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LoadedDisco
4th September 2006, 01:21 PM
Had a call just before to say that Steve Irwin the Croc Hunter has passed today up North from a Sting Ray spike. He went into immediate cardiac arrest.
I thought a Croc would be the one to get him.


(R.I.P. CROC HUNTER)

Redback
4th September 2006, 01:29 PM
A Stingray spike:eek: i didn't think a sting from them was fatal, may have been an alergic reaction:(

Not good as annoying as he was, he was still very knowlegable about crocs and other animals and helping keep them from becoming exstinct.

Baz.

numpty
4th September 2006, 01:30 PM
Me too. Numpty just told me...I said "what croc?"
I'm not a huge fan but feel sad for his family and what the world environment will miss without him.

Numpty's Missus

Frenchie
4th September 2006, 01:35 PM
Strewth! :eek:

101RRS
4th September 2006, 01:36 PM
The spike went through his chest

Redback
4th September 2006, 01:38 PM
The spike went through his chest

Yep could of been the fact it speared him that killed him:eek:

Phoenix
4th September 2006, 01:43 PM
Yup, online as well

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html

kinda hard to believe!!

incisor
4th September 2006, 01:45 PM
the yanks will go nuts....

p38arover
4th September 2006, 01:51 PM
Crikey!

Ron

Slunnie
4th September 2006, 01:57 PM
Sad. Steve Irwin was a legend in my books.

RIP. My thoughts for his wife and kiddies also. :dbcry:

weeds
4th September 2006, 01:59 PM
i always thought he was a bit over the top, the kids loved him and visited his park the other week

sad to see him go

at times he stirs up animals to get a better shot on film i wonder if this contributed to his death

my six and three year always look out for his big bilboard advert on the side of the gateway

Reads90
4th September 2006, 02:00 PM
the yanks will go nuts....

also the Poms. He is on TV there every day. At any one time you can surf the UK TV and find him on somehwere

stevo68
4th September 2006, 02:09 PM
Yeah I just heard from my ex as she knew I was a bit of a fan, have been to the park quite a few times and the kids and I always enjoyed his shows on Animal Planet, very sad indeed:( , a man with his heart in the right place and also a family man with youngins, not good,

Regards

Stevo

dobbo
4th September 2006, 02:10 PM
A very sad day
He will be missed by my littlies as well.
He is a man that deserves a state funeral.

rocky2509
4th September 2006, 02:20 PM
He was a legend in my books.

He always put his money where his mouth is where conservation was concerned and was a great role model for kids to have.

It is very sad news.

cols110
4th September 2006, 02:31 PM
Just found the same thing whilst checking the news in OZ, I was`nt the biggest fan of his, but it is a bit of a shock after seeing some of the things he has done and to finally get taken out by a stingray.

Without a doubt he was a big TV personallity world wide, who will be missed. I bet if you conducted a poll world wide he would be one of the most reconised Australains, far more so than our Prime Minister.

Omaroo
4th September 2006, 02:52 PM
A real shame. He was the larrikin that other countries - especially the USA - knew Australia by. Even though his wife understood that he played with death everyday, I doubt that she'd have seen this coming.

Condolences to their family.

Ace
4th September 2006, 03:04 PM
Yeah one of the staff came in and said they had heard it on the news before i left to come home.

As a big fan of the man i am pretty upset, i really liked him and had hoped i would have been able to get up to his zoo and see him in person. The way he used to get up close and personal with some of the worlds most deadly animals and never seem to come close to being bitten or stung or whatever made you feel as though he was imortal.

An ambulance officer made a statement in one of the news articles i have just been reading on the net and a sting ray sting isnt a problem, but when stung so close to the heart it causes a massive cardiac arrest. Irwin was stung and collapsed they called for medical attention and the medic hellicopter was sent out but he died on the boat before major medical attention reached him.

I really feel for Terry his wife and his two kids, its never a nice thing when a father of two is killed leaving two kids without a dad. Terry is in Tasmania trekking over some mountain they had to send police up to tell her. My sympathies to terri and all of Steve's family. Matt

discowhite
4th September 2006, 03:06 PM
Sad. Steve Irwin was a legend in my books.


mine too! australia could do with a few more characters like him!


phil

Bytemrk
4th September 2006, 03:08 PM
I didn't always agree with the way he carried on.... But there is no doubting... He was good for tourism... truely believed what he preached.... and was 100% fair dinkum..

You have to feel for his young family.. you can only hope the media don't make this time more painful for them that is already is...

He will be missed... and hopefully remembered for the good things he achieved..


Mark

VladTepes
4th September 2006, 03:09 PM
No one sees it coming. I'm sure we all, like Steve probably did this morning, wake up with thoughts of "What a great day" or "Off to work again" or whatever. No-one really expects it will be their last day on earth.

I reckon Steve is an Aussie Legend. And whatever anyone may think of his ideological leanings (conservationsit, land cruiser driver, all that) you would surely have to respect that he did indeed "put his money where his mouth is", buying properties in 'virgin' condition all over Australia in order to maintain their conservation value.

Yeah he was a little "over the top" for some but I for one would much rather hear someone saying "Strewth" "Crikey" and so on, rather than "Yo, Word to ya mutha". Nice that he exported Oz to the Yanks, when the traffic is usually one way the other direction.

So good on you Steve, thaniks for all the memories. You'll be missed for sure.

:thumbsup:

Phoenix
4th September 2006, 03:16 PM
apparently his missus is hiking around cradle mountain somewhere.

slipedisk
4th September 2006, 03:17 PM
Story goes they haven't been about to get hold of his misses, she's some where out of range in Tassy. the inlaws live in Beerwah and said they have seen him heaps and what you see on TV is what you get, speaks to the kids and parents on the street, love him or hate him atleast he never was a put on for the TV, plus he'd let us AJ's in for nothing. He spent alot of his own money buying land in Tassy for reserve's for the animals. Pity he's gone could think of 100 people to take his place.
The old man got stung in the ankle in the 70's fishing, apprently there's a form of radiation jell on the barb, I know and seen, till he died in 91 he always had heaps of problems.

MickG
4th September 2006, 03:44 PM
Sad day indeed. I have always liked the man as he has spent so much of his own money and life doing what he loved and has always remained true to himself and his love for animals. Lots don't like his style or enthusiasm but how many can sit back and say they lived as true as he did day in day out........as said before, what you see on TV was what you saw in real life.
A true Aussie who will be sadly missed. Thoughts go out to his wife and children who will no doubt never come to terms with hinm gone.

At least he went doing what he loved.

disconut
4th September 2006, 03:50 PM
So sad. I have seen him in person at his zoo and was there when he proudly showed his son "Bob" to the media. He was always in control. Great guy. I am in shock.

Trev.

DiscoTDI
4th September 2006, 05:01 PM
It is a sad day that this happened to Steve, I am shocked but not surprised:(

ericpicc
4th September 2006, 05:02 PM
:(And to think we were just making plans to head down to the zoo in the next few weeks.
Well such is life and to leave a family behind, it's a sad,sad thing to have happened.
Yep! I think Australia will miss him dearly.

harro
4th September 2006, 05:17 PM
Yep! I think Australia will miss him dearly.[/quote]


I think the WORLD will miss him dearly.

I can't believe it, the words 'bullet proof' always came to mind.

Behind that 'over the top' character there was so much knowledge and he has done so many amazing things.

A bloody stingray, I always thought a croc would get him.

Steve Irwin, R.I.P. Crickey mate you're a legend !:twobeers:

OLR-067
4th September 2006, 05:17 PM
Have to agree...it's a very sad day ... a total shock really..but if you must go ..best to be doin what you love ...living life to the full....inspirational bloke

paul

cheers
OLR-067

Walrover
4th September 2006, 06:04 PM
Can't believe he's gone.

You can't replace blokes like him. What a loss.

Thoughts and prayers with his family.

DEFENDERZOOK
4th September 2006, 06:25 PM
apparently he was out swimming when he got attacked by the stingray.....
they said he got the spike through the heart....?

stingrays dont attack except in self defence.....they would rather run.....
there has been only two other recorded cases of death from a stingray...steves makes three.....
they are supposed to be a placid animal.....

they are suspecting he may have provoked or made the stingray feel threatened for it to attack him......

they are calling it a freak accident......


i liked the guy......even if he was a little strange......he was an aussie true and through......

