View Full Version : Poor old Toyota..... Clear that Spinifex when your in the Bush.
sclarke
8th September 2006, 05:13 PM
Guys,
These were sent to me today.
Not a good end result.
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rangieman
8th September 2006, 05:18 PM
mmmm the perils of out back travel:eek:
dobbo
8th September 2006, 05:21 PM
No fire extinguisher?
Things that spring to mind
The Pyro Prado
How to Pot roast a Prado
Burning rubber
Oh what a Feeling!!!!
I feel for tham but not having a fire extinguisher in the desert!
I hope everyone got out of it O.K
JDNSW
8th September 2006, 05:24 PM
Who was it said that underbody guards never collected flammable stuff?
Pedro_The_Swift
8th September 2006, 06:35 PM
a very expensive epirb,,,
must have been something with the spinifix???
oil?
Frenchie
8th September 2006, 06:40 PM
Those dry powder fire extinguishers are useless in a spinifex fire, may as well throw them at it.
Best thing is a garden sprayer filled with water.
Friend in the LROCWA was on a CSR trip many years ago and a Nissan decided to spontaneously combust. They all emptied their extinguishers on it and then retreated to a safe distance and watched it burn. :eek:
sclarke
8th September 2006, 06:54 PM
He He He He...............
Its a Toyota.........................
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:firedevil: :firedevil: :firedevil: :firedevil: :firedevil:
Burn you Jap peice of...................... CRAP....
He He.....:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
JDNSW
8th September 2006, 07:50 PM
a very expensive epirb,,,
must have been something with the spinifix???
oil?
Spinifex does tend to burn with black smoke, but it must have burnt through a fuel line early on - which then siphoned fuel into the fire. Had the same thing on an FJ40 when I was working in the Simpson forty years ago. (didn't start from spinifex - started by a petrol leak plus smoking, but was impossible to put out once a fuel line burnt through)
numpty
8th September 2006, 07:55 PM
How does the old add go " Oh What a Feeling "
Perry
Captain_Rightfoot
8th September 2006, 07:58 PM
Well if I was there I wouldn't have wee'd on it... LOL
one_iota
8th September 2006, 08:06 PM
It's a long walk home :eek: from there
loanrangie
9th September 2006, 10:14 AM
He He He He...............
Its a Toyota.........................
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
:firedevil: :firedevil: :firedevil: :firedevil: :firedevil:
Burn you Jap peice of...................... CRAP....
He He.....:twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
About the best thing you can do to a prado IMO - i hate them with a passion, bloody yuppy shopping trolleys.:wasntme:
sclarke
9th September 2006, 11:24 AM
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yep.... bloody Yuppy shopping trolleys, but damn capable in the bush........
i guess i look at any 4wd that is ugly and tough is a good 4wd..... these new Jap and god help me for saying so rangies..... look nice on tarmac, but id hate to use it hard in the bush.
I'm not saying they are not capable, becase they are.... sometime more than my defender, but who would want to try to fix one in the bush....
and i hate spending money on expensive things to scratch and dint them.... i like the old rough look.........:twisted:
Ace
9th September 2006, 12:29 PM
When a hot car parks in long dry grass like that, particularly petrols with the cat converter the hot exhaust simply sets the dry grass on fire. Subarus utes are notorius (nothing wrong with subies) for this because they are much lower as some cocky parks it in a paddock in long grass and then returns to an inferno. A friend of mine works for and agronomy company in the riverina and they arent allowed to have petrol work utes for this reason, if they drive into some farmers wheat crop to do some tests the hot exhaust on petrol engines sets the crop alight. Matt
JDNSW
9th September 2006, 01:25 PM
Last couple of summers there have been several cases round here where apparently someone has pulled off the bitumen to answer their phone etc, stopped for a few minutes and driven off leaving a patch of smouldering grass, which soon turns into a real fire - result of everything being so dry.
John
Bigbjorn
9th September 2006, 02:54 PM
Last couple of summers there have been several cases round here where apparently someone has pulled off the bitumen to answer their phone etc, stopped for a few minutes and driven off leaving a patch of smouldering grass, which soon turns into a real fire - result of everything being so dry.
