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NobbyTD5

29th April 2025, 08:59 PM

Hi all
Quick update on the 1952 80 Series One refurbishment.
I just fitted my refurbished radiator on the weekend - but a bit stumped on getting it running again until I get the correct fan belt - I was given the wrong one. but have the correct one on the way.

but my next project is replacing the cheap electric fuel pump and replacing it with a new but original type of SU pump.

I have a couple of photo's of whats there - attached
I have the exploded diagram from the old Series One Landcover Service manual but would love a couple of close up photos from an original installed SU pump to help me understand how to install, plumb and wire this new pump. I know I need a plate and some new bolts - but am not sure how it actually fits on and if it bolts to the plate that my current pump is connected to.
Any photos, comments or guidance very welcome - Thanks

cheers

Nobby

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gromit

30th April 2025, 06:25 AM

I just Googled 'Land Rover Series 1 engine' and found loads of photos.

Colin

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NobbyTD5

30th April 2025, 09:04 AM

Colin
Thanks
I had a look through a few books I have as well - there are engine photo's
but can't get a close up of that aluminium panel and how the pump and plate attach
I am wondering if the aluminium plate I have there is original or a new replacement ?
I will have another look and google photo's as well

cheers
Nobby

I just Googled 'Land Rover Series 1 engine' and found loads of photos.

Colin

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NobbyTD5

30th April 2025, 02:07 PM

I guess - if i have this plate - the SU pump will bolt to that

https://embertonimperial.com/cdn/shop/files/Screenshot_2024-07-04_161637.png?v=1720106233

otherwise will need to purchase one like this

cheers

Nobby

Colin
Thanks
I had a look through a few books I have as well - there are engine photo's
but can't get a close up of that aluminium panel and how the pump and plate attach
I am wondering if the aluminium plate I have there is original or a new replacement ?
I will have another look and google photo's as well

cheers
Nobby

gromit

30th April 2025, 06:22 PM

NobbyTD5

30th April 2025, 07:00 PM

Colin
Thanks !
I found that one as well - I assume that the round plate in photo I have just attached fits behind that plate and pump is attached on other side by two bolts.
that gives me something to work with

cheers

Nobby

193172

Bracket listed here, hopefully someone can confirm it's correct. My Series I has a couple of Facet pumps, the SU is long gone.

Land Rover Series 1 2 2a Repro Bulkhead Fuel Pump Voltage Regulator Mount Galv | eBay (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/272103041692)

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qBwAAOSwLN5WlVFa/s-l1600.jpg

Colin

whitehillbilly64

1st May 2025, 04:46 AM

Hi Nooby.
You will also need two of these. LR 212558 rubber bush fuel pump mount – Charlesworth Mouldings (https://charlesworthmouldings.co.uk/shop/fuel-pump-rubber-bush-212558/)
He also has a supply of other parts you may need. I have used them several times and give good service to Australia. All the rubber parts are made in house so last, unlike the aftermarket ones available.
They pass through the bulkhead plate and the larger rubber piece you have.
The genuine bracket has a turned piece on the outside edge to give it rigidity. I thought someone had bent mine. it snapped off when I tried to straighten it.
I will get some pics of my 90% finished 53, 80inch fuel pump fitted. Fuel lines not done yet. I will just use 1/4 flexi fuel line.

whitehillbilly

whitehillbilly64

1st May 2025, 03:53 PM

Any help?

whitehillbilly

whitehillbilly64

1st May 2025, 04:02 PM

Series 1 80 inch.
but gives you an idea of colours.

whitehillbilly

NobbyTD5

2nd May 2025, 08:24 AM

Hi whitehillbilly
Thank you ! These are great and do help to explain the set up a lot.
One question in your third photo - there looks to be a dark plate is that the metal disc/plate - in my photo? - attached. I had thought that that was behind the plate but now realise it might be on the pump side of the plate?
I will look into sourcing the bolts and the rubbers - thanks for the lead on where to buy those w.