LoadedDisco
4th September 2006, 06:27 PM
:(And to think we were just making plans to head down to the zoo in the next few weeks.
Well such is life and to leave a family behind, it's a sad,sad thing to have happened.
Yep! I think Australia will miss him dearly.


That is the best thing for the family if everyone visits the park on the Sunshine coast and that little bit of entry fee will show a lot of support for the family to continue Steve's Legacy.

adm333
4th September 2006, 06:41 PM
Ditto the positive sentiments already conveyed.

You have to take your hat off to a bloke like Steve Irwin.

I have been told that Andrew Denton is replaying his famous interview with Steve Irwin tonight on Enough Rope (could be wrong).

RIP the crocodile hunter legend.

Dave

gruntfuttock
4th September 2006, 06:44 PM
They said that he was snorkeling with a camera man. The camera man said it was unprovoked, in fact he said did not even know he was attacked until he saw blood. They also said that the poison is NOT fatal BUT it does paralyze mussles, so if it did get him near the heart then the poision would paralyze any mussles in that area.

It is sad that we loose a man like that in such a way, and I feel for his family.

one_iota
4th September 2006, 06:50 PM
He didn't appeal to me as an entertainer but he was out there doing what he loved doing. Living life to the fullest...that is the only way to go...not in a nursing home.

The lesson there is get out and do it.

Yabbie
4th September 2006, 06:52 PM
The guy had been bitten tonnes of times from snakes to grazes with his croc's, sure the guy has invested heaps into conservation but I guess you have to reinvest allitle into what earned you your money.
Personally I didn't like the guys appraoch to making a show, I mean if the Idea of the show is to create awareness of endangered animals stirring them up for the cameraa doesn't do the animals any favours.
For some reason we have this miss belief that we are top of the food chain, Sure in our eliment maybe.
But place us in the ocean and there are more nasties in there then you can poke a stick at.
Stirring up any animal is dangerous stirring up an animal with the ability to kill you is stupid.
He's shows aren't the sort of message want to give my 2 boys.

Shame his kids will suffer as a result of his stupidity, But that is generally how it happens.

Sad day in the lives of his 2 kids. I feel more for them.

JDNSW
4th September 2006, 07:05 PM
A loss to the country, and particularly to his family.
John

Ace
4th September 2006, 07:23 PM
Was just watchin ACA at the local club whilst out for dinner and the word is;

1) He was filming a doco when the stingray struck him to the chest, they performed mouth to mouth until the careflight chopper arrived but they were unable to revive him. (this was straight from the choppers doctor)

2) Terri knows, she was told by the local police and is on her way back to QLD at the moment.

3) Channel nine are hosting a tribute show on wednesday night at 7:30pm

4) one of the guys from channel 9 will be at the Zoo tomorrow on the Today show.

Matt

goofyr
4th September 2006, 07:46 PM
its definitely a big loss :(...I feel for his family...he'll be missed

DRUT
4th September 2006, 07:56 PM
He was almost becoming an Aussie Icon too. RIP Stevo.

Ralph1Malph
4th September 2006, 08:17 PM
A sad day.:(
Thoughts and prayers to Terri, Bindi and Bob.:(



You know, I always think when tragedy strikes someone adored by millions that why couldn't it happen to someone who deserves it.:mad:
I could easily rattle off a few dozen workers in my building that I would be happy to offer up as replacements.

I agree with a previous post, get down or up to Australia Zoo, they need the support, it's a top place.

RIP the Croc Hunter........:(

Jojo
4th September 2006, 09:18 PM
Our sincerest condolence to his family from this end of the globe! We saw him doing his show there at Australia Zoo several times, and the children loved it! At least he died out there, and not in an intensive at hospital!

rangieman
4th September 2006, 09:22 PM
all i can say its a sad day in oz as we have lost a great ambassadore to our country my thoughts to his family:(

kie4
5th September 2006, 12:26 AM
My thoughts to steves family and friends.
Thanks for what you have achived with your wildlife program.
with humans in control how long will wild life last ?

DirtyDawg
5th September 2006, 04:45 AM
Tis a Sad day, best ambassador we ever had:(
My ol man got it in the wrist by a ray once and its the poison which sent him into anaphalatic shock, lucky for me my brother in law was there and he is super allergic to bees and carries a addy pen so I wacked the old man with it til we got to hospital...3 years ago and around the scar is till numb.
complacency will always get you:(
Don't rest in peace Steve, chase the basta-rds around heaven as you have enough spirit for 10 blokes. God Bless mate:twobeers:

What shi-ts me off is wan-kers like Osama bin lden live doing what he is doing, And a family man like steve got killed, if there is a God he is a practical joker of he enth degree.

boggo
5th September 2006, 08:48 AM
It is a sad day that this happened to Steve, I am shocked but not surprised:(

Me too.A sad day for wildlife conservation around the world,his missus,kids and family,and all of Australia in general.RIP an aussie legend(if not a bit of a ratbag too):o

loanrangie
5th September 2006, 11:33 AM
Sad. Steve Irwin was a legend in my books.

RIP. My thoughts for his wife and kiddies also. :dbcry:

Totally agree, i think he encaptured the spirit that makes australia a great country, i wish i had got to meet the bloke before he passed, a very pasionate man about the enviroment and our indigenous fauna and he will be sorely missed. Yes he was a larrikin but thats what we are !

Outlaw
5th September 2006, 12:10 PM
yeah he wasn't attacked, the filmer reported the stingray just flicked it's tail as it swam off and Steve was above it and got clipped... basically a freak accident

weeds
5th September 2006, 12:48 PM
unfortunity the jokes are already circulating about steve, at first i didn't see the funny side of the joke, well i still don't see the funy side, well thought out though

in saying that i sometimes get a laugh out of jokes related to other people misfourtunes that come via email

nah won't post on this post, i'm sure everybody will get it in an email soon

Outlaw
5th September 2006, 12:51 PM
Just post in the Mud Pit Weeds... or forward to me ;)

weeds
5th September 2006, 12:58 PM
i think its right for the general forum, just bad taste 24hr after the event

Mud_Bogger6
5th September 2006, 01:05 PM
:dbcry: Rest In Peace, Though the Body is gone His spirit will live on in the heart of Australia and beyond:dbcry:

CraigE
5th September 2006, 02:09 PM
Yep,
I thought he was a bit of a dork, but respected him as he was passionate in his belief's. My kid's absolutely loved him.
My sincerest thoughts go out to Terri, Bindi and Bob Bob.
I have swum with sting ray's heaps of times and it has made me stop and think. You would have to be damn unlucky to get the barb in the heart.
Australia has lost a character.
:( :(

edddo
5th September 2006, 02:28 PM
I feel so much for his family.......a man who is so BIG and full of life...............what kind of a hole does that leave in his families lives? Its gonna be hard for them.
He was a unique man, dont think I,ve ever seen anyone so rawly and transparently emotional, or anyone with quite so much energy. Like he said on the Denton interview..something like..."I'm on fire, I'm on fire when I wake up in the morning...I just cant do enough!" Unreal, what a way to live.

Ace
5th September 2006, 02:38 PM
yeah he wasn't attacked, the filmer reported the stingray just flicked it's tail as it swam off and Steve was above it and got clipped... basically a freak accident

Yeah, thats what they said on the Today show this morning, just the wrong place at the wrong time. He did pull the spike out before he lost conciousness they the camera crew hauled him into the boat and comenced CPR until the chopper arrived, the doctors then tried to revive him on land but were unable to do so.

Apparently it is on the front page of every paper in the world just about, just shows how popular and loved he was by all. Matt

VladTepes
5th September 2006, 02:46 PM
Went over to the nephews' place last night. The oldest is 7 and they had been planning a trip to Australia Zoo next weekend. Brandyn was really looking forward to it - he's quite a fan of Steve. He was, of course, very upset my the fact that Steve died, and you've never seen such a young kid so interested in watching the TV news in your life.

Ace
5th September 2006, 02:52 PM
I am a bit dissapointed because marcos will never get the opportunity, nor will i, to meet steve or see him in person. Its just a good thing that he will never be forgotten and all we need to do to see him is turn on the telly.