John
I saw a Commodore burn roadside between Logan Village & Waterford. Hot cat. converter in dry grass. Firies at scene said this is a common occurence. To add some bush knowledge to the char-grilled Toyota scene, spinifex is a resinous plant and burns like gunpowder.
duff
9th September 2006, 03:45 PM
Nice fire :( ,,,, But check out the damage to the bull bar, :eek:
Must a had a bad day...........Thank god for insurance :cool: ............Perhaps:twisted:
wally
9th September 2006, 08:58 PM
Sclarke, where were those pictures taken?
1103.9TDI
9th September 2006, 09:25 PM
Jeeeze, check out how well that plastic burns, at least it sends a decent smoke signal. Hey doesn't aluminium burn with a white cloud??, God forbid!!..:o
sclarke
9th September 2006, 10:06 PM
Sclarke, where were those pictures taken?
No Idea, mate of mine in the CFA sent them to me......
RichardK
9th September 2006, 11:47 PM
There are two burnt out wrecks on the CSR, a Ford Explorer ............and............wait for it..............a Prado.
Both the result of picking up spinifex and were of course petrol engined
Pics in my gallery...................somewhere
DiscoTDI
10th September 2006, 08:06 AM
Scary thing is that it was a diesel:eek:.
It took a while for those headlights to go out though:twisted:
DiscoTDI
10th September 2006, 08:09 AM
Interesting that thing has had a good hit in the front too:eek:
p38arover
10th September 2006, 08:15 AM
I've looked at it and I can't see that it has had a good hit. I think that's the shape of the Prado bar - made to match the ugliness of the car.
Ron
loanrangie
10th September 2006, 08:58 AM
Interesting that thing has had a good hit in the front too:eek:
Thats what i thought but it maybe the heat warping that cheap jap steel, its not one of those plastic bars is it ?
duff
10th September 2006, 06:58 PM
Thats what i thought but it maybe the heat warping that cheap jap steel, its not one of those plastic bars is it ?
I think its an alloy bar. I would back that it has had a big hit,, it is a little more than heat would do( its bent before the engine bay is burnt), and one spot light missing.
And just another question, Why is everything unloaded at the front of the car, presumeably it was all in the back,, very strange me thinks:wasntme:
djam1
10th September 2006, 07:17 PM
Guys don’t take an attitude of pride and arrogance with this one this can happen to ANYTHING I have seen plenty of burnt out Land Rovers take precautions with any vehicle. (I like Jap crap less than most)
Spinifex dependant upon the time of the year is Bloo%dy dangerous some times you need to think outside the square with this stuff most mining companies remove the bash plates to overcome this issue. I’m not trying to be offensive but anyone who does this type of work and doesn’t take it seriously will pay the price.
Modern petrol powered vehicles with catalytic converters are more susceptible than but modern diesels are not immune to this problem.
LandyAndy
10th September 2006, 07:41 PM
Hi Guys
Its not only Tojos that have this problem.Im sure if you do a search on "The Calvert Expedition" I recall there were a couple of near misses with V8 Landies,cant remember wether D2 or P38,but they came close to doing a couple of desert V8 burnings(DONT TELL PEDRO)
Also,my ex employer flew past the workshop in his usual FLAT OUT PANIC MODE with parts for a broken down header.I now wish I hadnt noticed the blue smoke and burning grass smell as he went past,he would have torched both the new ****an pootrol ute,a brand new header and the paddock of wheat and all the others the fire got into.BUGGA
Andrew
Ace
10th September 2006, 07:53 PM
Hi Guys
Its not only Tojos that have this problem.Im sure if you do a search on "The Calvert Expedition" I recall there were a couple of near misses with V8 Landies,cant remember wether D2 or P38,but they came close to doing a couple of desert V8 burnings(DONT TELL PEDRO)
Also,my ex employer flew past the workshop in his usual FLAT OUT PANIC MODE with parts for a broken down header.I now wish I hadnt noticed the blue smoke and burning grass smell as he went past,he would have torched both the new ****an pootrol ute,a brand new header and the paddock of wheat and all the others the fire got into.BUGGA
Andrew
I know of many situations which have led to the loss of crops, expensive heads and other equipment because some farmer has ignored the risk and gone ahead with harvesting anyway, in the end what good is a crop that is off in time if you burn half of it.
I also heard of an incident where two kids caught a feral cat, covered it in petrol and lit it, where did it run to? Straight into dads largest wheat crop next to the house of course, they lost the lot, the kid isnt getting pocket money until he retires.