I am thinking I have the right backing plate - once i get rid of old pump and flasher unit - then need to attach my new pump.
the 80" is a distance away from me in a shed and will have a look at it next week - with this new info.

Appreciate all the comments and photo's !

cheers

Nobby

Any help?

whitehillbilly

B.S.F.

2nd May 2025, 05:50 PM

80" setup. For details consult your parts catalogue.
.W.

whitehillbilly64

2nd May 2025, 06:34 PM

I made the plate out of thick rubber, as that what was fitted.
Didn't know it was solid?

whitehillbilly

B.S.F.

3rd May 2025, 07:57 AM

80" are aluminium, later ones steel.
.W.

NobbyTD5

3rd May 2025, 10:59 AM

Thanks Whitehillbilly
I have ordered the one I showed in a photo in earlier posts - soon see what it is made of.
Still bit unclear what side of the aluminium board/plate it goes
I guess a bit of trial and error
The rubber plate makes sense - it looked like rubber

Thanks !

cheers
Nobby

I made the plate out of thick rubber, as that what was fitted.
Didn't know it was solid?

whitehillbilly

NobbyTD5

3rd May 2025, 11:02 AM

BSF
Hi
thanks - yes I think mine is aluminium - which matches what you have said below.
I doesn't have any rust - which is why I was thinking it wasn't original - but now think it is likely to be

cheers

Nobby

80" are aluminium, later ones steel.
.W.

B.S.F.

3rd May 2025, 02:15 PM

Back view.
The two extra holes are for the nine-terminal regulators that were fitted to some models.
Again, consult your parts manual for details.
.W.

whitehillbilly64

3rd May 2025, 02:51 PM

Large washers, special bolts with locking hole. Rubber grommets which protrude to the other side.
Other side the rubber/Steel plate, which has holes that sit over the protruding grommets. Bolts then screw into the Fuel Pump body and are wire locked.
Two larger ones used.

whitehillbilly

NobbyTD5

4th May 2025, 07:37 AM

whitehillbilly
Thanks
that is very useful
I think I will be right to go now
just need to wait for the bolts and grommets to arrive
thank you!
cheers

Nobby

Large washers, special bolts with locking hole. Rubber grommets which protrude to the other side.
Other side the rubber/Steel plate, which has holes that sit over the protruding grommets. Bolts then screw into the Fuel Pump body and are wire locked.
Two larger ones used.

whitehillbilly

NobbyTD5

4th May 2025, 07:39 AM

B.S.F. thank you!
with the info that whitehillbilly and you have provided - I will be right to go - thanks!
cheers
Nobby

Back view.
The two extra holes are for the nine-terminal regulators that were fitted to some models.
Again, consult your parts manual for details.
.W.

NobbyTD5

6th May 2025, 12:28 PM

Quick Update

So received the vintage "plate" part in mail today and what looked like green coloured metal in the photo was actually black rubber, covered in a fine green dust
I guess as it was packed on 6/1957 (on packaging) - so had time to develop/gather a layer.
So that is exactly what you have whitehillbilly in your setup
A metal plate didn't make sense - but now does - its actually rubber

It didnt help that LRover describes it as a "Plate Petrol Pump Mounting"

will post a photo of it fitted when all the other bits arrive from UK and I get time to fit it

cheers

Nobby

Hi whitehillbilly
Thank you ! These are great and do help to explain the set up a lot.
One question in your third photo - there looks to be a dark plate is that the metal disc/plate - in my photo? - attached. I had thought that that was behind the plate but now realise it might be on the pump side of the plate?
I will look into sourcing the bolts and the rubbers - thanks for the lead on where to buy those w.

I am thinking I have the right backing plate - once i get rid of old pump and flasher unit - then need to attach my new pump.
the 80" is a distance away from me in a shed and will have a look at it next week - with this new info.

Appreciate all the comments and photo's !

cheers

Nobby