Dont forget Channel 9 is doing a tribute show for him at 7:30pm tomorrow night. Matt

UncleHo
5th September 2006, 04:51 PM
R. I. P. Steve Irwin,

His knowledge was gained by watching and learning from his parents, worth more than years of book learning, practical knowledge gives one a feel for things, that you demonstrated most ably in your shows, both live and screened, but when fate decrees that you leave us so be it. R.I.P. Crocs Rule!!!!!!!

Coastie
5th September 2006, 04:59 PM
He was a really genuine bloke, I met him at the Zoo and also in the surf at Currimundi a couple of years back. The only time I've seen him quietly going about his business. Got in had a few waves and then got out and went back up the beach away from most of the others out there.

He will be sadly missed by all my family. Sad for his kids and friends, he was at the pinnacle of what he did. If only we all got that much out of our work and play.

Get out to the Zoo if you can its a great experience.

harro
5th September 2006, 05:12 PM
Apparently the road past his zoo was almost at a standstill with people passing their respects etc.

I have felt hollow all day.

A state funeral would be fitting for someone who has done so much for this country.

A True Adventurer, a True Australian and above all an inspiration for people to get out and appreciate what this country has to offer.

Be at peace Steve, you will not be forgotten.:twobeers:

Ace
5th September 2006, 06:58 PM
I have felt hollow all day.

Know how you feel mate, i have been a big fan from the moment he appeared on TV years ago, i dont think the death of a celebrity has ever bothered me, but this one has. Matt

p38arover
5th September 2006, 07:17 PM
Apparently the road past his zoo was almost at a standstill with people passing their respects etc.

I don't doubt it. I wonder if the bloke who wrote this will now feel foolish:


As an Australian I can reveal to you all that Steve Irwin is the biggest practical joke ever played on the airwaves. He has zero credibility in his home country and is regarded as nothing less than a buffoon. Just because you don't get the joke doesn't make him brilliant!

Ron

Ralf_the_RR
5th September 2006, 10:02 PM
The guy had been bitten tonnes of times from snakes to grazes with his croc's, sure the guy has invested heaps into conservation but I guess you have to reinvest allitle into what earned you your money.
Personally I didn't like the guys appraoch to making a show, I mean if the Idea of the show is to create awareness of endangered animals stirring them up for the cameraa doesn't do the animals any favours.
For some reason we have this miss belief that we are top of the food chain, Sure in our eliment maybe.
But place us in the ocean and there are more nasties in there then you can poke a stick at.
Stirring up any animal is dangerous stirring up an animal with the ability to kill you is stupid.
He's shows aren't the sort of message want to give my 2 boys.

Shame his kids will suffer as a result of his stupidity, But that is generally how it happens.

Sad day in the lives of his 2 kids. I feel more for them.

My thoughts exactly.
Last time I was at the reptile park on the Central Coast, I spoke to a few of the handlers.
They didn't say too many good things about his antics.
But hey, that's their opinion. Who am I to judge who is right and who is wrong.
He was very passionate about his work, and I think he inspired many to care about the environment, and that's a good thing.

LoadedDisco
5th September 2006, 10:50 PM
Know how you feel mate, i have been a big fan from the moment he appeared on TV years ago, i dont think the death of a celebrity has ever bothered me, but this one has. Matt

I have to Concur with Ace.

He was a true Legend and he gives you a look how a true country Aussie bloke (Hard To Find now days) is like hard as nails and any risk is an adventure.

Its hard to fathom his loss.

incisor
6th September 2006, 05:17 AM
germaine greer's comments sparked a little controversy, oddly enough :P

broonski
6th September 2006, 01:00 PM
It's been a sad time throughout the country and the world...

I, for one, have felt hollow ever since hearing about this tragic incident...

Steve is a bloody legend! There will never be anyone who can take his place or even get anywhere near it!
To get out there and do what, and as much as he did every day for Australia, the environment and wildlife all over the world is truly an inspiration!

He's been one of my heroes ever since he first came on telly, and it's always been my dream to meet Steve and to do what he did for a living!

My heart goes out to Steve's family and friends...

To a true blue Aussie! :twobeers:
A life well lived, but tragically cut short...

cheers,
bryce

Mud_Bogger6
6th September 2006, 01:02 PM
You said It mate

LoadedDisco
6th September 2006, 06:09 PM
Tribute show on tonight channel Nine at 7:30pm.

barney
6th September 2006, 06:22 PM
well, you live by the sword, you die by the sword. is life was mucking around with dangerous animals. that's what he loved and he died doing what he loved. i hope when i go, i go doing something or someone i love. either that or p1$$1ng some one off:twisted: .
even though he was a little odd, he was entertaining and will be greatly missed, and although i recieved the first of many tasteless jokes about his death by monday afternoon, i wont be sharing them on this thread.
i'm a ba$tard, but not that big a Ba$tard

harro
6th September 2006, 06:28 PM
Tribute show on tonight channel Nine at 7:30pm.
Don't know about you lot but I'm going to put the telly on:twobeers:

NOW

VladTepes
7th September 2006, 08:50 AM
I still feel so sorry for his kids - must be so hard to lose a Dad that young especially for Bindi who'll remember him well, poor little Bob will never know him really.

As far as comments that have been made about stirring up animals, die as you live etc etc. the police viewed the footage of his death (they were filming a documentary at the time) and said that at no point was he tormenting the ray - simply swimming past. Just INCREDIBLY bad luck.

As far as the footage goes, I hope to hell that whoever has it now (probably the police service) don;t let it "leak" into the public domain. because it would eventually end up on the 'net. No-one needs to see footage of people dying, and the long term harm it could do to Terri and the kids would be horrible.

As far as Germaine Greer's comments go. I'm angry at her, she's a vindictive psycho-nutter IMHO. However I am far MORE angry at 'A Current Affair' (and others) for giving her a mouthpiece for her vindictive twaddle.

They say there will be some sort of memorial built for Steve. Not sure what they have in mind but let's hope it's tasteful. Not sure what bigger monument there could be than the excellent Australia Zoo.

In the interests of fairness however we should also build monuments to other Australians. Like Germaine Greer. A urinal seems fitting.

muddy69
7th September 2006, 08:58 AM
All I'll say is that Greer is a slag..

She has no respect for a man that has done more for conservation and tourism in this country than anyone else I know. He will be sadly missed by all and this is coming from a person who wasn't Steve's greatest fan.

She should crawl back under the rock from which she sprang.

Reads90
7th September 2006, 09:09 AM
I still feel so sorry for his kids - must be so hard to lose a Dad that young especially for Bindi who'll remember him well, poor little Bob will never know him really.


As far as Germaine Greer's comments go. I'm angry at her, she's a vindictive psycho-nutter IMHO. However I am far MORE angry at 'A Current Affair' (and others) for giving her a mouthpiece for her vindictive twaddle.


In the interests of fairness however we should also build monuments to other Australians. Like Germaine Greer. A urinal seems fitting.

Agree with you Vlad. I lost my dad last year. He was killed in a car accident. I was 33 and hit me hard and still does. So i feel for the kids too.


But as for that thing Greer. She lives in the Uk and when i was there we have to put up with her crap that she goes on about all the time. She was in the Big Brother house in the Uk the year before last (it was a celb one)
When i was back there about a couple of months ago she was on a game show for celbs. Sort of talks about what news goes on it the week, with Jimmy Carr. It goes out at 7pm on a Sunday night and they were taking the **** pout of her and telling her she should be at home cooking the dinner and make the blokes sandwiches for lunch on monday. Cor should she her go when they say that to her:D

VladTepes
7th September 2006, 09:18 AM
Yeah she's a far from Steve Irwin as ots possible to be.

Steve was a VERY proud Australian.

Germaine Greer shirks at being labelled Australian. I belive there's a 'walk of fame' thing at Circular Quay with quotes from various famous people. Germaine says she will never return to Australia until it's returned to its original inhabitants, or something. The fact she says she won't return is worded as a threat ! I hope its a promise. No wonder so many Poms want to move to Australia. LOL

Mud_Bogger6
7th September 2006, 09:19 AM
All I'll say is that Greer is a slag..

She has no respect for a man that has done more for conservation and tourism in this country than anyone else I know. He will be sadly missed by all and this is coming from a person who wasn't Steve's greatest fan.

She should crawl back under the rock from which she sprang.


