the drum. I am sure someone on here would have one to give you. Unfortunately I gave away the one I had when I sold the D2.
Regards PhilipA

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Look I may be wrong but I think that the actual mounting points of the drum backing plate onto the LT230 is the same all through production. Just get a complete assembly from somewhere and fit it and get a cable made in the image of the cable that you get with the drum. I am sure someone on here would have one to give you. <text clipped>.
Regards PhilipA
I have the whole assembly with a cable, but nothing seems to hold the cable in place although there is a recess that may be for a cable retainer.

The plan is to take the current cable to have a longer one made to spec, but it would be nice to take the whole cable with fittings.

[Don 130]

A bit of an odd drawing. Cable seems to enter from the wrong side and poor detail on the cable entry.

I would however be interested in the description of the items in the box marked 7.

That drawing probably comes from a left hand drive vehicle so the design may be reversed to ours. No 7 is listed as 'Transmission brake adjuster Kit'
Don.