Xtreme
10th September 2006, 08:01 PM
I think its an alloy bar. I would back that it has had a big hit,, it is a little more than heat would do( its bent before the engine bay is burnt), and one spot light missing.
And just another question, Why is everything unloaded at the front of the car, presumeably it was all in the back,, very strange me thinks:wasntme:
If the gear was actually from the burnt vehicle, why would you carry it all around to the front of the vehicle - I think, in the heat of the moment (no pun intended!) it would simply be tossed straight out from the back.
It's obvious that the blue water cooler didn't do much good.
I've also heard that a spray bottle of water or even a vigorously shaken bottle of champers or softdrink works quite well if you get to the hot spot early enough.
Roger
JDNSW
10th September 2006, 08:12 PM
If the gear was actually from the burnt vehicle, why would you carry it all around to the front of the vehicle -(snip)
Roger
I think it is actually fairly obvious - look which way the wind is blowing!
John
Jamo
10th September 2006, 09:19 PM
I've also heard that a spray bottle of water or even a vigorously shaken bottle of champers or softdrink works quite well if you get to the hot spot early enough.
Roger
I certainly wouldn't waste a good bottle of Bollinger on a Toyota!
Xtreme
10th September 2006, 10:12 PM
I certainly wouldn't waste a good bottle of Bollinger on a Toyota!
Too true
Roger
DirtyDawg
11th September 2006, 05:55 AM
"Oh what a feeling" viewing a Pratto doing a burnout......:D:D:D
Pedro_The_Swift
11th September 2006, 06:06 AM
Hi Guys
Its not only Tojos that have this problem.Im sure if you do a search on "The Calvert Expedition" I recall there were a couple of near misses with V8 Landies,cant remember wether D2 or P38,but they came close to doing a couple of desert V8 burnings(DONT TELL PEDRO)
Andrew
bloody cat converters,,,,
another reason to go to extractors:twisted:
Graeme
11th September 2006, 06:12 AM
When a hot car parks in long dry grass like that, particularly petrols with the cat converter the hot exhaust simply sets the dry grass on fire. Subarus utes are notorius (nothing wrong with subies) for this because they are much lower as some cocky parks it in a paddock in long grass and then returns to an inferno. A friend of mine works for and agronomy company in the riverina and they arent allowed to have petrol work utes for this reason, if they drive into some farmers wheat crop to do some tests the hot exhaust on petrol engines sets the crop alight. Matt
My '03 TD5 Disco has a catalytic converter - and I'd like to remove it too.
Nobody drives on my wheat crops, or if hot weather then not on stubble either.
dobbo
11th September 2006, 06:22 AM
I also heard of an incident where two kids caught a feral cat, covered it in petrol and lit it, where did it run to? Straight into dads largest wheat crop next to the house of course, they lost the lot, the kid isnt getting pocket money until he retires.
Kharma will get them, and they deserve it. I am not a Cat person but thats just plain cruel and desgusting. I hope the little ****s burn in hell for it.
Martin
11th September 2006, 11:59 AM
A can of beer makes a really good fire extinguisher if you get to the flames soon enough. Big shake, half pull the ring, point and away you go.
On my trips I make sure I carry enough cans of beer to put out 36 fires.
Quiggers
11th September 2006, 02:05 PM
Things that make you go boom!
Martin wins, but would you use the beer on a prado?
I notice that just when the big toyos are becoming less common in Syd, theres so many more of them around here, driven by mums, who'd never go off road.
GQ
Bigbjorn
11th September 2006, 03:54 PM
I certainly wouldn't waste a good bottle of Bollinger on a Toyota!
One could drink the Bollie and then extinguish the fire with recycled Bollie.
Bushie
11th September 2006, 05:45 PM
Friend of mine had a fire under his Rangie during one of his Simpson trips in the early 80s, luckily he was able to extinguish it and only real damage was to the vacuum line to the diff lock.
I used to carry a length of 1/4" stainless rod with a hook to drag grass etc out from underneath, the biggest catch area was apparently above the gearbox cross member.
Martyn
DiscoTDI
11th September 2006, 07:13 PM
I've looked at it and I can't see that it has had a good hit. I think that's the shape of the Prado bar - made to match the ugliness of the car.
Ron
4th pic down, hidden slightly by the grass:p
Captain_Rightfoot
17th September 2006, 07:46 AM
My mate always carries those little spray bottles... must take one before next year.
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