I'v Said it once and I'll say it again........ Damn Right

Reads90
7th September 2006, 09:37 AM
Yeah she's a far from Steve Irwin as ots possible to be.

Steve was a VERY proud Australian.

Germaine Greer shirks at being labelled Australian. I belive there's a 'walk of fame' thing at Circular Quay with quotes from various famous people. Germaine says she will never return to Australia until it's returned to its original inhabitants, or something. The fact she says she won't return is worded as a threat ! I hope its a promise. No wonder so many Poms want to move to Australia. LOL

Yeah i read that in sydney and was horrified that a so called Aussie could say that. and thats from a pom

I think it is you way at getting back at poms. You sent us her and Rolf Harris:D

Ok rant starting turn away if you are offened

And after all who is Australias original inhabitants , its not the Aborignals as they came here anyway.As they all say they came here 40-50,000 years ago. and after traveling around the whole of Aus. If they want it back they should learn how to treat the bit they have at the moment. If it was given back to them the place would be a s***t heap in about 10years, if any of their towns are to go by. Lovely country , lovely sceny but crap everywhere when you get to aborignal areas, and i mean everywhere.
You were concered by the world superpower of the time, get over it and live on, The rest of them did ,
And the Aus goverment stop feeling guilty for it, you did nothing it was us English that did it so blame us. We don't care anyway we have done alot worse in our history than that.

Ok rant over

dobbo
7th September 2006, 09:59 AM
Yeah i read that in sydney and was horrified that a so called Aussie could say that. and thats from a pom

I think it is you way at getting back at poms. You sent us her and Rolf Harris:D

Ok rant starting turn away if you are offened

And after all who is Australias original inhabitants , its not the Aborignals as they came here anyway.As they all say they came here 40-50,000 years ago. and after traveling around the whole of Aus. If they want it back they should learn how to treat the bit they have at the moment. If it was given back to them the place would be a s***t heap in about 10years, if any of their towns are to go by. Lovely country , lovely sceny but crap everywhere when you get to aborignal areas, and i mean everywhere.
You were concered by the world superpower of the time, get over it and live on, The rest of them did ,
And the Aus goverment stop feeling guilty for it, you did nothing it was us English that did it so blame us. We don't care anyway we have done alot worse in our history than that.

Ok rant over

Have you vented now, you winging pom?
























Yes I can say that I'm one too.

Reads90
7th September 2006, 10:03 AM
Have you vented now, you winging pom?



Yes I can say that I'm one too.

Yeah :D but got to keep winging. i have an image to keep up:D
Winging pomy wa**er and proud of it:D

Ace
7th September 2006, 10:05 AM
Tribute show on tonight channel Nine at 7:30pm.

Yeah i watched, very good.

One thing that Bindi and Bob do have to remember their father by that most kids dont have if they loose their father is endless hours of video footage of him being himself, everywhere he went his camera crew went to, even into the labour ward minutes after terri had given birth the camera crew was there, not many kids have that.

As for the footage, Steve's manager John has said that he (and steve's production company) owns the rights to the footage and he has said it will never see the light of day, and damn right it shouldnt. I for one am all for them making a doco out of the footage he made during his last days, but i draw the line at them broadcasting his death for all to see, Bindi, Bob and Terri dont need to relive that everytime some network shows it. Matt

stevo68
7th September 2006, 10:10 AM
Look I must admit, I have to enter this rant, if anything to just get it off my chest. I just read what the bitter, twisted **** wrote/ said on a Current Affair. If she dropped off the face of the earth, what would be the reaction............"ding dong the witch is dead" perhaps. Nothing annoys me more whether it be the likes of her, or anybody else who says things about this country of ours and either doesnt live here, or worse does. Easy answer, bugger off back to where you came from. I will also say that class has nothing to do with where you are from, what your paypacket is, but in the integrity of the person, and in times like this, if one doesnt have anything nice to say, then keep your trap and comments to oneselve. In Steve Irwins case, I think the fact that one person can have such a worldwide affect is a testament to itself, and his family and as Aussies, that is something we should all be proud of. Embaressment my ****, if that is embarrassing as she states it, then bring it on. Ahhh thats better :D

Regards

Stevo

Ace
7th September 2006, 10:13 AM
Look I must admit, I have to enter this rant, if anything to just get it off my chest. I just read what the bitter, twisted **** wrote/ said on a Current Affair. If she dropped off the face of the earth, what would be the reaction............"ding dong the witch is dead" perhaps. Nothing annoys me more whether it be the likes of her, or anybody else who says things about this country of ours and either doesnt live here, or worse does. Easy answer, bugger off back to where you came from. I will also say that class has nothing to do with where you are from, what your paypacket is, but in the integrity of the person, and in times like this, if one doesnt have anything nice to say, then keep your trap and comments to oneselve. In Steve Irwins case, I think the fact that one person can have such a worldwide affect is a testament to itself, and his family and as Aussies, that is something we should all be proud of. Embaressment my ****, if that is embarrassing as she states it, then bring it on. Ahhh thats better :D

Regards

Stevo

I saw ACA last night and up until then i hadnt heard of her so that has to say something. Steve's manager said it best on the Tribute afterwards "Germaine who?"

I agree steve, its unecessary to carry on with that crap but utterly tatseless to be carrying on with it now. Matt

VladTepes
7th September 2006, 10:15 AM
Yeah Ace all that footage you mention would be great for the kids, though also might be hard to take at the same time.

p38arover
7th September 2006, 10:32 AM
Odd, ain't it. Most Aussies I know think Germaine Greer is an embarrassment to Australia.

Ron

xrover
7th September 2006, 11:03 AM
Sure he was over the top.
And yes, the Bob incident was a bit tough to take.
But, I stayed up watching all the news about his death.
My kids stayed up with me (15,12,8)
They talked about it my kids schools.
How many other "regular" guys could affect so many on the other side of the world? His funeral will be attended (will it be a state funeral or private) physically by the invited, and emotionally by millions across the world. We should all be so blessed.
RIP Steve Irwin.

Mud_Bogger6
7th September 2006, 12:52 PM
His Father said that Steve wouldn't want a state Funeral because he was just an average bloke.

harro
7th September 2006, 03:06 PM
All I'll say is that Greer is a slag..

She has no respect for a man that has done more for conservation and tourism in this country than anyone else I know. He will be sadly missed by all and this is coming from a person who wasn't Steve's greatest fan.

She should crawl back under the rock from which she sprang.
She has been a career man hater.
It's about what one would expect from the THING! :rocket:

VladTepes
7th September 2006, 03:43 PM
I just got this in an email:



What a shock to lose such an Aussie icon as Steve Irwin. In respect to him, his family and friends lets all turn our front porch light or a light that can be seen , on friday night the 8th of September to show his loving wife Terry and his beautiful kids Bindi and Bob that we are all thinking of them.

Please send this to all the people that you have in your contacts (even me so I know you sent it on) and lets light up Australia for the only true AUSSIE ICON.





Almost sounds like Energex or someone is at work behind the scenes. Anyone else heard of this or know where it originates ?

Mud_Bogger6
7th September 2006, 05:02 PM
No mate I recieved a different one by SMS the thing is I accidentaly Deleted it:wallbash:

Ace
7th September 2006, 08:00 PM
I got the one you sent me bogger, i fowarded it to every AULRO members phone number i have stored in my phone. Matt

harro
7th September 2006, 08:29 PM
His Father said that Steve wouldn't want a state Funeral because he was just an average bloke.

Thats the great contradiction.

It's blokes like that, that deserve state funerals.

Like the outpouring of emotion from people that weren't even great fans,

It's pure irony, "you don't know what youv'e got till it's gone"

Mud_Bogger6
7th September 2006, 08:39 PM
True But that's what he said. I reckon he deserves one

Grizzly_Adams
7th September 2006, 09:37 PM
Never a big fan of his myself, thought he was a downright twit for some of the antics he got up to.

However I did respect him for the efforts he put into conservation, and the fact he was willing to go out there and be a show-off to get the tourist $$$'s in - that he could then funnel those $$$'s into his conservation efforts.

R.i.P. Steve Irwin.

Yabbie
7th September 2006, 10:21 PM
Who was it that said "Never work with children or animals on TV"
perhaps theres a lesson there.

Redback
8th September 2006, 06:51 AM
Who was it that said "Never work with children or animals on TV"
perhaps theres a lesson there.

"W.C.Fields"

Ace
8th September 2006, 07:40 AM
I think he deserves a state funeral. In the end it is of course up to the family but there are millions of people who will want to see a thing like Princess Di's funeral on TV so they can get closure. In the end its closure for the family thats most important and we must repspect their wishes regardless of how we feel or how much we disagree. Matt

MickG
8th September 2006, 07:51 AM
Without a doubt he deserves a state funeral however as they have declined this, something on a pretty large scale will have to be considered due to the amount of people wanting to show their respects and support to the family. Suncorp stadium was mentioned as a possible venue for a remembrance service but I agree, the families wishes must be respected and as the family have said, he was "just an ordinary bloke" who turned out to be an extraordinary bloke who touched millions without really knowing it.

Still a crying shame he has gone:(

Ace
8th September 2006, 09:40 AM
Without a doubt he deserves a state funeral however as they have declined this, something on a pretty large scale will have to be considered due to the amount of people wanting to show their respects and support to the family. Suncorp stadium was mentioned as a possible venue for a remembrance service but I agree, the families wishes must be respected and as the family have said, he was "just an ordinary bloke" who turned out to be an extraordinary bloke who touched millions without really knowing it.

Still a crying shame he has gone:(

No doubt the TV networks will try and organise some sort of coverage or something. Matt

Mud_Bogger6
9th September 2006, 01:57 PM
Of course they will, blood sucking leeches, if it's big Tv tries to get in on it

Ace
10th September 2006, 08:59 AM
Just read in the paper yesterday that there is a memorial service planned at Suncorp stadium as suggested earlier. Its now confirmed there will be a memorial service and planning for the event will take place after the funeral. Matt

LoadedDisco
10th September 2006, 05:57 PM
Ace,
Did the paper article mention a date for the public service.

Ace
10th September 2006, 07:33 PM
Ace,
Did the paper article mention a date for the public service.

No mate, they just said it would be within a couple of weeks or so of the funeral which according to the radio news stacey heard today was held secretly yesterday. John Stainton, Steve's manager said he was going to organise the memorial service so that his fans and supporters world wide would be able to have closure and say goodbye. I am sure we will hear more of this over the next week or so, now the Family has been able to say good bye and have the funeral as a means of closure they will be able to start picking up the pieces and begin to move on, as hard as that will be, i am sure the planning for the event will get under way this week. Matt

cal415
10th September 2006, 11:37 PM
No mate, they just said it would be within a couple of weeks or so of the funeral which according to the radio news stacey heard today was held secretly yesterday. John Stainton, Steve's manager said he was going to organise the memorial service so that his fans and supporters world wide would be able to have closure and say goodbye. I am sure we will hear more of this over the next week or so, now the Family has been able to say good bye and have the funeral as a means of closure they will be able to start picking up the pieces and begin to move on, as hard as that will be, i am sure the planning for the event will get under way this week. Matt

Just been reading about the funeral, apparently there was a small funeral at a church nearby Australia Zoo, followed by a burial, He was buried on the grounds at Australia Zoo.

I still cant beleive it, Ive just spent most of the day watching the 24 hour Croc Hunter Marathon/Tribute on Animal Planet, He was a great man, talented, entertaining and he really knew his animals. He will surely be missed.....

Ace
12th September 2006, 07:55 AM
Just been reading about the funeral, apparently there was a small funeral at a church nearby Australia Zoo, followed by a burial, He was buried on the grounds at Australia Zoo.

I still cant beleive it, Ive just spent most of the day watching the 24 hour Croc Hunter Marathon/Tribute on Animal Planet, He was a great man, talented, entertaining and he really knew his animals. He will surely be missed.....

Yeah i spent most of sunday watching that aswell, i particularly enjoyed the one about the camera men, that was funny.

Just heard on the news this morning on sunrise that the memorial will be held at suncorp stadium either next tuesday or wednesday. matt

stevo68
12th September 2006, 08:36 AM
I still cant beleive it, Ive just spent most of the day watching the 24 hour Croc Hunter Marathon/Tribute on Animal Planet, He was a great man, talented, entertaining and he really knew his animals. He will surely be missed..... Ditto, Ive been watching it with the kids, and you forget what has happened until you see the news again that night. Some great footage and the good thing is that the legacy will live on,

Regards

Stevo

Mud_Bogger6
12th September 2006, 12:58 PM
Yeah it was great, me and the kids enjoyed the big crock diaries and are going to rewatch collision course soon

cal415
13th September 2006, 12:14 PM
Here is a nice tribute song about The Croc Hunter - Steve Irwin
http://mp3.news.com.au/bcm/goodbyecrocodilehuntercolinbuchanan160.mp3


It has also been announced that the memorial service will be held next wednesday at 9am - at Australia Zoo.
http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=131267&region=7

Mud_Bogger6
13th September 2006, 01:08 PM
Thanx I will try to catch that

LoadedDisco
13th September 2006, 08:50 PM
Apparently it will be heald at the Zoo and only 5000 tickets.
It will be telecast live as well.

Mud_Bogger6
15th September 2006, 02:44 PM
There is Also some very insulting jestures towards Steve's legacy, I heard about a new internet game called "Terri's revenge" apparently you have to go around as Terri Irwin and kill all the stingrays. But what kind of message is that sending to the world, This is a massive insult because it goes against everything the Irwin family stood for. I guess there are just some sick, twisted B:soapbox:s in this world. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

VladTepes
15th September 2006, 03:44 PM
Yeah apparently someone found >12 stingrays killed in a small patch of Moreton Bay the other day. Someone's sick idea of revenge ?! Makes you wonder.....

Ace
15th September 2006, 05:59 PM
Here is a nice tribute song about The Croc Hunter - Steve Irwin
http://mp3.news.com.au/bcm/goodbyecrocodilehuntercolinbuchanan160.mp3


It has also been announced that the memorial service will be held next wednesday at 9am - at Australia Zoo.
http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region.php?id=131267&region=7

Will it be shown again that night, seems like and odd time to have it when everyone will be at work so wont be able to watch the live telecast. Will have to set the timer, i will be in wagga.

When is Brocky's funeral being telecast? matt

VladTepes
16th September 2006, 12:23 PM
It's a memorial service. It's not planned as a 'prime time TV event'. Though no doubt it will be much watched.

See ya later Steve. Give 'em hell up there in heaven !

LoadedDisco
18th September 2006, 05:02 AM
ACE,
The service that is being telecast on Wednesday at 0900am will be replayed the same day at 0500pm.
Dont forget Brocky's service on Tuesday at 1100am.

Mud_Bogger6
18th September 2006, 01:01 PM
ACE,
The service that is being telecast on Wednesday at 0900am will be replayed the same day at 0500pm.
Dont forget Brocky's service on Tuesday at 1100am.

Thanks mate I wanted to whatch it but wouldn't have had the chance
:D

cal415
20th September 2006, 09:17 AM
Just watched the service, it was good to see bindi get up and talk. Very brave!


Anyone else watch it?

broonski
20th September 2006, 09:27 AM
I watched it!

It was very brave of Bindi to say a few words!
It was a brilliant service... very touching...

cheers,
bryce

Reads90
20th September 2006, 09:34 AM
I watched it!

It was very brave of Bindi to say a few words!
It was a brilliant service... very touching...

cheers,
bryce

Just heard it on the Radio
will try and ctach it later on TV

weeds
20th September 2006, 09:46 AM
i missed the service but walked into the office just after it was finished and all the girls were re-appling ther makeup, i ask what had happened, they had just finished watching the service

will have to leave work easrly this afternoon to try and catch the replay

p38arover
20th September 2006, 10:37 AM
Am I the only one that thinks the whole Steve Irvwin treatment by the media has been a bit over the top? I didn't watch the service, BTW.

Maybe I'm a cynic but I wonder if the media were milking the story for their own benefit.

I accept he was well liked and I admire the man for what he did but .......

Oh, in no way do I endorse the comments by that witch, Germaine Greer.

Ron

incisor
20th September 2006, 10:43 AM
i am with you ron...

dont get me wrong, the guy was a great ambassator for AU on the idiot box

some other aspects werent so pretty, but i wont speak ill of the dead...

p38arover
20th September 2006, 10:51 AM
the guy was a great ambassator for AU on the idiot box

Oh, absolutely. He probably did more for tourism that "Where the bloody hell are you?" campaign.

When I first saw him, I wondered "What the....?" but soon realised his passion and commitment. Then I started to enjoy his ockerism. :D

Ron

xrover
20th September 2006, 10:58 AM
Caught here in Canada finishing up at 8:00pm our local time.
Nicely done.

stevo68
20th September 2006, 05:28 PM
Am I the only one that thinks the whole Steve Irvwin treatment by the media has been a bit over the top? I didn't watch the service, BTW.

Maybe I'm a cynic but I wonder if the media were milking the story for their own benefit.

I accept he was well liked and I admire the man for what he did but .......

Id have to disagree, if it wasnt for the media, people who were a fan etc wouldnt have the chance to be a part of a time like this, or any other time. When you are talking of a person who has had a world wide affect, the only way it can be shared is through the media. Does the media receive a benefit, of course, but does that matter??. It was like when Microsoft donate a large amount of $$$ to a charity and part of the deal was that they used Microsoft software etc and there was comments on the organisation having to use Microsoft. Again who cares, Microsoft receives a benefit but so does the foundation that received a huge help in funding.

Like anything different things affect different people and in this case personally am glad for the coverage for this sad time. Having just watched the tribute with the kids and seeing how people were, and myself, am glad that I got to share it, if only through the TV.

Regards

Stevo

LoadedDisco
20th September 2006, 06:18 PM
I agree with you Stevo.

p38arover
20th September 2006, 06:19 PM
Fair comment, Stevo.

Ron

one_iota
20th September 2006, 06:24 PM
It is about those who know what they are now missing having the opportunity to mourn their loss...and for those who didn't know to find out what they missed out on.

Quiggers
20th September 2006, 07:17 PM
I've worked in 'media' for thirty years, they'll milk it for everything, especially the news boys, my chosen profession sometimes....is a worry.

But it does have some positives

GQ

p38arover
20th September 2006, 07:27 PM
I freely admit I'd have liked to see Steve do one of his shows.

Ron

dobbo
21st September 2006, 06:27 AM
I freely admit I'd have liked to see Steve do one of his shows.

Ron

Likewise I wish I had taken my kids to see him.

Mud_Bogger6
21st September 2006, 03:13 PM
I always wanted to see him, So did the kids and missus but what can we do.... We're still going to the zoo when we get the chance, And add a bit extra to the entry fee for Terri, Bindi and Bob. Bindi has courage, standing up in front of millions and speaking so beautifully about Steve, they deserve it.

Ace
21st September 2006, 05:51 PM
Id have to disagree, if it wasnt for the media, people who were a fan etc wouldnt have the chance to be a part of a time like this, or any other time. When you are talking of a person who has had a world wide affect, the only way it can be shared is through the media. Does the media receive a benefit, of course, but does that matter??. It was like when Microsoft donate a large amount of $$$ to a charity and part of the deal was that they used Microsoft software etc and there was comments on the organisation having to use Microsoft. Again who cares, Microsoft receives a benefit but so does the foundation that received a huge help in funding.

Like anything different things affect different people and in this case personally am glad for the coverage for this sad time. Having just watched the tribute with the kids and seeing how people were, and myself, am glad that I got to share it, if only through the TV.

Regards

Stevo

I think stevo aswell that many members of the public, myself included also needed closure. I felt as though i had lost a close friend, thats the effect he had on people. There wasnt a state funeral so the public didnt get closure then so all this stuff in the media and the memorial just helps the public say their goodbyes. I havent seen the memorial as i was at uni all day and then driving back to lithgow from wagga when they all replayed it but i had it taped and will watch it tonight. I personally am very upset about his death and at the moment i havent been able to get enough of the stuff that the media is putting out as its hard to let go. Seems stupid to talk that way about a man i never met but thats how i feel. Matt

LoadedDisco
21st September 2006, 06:01 PM
I understand what you are saying Ace, as I have also felt sorrow for Steve Irwin and I have not met him eather. I am a wildlife person at heart and I have also lost a family member (My Mother) last week and these extra memorial services have helped me a lot with what people have said.
I have not had a day in the last two weeks I have not had a tear in my eye or many.

I did here today that they will be selling the Steve Irwin memorial on DVD so if you missed it or didnt tape it you will still be able to enjoy it.
It was a remarkable service. :cry:

Ace
21st September 2006, 06:35 PM
I understand what you are saying Ace, as I have also felt sorrow for Steve Irwin and I have not met him eather. I am a wildlife person at heart and I have also lost a family member (My Mother) last week and these extra memorial services have helped me a lot with what people have said.
I have not had a day in the last two weeks I have not had a tear in my eye or many.

I did here today that they will be selling the Steve Irwin memorial on DVD so if you missed it or didnt tape it you will still be able to enjoy it.
It was a remarkable service. :cry:

Fortnuately i had my grandparents tape it so i will be watching it later tonight. Matt

Mud_Bogger6
21st September 2006, 06:51 PM
I understand what you are saying Ace, as I have also felt sorrow for Steve Irwin and I have not met him eather. I am a wildlife person at heart and I have also lost a family member (My Mother) last week and these extra memorial services have helped me a lot with what people have said.
I have not had a day in the last two weeks I have not had a tear in my eye or many.

I did here today that they will be selling the Steve Irwin memorial on DVD so if you missed it or didnt tape it you will still be able to enjoy it.
It was a remarkable service. :cry:

That's for sure, I couldn't keep a dry eye through it

broonski
21st September 2006, 08:15 PM
That's for sure, I couldn't keep a dry eye through it

i couldn't either...

cheers,
bryce

LoadedDisco
27th September 2006, 05:55 PM
The QLD Govenment has come up with a great tribute to Steve by naming the road to Australia Zoo (Steve Irwin Way) road.

There will also be an interesting but emotional show on channel 9 at 0830pm tonight with Terri Irwin.

Ace
27th September 2006, 06:33 PM
I watched the Memorial on thursday night after i collected the tape from my grandparents as i was in wagga. I have never in my life cried during anything on TV, but i couldnt hold back the tears during the memorial. Funnily enough it wasnt bindi's speech that got me, it was his dads. When Bob told the viewers not to greive for steve and to grieve for the animals as they have lost the best friend they will ever have i lost it. His best mate Wes' speech also got me. A very fitting tribute to such a great man. Matt

Mud_Bogger6
27th September 2006, 07:34 PM
True

VladTepes
28th September 2006, 01:03 PM
Saw Ray Martin's interview with Terri last night.

Very moving but only becuase Terri is such a strong lady, with a wealth of love for Steve and her kids.

Ray 0 he's a c**** !

I don't understand why anyone would allow themselves to be interviewed by him. He's always going for the cheap "let's get them to cry" ratings ploy.

Some example questions:

"Did you love him too much?"

"Take me through the moment when you first found out..."

"Does it still break your heart ...?"

"and the fact you'll never see him again, how much pain does that couse you" (not an exact quote but something akin to that).

"Have you seen the video footage of his death?"


What an insensitive *****!

Then there was the bit where Terri was crying and he leant over and gave her a bit of a patronising pat on the knee. And as if that in itself wasn't enough, they actually edited the footage to ensure that got shown. I suppose they are trying to make out Ray tro be a real "man of the people" or something.

I hate the bugger !

RIP Steve !

Ace
28th September 2006, 01:31 PM
Saw Ray Martin's interview with Terri last night.

Very moving but only becuase Terri is such a strong lady, with a wealth of love for Steve and her kids.

Ray 0 he's a c**** !

I don't understand why anyone would allow themselves to be interviewed by him. He's always going for the cheap "let's get them to cry" ratings ploy.

Some example questions:

"Did you love him too much?"

"Take me through the moment when you first found out..."

"Does it still break your heart ...?"

"and the fact you'll never see him again, how much pain does that couse you" (not an exact quote but something akin to that).

"Have you seen the video footage of his death?"


What an insensitive *****!

Then there was the bit where Terri was crying and he leant over and gave her a bit of a patronising pat on the knee. And as if that in itself wasn't enough, they actually edited the footage to ensure that got shown. I suppose they are trying to make out Ray tro be a real "man of the people" or something.

I hate the bugger !

RIP Steve !

Yeah i thought some of his questions were a bit off, but she didnt seem to mind. I thought the did you love him to much question was a bit un called for, how can you love someone to much what a stupid bloody question. Matt

VladTepes
28th September 2006, 01:50 PM
WTF was he edpecting her to say ?

Ray: "Terri, Did you love him too much?"

Terri: (ponders brielfy) "You know Ray, on reflection, I think I may have loved him 20% too much".

Redback
28th September 2006, 02:45 PM
Yeah i thought some of his questions were a bit off, but she didnt seem to mind. I thought the did you love him to much question was a bit un called for, how can you love someone to much what a stupid bloody question. Matt

Some:twisted: all i reckon, and not only that, not one emotional responce from him, i think he's a pri*k:twisted:

Dam ratings whore:bat: :bat: :2up:

Baz.

dobbo
28th September 2006, 02:51 PM
but you all watched it so the reason he's still on air is the publics fault

I don't watch his interviews

edddo
28th September 2006, 05:35 PM
then again its not about Rays emotions-its about hers and we saw plenty-so from that perspective he did ok. Personally seeing ray crying and babbling wouldnt have added anything to it for me and probably would have stopped Terri from being as open-kind of taking the focus off her. I agree the 'did you love him too much 'was out of line...but I reckon it was so obvious how strong and passionately she loved Steve that he was attempting to say, 'with a love like that the grief has got to be massive'...and hence the inappropriate question. Anyway she told him plainly that she thought his proposition was krap..good on her. I'm not particularly a ray fan but thought he did as well as any journo I can think of would have.

I wonder about how Bindi will go living up to the piling expectations and how the 3yo boy(Forgot name) might go, as he grows up, with all this talk about how close Bindi and Steve were. Time will tell.

p38arover
28th September 2006, 06:01 PM
To be honest, I don't understand this public outpouring of grief over Steve Irwin (naturally, I exclude his family from that).

I didn't get as upset over my mother's death as you blokes seem to have got over Steve's. :eek:

I didn't watch the funeral service nor the interviews.

Ron

VladTepes
28th September 2006, 10:56 PM
I didn't get as upset over my mother's death as you blokes seem to have got over Steve's. :eek:
Ron

I think we'd be best to leave this well alone.

p38arover
28th September 2006, 11:45 PM
Maybe I'm Vulcan but it is illogical to get upset over the death of someone you don't know.

It's like the outpouring of grief over Sept 11 - I didn't know any of those that died, why should I be upset?

Bryce (Roverone) and I have discussed this. He misses his father who passed away a while back, I don't even think of my mother who died a few years ago - I can't remember when but it must have been about 6 years ago. I don't visit her grave, I don't see the point.

Ron

LoadedDisco
29th September 2006, 12:32 AM
I have just lost my mother a week ago and let me tell you it has been hard to take. The extra media coverage has help with what certain people have said about also loosing someone close to them.
Maybe Ron you didnt have a close family I dont know but I guess loosing someone close to you that has guided you through your hole life so far and has given so much to help in every way to have the rock in your life taken away leaves a big hole inside.

As far as Steve Irwin I did not know him did not meet him but I sure know him very well now and am greatfull to find out exactly what he stood for and to see a great parent in action. Sure why feel sad for someone you dont know. People are greaving for who he stood for and what he was a true family man you looked after his kids as all parents should and some could learn a lot from Steve. (As what was said its the little things, not how much money that makes a difference).
Ron I could go on all night about how thoughtless your coment was but, (Anyway).

VladTepes
29th September 2006, 07:40 AM
But speaking of Ray Martin:

from http://www.sydney.net/sydsyd/stupid.html

comes:


GENRE > AUSTRALIAN VERSIONS OF BARBARA WALTERS
http://www.sydney.net/sydsyd/ray.jpgNo list of Stupid Australian Personalities would be complete with the man I like to loathe, Ray Martin. Basically he has the aura of a softie, an interviewee's delight. He used to be on Australian current affairs shows like 60 Minutes and A Current Affair, and he actually did an OK job until he became a personality himself, commanding millions of dollars in salary.
Ray's lacqured hair in the late 1980s and early 1990s resembled that of a Lego toy. Ray got his own daytime television show and attracted old ladies with his charm and charisma and gentle handling of the week's hot topics. After steering clear of hard journalism, Ray continued to win those confounded Logie awards and began one-off Barbara Walters style shows where he interviewed celebrities such as Mel Gibson, Elton John and Brit teen pop idol Craig David who, according to his official bio (http://ninemsn.com.au/raymartin/), "hugged him like a brother". I kid you not. All the publicity, of course, equates to cross-promotional heaven for the celebrities and for Ray and his bosses.

stevo68
29th September 2006, 08:17 AM
Maybe I'm Vulcan but it is illogical to get upset over the death of someone you don't know.
No mate, I think its called being human. One may not have grieved over people in 9/11 because they may not have known someone, but may have been shocked and saddened by the loss of life. One may not know the poor unfortunates in 3rd world countries, but in my case donate to help where I can. I may not shed a tear, but at the same time, feel a sadness. Again I think that makes one human again. Steve Irwin, Brocky of recent, past icons whether Diana through to the King Of Rock n Roll, were people that meant something to the people that adored them.

Im still lucky to have both my parents and when the time comes, it will be a great loss. I dont expect the grieving of a nation, but of those close by. Why one cant feel loss or sadness for perhaps someone they admired but have never known personally, is I guess beyond me. Hell I got upset watching Eight Below a family movie, yet well know the puppies lived....cause it was a movie, again because I am only human.

Regards

Stevo

VladTepes
29th September 2006, 10:05 AM
Yeah Stevo but you're soft. We know this coz you bought one of those bloody Disco 3 things.

A real hard man would have bought an old bone rattler - like a Rodeo or a Hilux.

ROFL

Ace
29th September 2006, 01:58 PM
but you all watched it so the reason he's still on air is the publics fault

I don't watch his interviews

I watched it because i have the utmost respect for Terri and think she is a very stron woman, if she agreed to be interview by the slimy bastard i will watch it. I dont approve of what he said but she answered his questions with such strength and compassion. A truly remarkable woman. Matt

dobbo
29th September 2006, 02:18 PM
I watched it because i have the utmost respect for Terri and think she is a very stron woman, if she agreed to be interview by the slimy bastard i will watch it. I dont approve of what he said but she answered his questions with such strength and compassion. A truly remarkable woman. Matt

If they weren't famous would you still have watched? Or would the "Slimy Bastard" have even interviewed her in the first place?

High profile people have high profile lives and ultimately die high profile deaths, if he wasn't famous in the first place he most likely wouldn't have been out on the reef that day and would still probably be on the reptile farm with his family, the farm would just be a tad smaller.

I didn't watch it but I can gather from the responces here that it was a moving interview. But aren't all interviews of grieving families moving even if you didn't know the person?

Some members on this very forum leed very similar lives, if it was them and not Steve Irwin that got killed, would the 'Slimy bastrd' interview their widows? I think not.

I commend Steve for the life he lived, but ultimatelty it was all his and his wifes choice and the consequences of these choices did and could have happened anytime.

I only feel sorry for his kids, I think he should of left the lifestyle when they were born.

The interview was expected. Why are we all surprised?

MickG
29th September 2006, 02:24 PM
I think he should of left the lifestyle when they were born.

What...and never left the house again:eek: Come on, yes Steve's job was inherantly dangerous, but kids are no reason to stop what you have being doing your whole life:eek: If we all took that approach when kids came along we would never leave the house and what sort of up bringing is that for a kid. Looking at Bindi, it looks as if he and Terri have done a cracking job in the time Steve was around. had the same time been spent going stir crazy worrying about when he was going to die, Bindi might:angel: have turned out a bit different don't you think.

My 10c

dobbo
29th September 2006, 02:35 PM
What...and never left the house again:eek: Come on, yes Steve's job was inherantly dangerous, but kids are no reason to stop what you have being doing your whole life:eek: If we all took that approach when kids came along we would never leave the house and what sort of up bringing is that for a kid. Looking at Bindi, it looks as if he and Terri have done a cracking job in the time Steve was around. had the same time been spent going stir crazy worrying about when he was going to die, Bindi might:angel: have turned out a bit different don't you think.

My 10c

He could have gone into a more sedate roll in the organisation but still had an adventurous life. Yes they have done a remarkable job but is it finished? She isn't grown up yet is she?

MickG
29th September 2006, 02:39 PM
He could have gone into a more sedate roll in the organisation but still had an adventurous life. Yes they have done a remarkable job but is it finished? She isn't grown up yet is she?

I hear you dobbo, but where does it stop. Yes he could have done a less active role but then I think you would agree, that is just not Steve. Ultimately someone suffers, in this case the family but had he taken more of a back seat, he and the family would have suffered i'm sure from his frustration or yearning to be out there doing it.

I'm no phsycologist and merely speculating but I'm sure am not too far from a possible outcome had he removed himself from the danger aspect....publicity and ultimately focus on wildlife would have suffered too.

Interesting debate though with many angles

dobbo
29th September 2006, 02:52 PM
I hear you dobbo, but where does it stop. Yes he could have done a less active role but then I think you would agree, that is just not Steve. Ultimately someone suffers, in this case the family but had he taken more of a back seat, he and the family would have suffered i'm sure from his frustration or yearning to be out there doing it.

I'm no phsycologist and merely speculating but I'm sure am not too far from a possible outcome had he removed himself from the danger aspect....publicity and ultimately focus on wildlife would have suffered too.

Interesting debate though with many angles

I have kids and ambitions that have not been fulfilled as yet because of the kiddies, would I leave my kids and fulfill my dreams and desires, not for a millisecond. I have a responsible job I hate, but it pays the bills and provides a stable and descent lifestyle for my family.
Unless something unexpected happens I will see them grow up.

Extraordinary people have extraordinary lives and earn extraoridinary amounts of money but at a big price, they miss out on the basic and extraordinary things that there kids do on a daily basis.

Thats life isn't it

CraigE
29th September 2006, 03:11 PM
Let me pose this question. Should I give up my job for my kids because of the danger's?? I love my kids dearly and would do anything for them, but my job is my job and I love it.
My job does have its dangers, but something worth thinking about, what if it is you I need to help next time?? And I had given my job up?
For those of you who do not know I am an emergency response officer on a minesite. Yes there are inherent dangers with this job but most can be minimised. We also deal with a lot of public issues as well such as road accidents, hazchem spills, fires of all sorts.
Now I would not for a minute get in an enclosure with a Croc.

Vandermorph
29th September 2006, 05:05 PM
Brockie AND Steve in 1 week that was shockin they were both respected in our household

dobbo
29th September 2006, 05:12 PM
Let me pose this question. Should I give up my job for my kids because of the danger's?? I love my kids dearly and would do anything for them, but my job is my job and I love it.
My job does have its dangers, but something worth thinking about, what if it is you I need to help next time?? And I had given my job up?
For those of you who do not know I am an emergency response officer on a minesite. Yes there are inherent dangers with this job but most can be minimised. We also deal with a lot of public issues as well such as road accidents, hazchem spills, fires of all sorts.
Now I would not for a minute get in an enclosure with a Croc.

Your job is like mine mindless hours, upon hours of training and safety protocols drilled into you so if an incident happens you respond automatically without thinking.

You have not got that luxury when dealing with animals, I'm sure he had safety protocols and emergency staff on hand but like it or not he was in an extremely dangerous job (which paid obscene amounts of money) our jobs are a damn sight safer. Ask yourself would you enter a mine with no form of personal protective equipment?

Steve Irwin entered his worksite with none on a daily basis.

p38arover
29th September 2006, 11:46 PM
It could have happened to any of us that have or do go diving.

I dunno how many rays I've been near or how many sharks. The only ones that have given me a scare have been tigers and bronze whalers.

Ron

p38arover
29th September 2006, 11:52 PM
No mate, I think its called being human. One may not have grieved over people in 9/11 because they may not have known someone, but may have been shocked and saddened by the loss of life. One may not know the poor unfortunates in 3rd world countries, but in my case donate to help where I can.

One can be shocked by the events - but I fail to see why one would grieve. Re the Third World, I don't donate because it only makes things worse. The populations of a lot of Third World places is already out of control so helping to save even more of them is self-defeating. (late edit: I donate to Australian charities that do work here, e.g., Smith Family, Sallies, Vinnies).


Why one cant feel loss or sadness for perhaps someone they admired but have never known personally, is I guess beyond me.

As I said, it makes no sense to me.

Ron

cewilson
29th September 2006, 11:53 PM
It could have happened to any of us that have or do go diving.

I dunno how many rays I've been near or how many sharks. The only ones that have given me a scare have been tigers and bronze whalers.

Ron


I was thinking the same thing Ron. Just because I have children doesn't mean that I've stopped my diving at all. I will admit to backing off of the cave dives a little more, but I think that's more that I'm getting fear as I get older than responsibilities.

The same with your jobs. A lot of us work for Defence or emergency services. Yes there is a lot of training and safety etc, but that still doesn't mean that things don't go wrong. They do. Most of these jobs can be quite dangerous, but normally you don't hear anything about it because we "get away" with it so to speak.

I figure that when your times up, it's up. It could have been a car accident that got him. At least he passed away doing what he loves. There are a whole lot worse ways to go!

Cheers
Chris

p38arover
29th September 2006, 11:57 PM
Maybe Ron you didnt have a close family I dont know but I guess loosing someone close to you that has guided you through your hole life so far and has given so much to help in every way to have the rock in your life taken away leaves a big hole inside.

Well, I went to visit my brother this week (he lives 4km away and wasn't home). After talking to his missus, we realised we hadn't seen each other for about 3 years. A bit later we worked out I hadn't seen one of my sisters for more than 20 years and two of my brothers for even longer. Heck, I don't even know where they live.

I haven't seen my father for over a year but I have spoken to him twice this year (birthday and Fathers' Day). Some of my other sisters I haven't spoken to in over a year. Nothing to talk about.


Ron I could go on all night about how thoughtless your coment was but, (Anyway).

Please do. Which part of it?

Ron

VladTepes
30th September 2006, 12:02 AM
Well, I went to visit my brother this week (he lives 4km away and wasn't home). After talking to his missus, we realised we hadn't seen each other for about 3 years. A bit later we worked out I hadn't seen one of my sisters for more than 20 years and two of my brothers for even longer. Heck, I don't even know where they live.

I haven't seen my father for over a year but I have spoken to him twice this year (birthday and Fathers' Day). Some of my other sisters I haven't spoken to in over a year. Nothing to talk about.

Ron


That's a shame Ron.

Hey - get them a LR each and then you'll have plenty to talk about !



Oh, and Please Don't. (re the 2md part of the previous post)

p38arover
30th September 2006, 12:07 AM
That's a shame Ron.

No, I don't think so. I hardly know them.

Ron

VladTepes
30th September 2006, 12:12 AM
No, I don't think so. I hardly know them.

Ron

That's a shame Ron.

cewilson
30th September 2006, 12:14 AM
Ron, I think that a lot of us here are very close to our families, and to a certain extent our friends as well. I know that I have some friends that are basically part of the family now days. I think that each person is different. I personally speak to my parents each week. If I don't I get my ass kicked. I speak to my ex and the kids every couple of days. I know some people don't speak to their's for years.

I will however agree with Vlads that this is probably suited to another thread instead of this one which is directed at a different subject.

Cheers
Chris

p38arover
30th September 2006, 12:22 AM
I will however agree with Vlads that this is probably suited to another thread instead of this one which is directed at a different subject.

Yep. End of subject. Perhaps delete the (ir)relevant posts. My views will always differ from some of you. Some won't understand my views and I'll never understand theirs. That's diversity. We can't all think the same.

Don't worry, my family don't understand me either.

Ron

VladTepes
30th September 2006, 12:29 AM
Yep. End of subject. Perhaps delete the (ir)relevant posts. My views will always differ from some of you. Some won't understand my views and I'll never understand theirs. That's diversity. We can't all think the same.

Don't worry, my family don't understand me either.

Ron

Well said. I don't think we need delete any posts we'll just leave it there.

LoadedDisco
30th September 2006, 08:46 PM
Well said. I don't think we need delete any posts we'll just leave it there.

Vlad and Ron I agree.

(Anyway now on to Steve)