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Frenchie
12th September 2006, 09:38 AM
Our SES unit recently acquired two brand new Troopies. With less than 1000km on one of them its clutch has just crapped itself. :D

p38arover
12th September 2006, 09:49 AM
Pfft! Do you think I believe that? :eek:

Post that on the Overlander forum and see if anyone else does. :)

Ron

101RRS
12th September 2006, 10:41 AM
I wouldn't get too cocky - my brand new disco crapped its clutch at 600km, again at 1500 and again at about 4000 - the vibration it caused resulted in a gearbox being rebuilt at 20,000. Fixed with a machined bell housing - at the time they were not available new through parts (my car was the first shipment with R380 gearboxes so parts had not been were not in stock) and the new car was going to have to be off the road for 6 weeks waiting for a new bell housing to be shipped from the UK.

The bell housing had not been cast correctly and everything was out of alignment causing the clutch not to sit flat on the flywheel - all the vibration caused the input shaft to the gearbox to shake wrecking the bearings - luckily the gearbox problem was identified and rebuilt before catastrophic failure.

So Landys do this sort of this too so I wouldn't poke the stick at the toyo people too much.

Gazzz

JamesH
12th September 2006, 10:46 AM
I wouldn't get too cocky - my brand new disco crapped its clutch at 600km, again at 1500 and again at about 4000 - the vibration it caused resulted in a gearbox being rebuilt at 20,000. Fixed with a machined bell housing - at the time they were not available new through parts (my car was the first shipment with R380 gearboxes so parts had not been were not in stock) and the new car was going to have to be off the road for 6 weeks waiting for a new bell housing to be shipped from the UK.

The bell housing had not been cast correctly and everything was out of alignment causing the clutch not to sit flat on the flywheel - all the vibration caused the input shaft to the gearbox to shake wrecking the bearings - luckily the gearbox problem was identified and rebuilt before catastrophic failure.

So Landys do this sort of this too so I wouldn't poke the stick at the toyo people too much.

Gazzz

Party pooper.:)

Ace
12th September 2006, 06:00 PM
I wouldn't get too cocky - my brand new disco crapped its clutch at 600km, again at 1500 and again at about 4000 - the vibration it caused resulted in a gearbox being rebuilt at 20,000. Fixed with a machined bell housing - at the time they were not available new through parts (my car was the first shipment with R380 gearboxes so parts had not been were not in stock) and the new car was going to have to be off the road for 6 weeks waiting for a new bell housing to be shipped from the UK.

The bell housing had not been cast correctly and everything was out of alignment causing the clutch not to sit flat on the flywheel - all the vibration caused the input shaft to the gearbox to shake wrecking the bearings - luckily the gearbox problem was identified and rebuilt before catastrophic failure.

So Landys do this sort of this too so I wouldn't poke the stick at the toyo people too much.

Gazzz

Why not they did it first. :p Just goes to show though, toyo have thier own warranty probs, no such thing as perfection in car manufacturing. Matt

Redback
12th September 2006, 06:06 PM
I wouldn't get too cocky - my brand new disco crapped its clutch at 600km, again at 1500 and again at about 4000 - the vibration it caused resulted in a gearbox being rebuilt at 20,000. Fixed with a machined bell housing - at the time they were not available new through parts (my car was the first shipment with R380 gearboxes so parts had not been were not in stock) and the new car was going to have to be off the road for 6 weeks waiting for a new bell housing to be shipped from the UK.

The bell housing had not been cast correctly and everything was out of alignment causing the clutch not to sit flat on the flywheel - all the vibration caused the input shaft to the gearbox to shake wrecking the bearings - luckily the gearbox problem was identified and rebuilt before catastrophic failure.

So Landys do this sort of this too so I wouldn't poke the stick at the toyo people too much.

Gazzz

Your just cranky cause you own a Freelander:p :p :p :wasntme:

Pedro_The_Swift
12th September 2006, 06:31 PM
maybe he wants one of these--
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Bigbjorn
12th September 2006, 07:28 PM
maybe he wants one of these--
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

If he stands up to pee, he wants a County-Isuzu.

101RRS
12th September 2006, 07:29 PM
Your just cranky cause you own a Freelander:p :p :p :wasntme:

Consider yourself as having been told :p- I was cranky at the time cause I had a new car that about 3 days having taken delivery it was back in the dealers and then again and again until they sussed what was causing the problem. The gearbox actually got done twice cause when I went I wet to pick it up after the gearbox rebuild, there was big pool of ATF under it - they had squashed an oil seal when the box was being put back together - result the box was bak out again and diaasemblesd to fix the seal.

When all was fixed the car ran great from 94 until I sold it this year - regret selling now, if the lpg bonus was in then I wouldn't have sold it.

The Freelander is a great car for what it was designed for - a great town car but it is limited in its offroad options - but I am sure I could have got over your rocks at Appin if you were towing me:) - not!!

Gazzz

dobbo
12th September 2006, 07:42 PM
SNIP...
The Freelander is a great car for what it was designed for - a great town car but it is limited in its offroad options - but I am sure I could have got over your rocks at Appin if you were towing me:) - not!!

Gazzz

So you bringing the FreeLander up to Rope Rd then?

If a Rocky can do it (with damage inflicted) then surely a FreeLander can?

101RRS
12th September 2006, 08:42 PM
So you bringing the FreeLander up to Rope Rd then?

If a Rocky can do it (with damage inflicted) then surely a FreeLander can?

Yeah rite - I get caught up on the kerbs in the Red Rooster car park - but at least mine does get off road from time to time - with care.

Gazz

Pedro_The_Swift
12th September 2006, 08:45 PM
maybe he wants one of these--
http://www.landroverforums.com/upfiles/1154/15E03432BC254A90B84FEBD5E83648BF.jpg

just so Im sure--

this is the 2007 Freelander--- right?

edddo
12th September 2006, 08:51 PM
comeon stick to the tojo issues-we've all heard enough landy ones:wasntme: :angel:

Bigbjorn
12th September 2006, 09:03 PM
I wouldn't get too cocky - my brand new disco crapped its clutch at 600km, again at 1500 and again at about 4000 - the vibration it caused resulted in a gearbox being rebuilt at 20,000. Fixed with a machined bell housing - at the time they were not available new through parts (my car was the first shipment with R380 gearboxes so parts had not been were not in stock) and the new car was going to have to be off the road for 6 weeks waiting for a new bell housing to be shipped from the UK.

The bell housing had not been cast correctly and everything was out of alignment causing the clutch not to sit flat on the flywheel - all the vibration caused the input shaft to the gearbox to shake wrecking the bearings - luckily the gearbox problem was identified and rebuilt before catastrophic failure.

So Landys do this sort of this too so I wouldn't poke the stick at the toyo people too much.

Gazzz

In the 1970's I spent a little while managing a fleet of rep's cars, light commercials, and 4WD's. The Land Cruisers would spit their clutches when used as I expected they should & would be. We tried the apparent solution of a stronger after-market clutch. Ha! They then spat the rear diff. My workshop foreman and I then had a good look at the powertrain and came to the conclusion that the clutch was the fusible link. Cheaper to repair under warranty than redesigning and producing a better diff. For a long time I had a very jaundiced opinion of Toyota product & particularly their warranty policies. Never admit a problem and never accept responsibility was Toyota's polcy. Definitely never pay out unless they could delay and back a dealer into a corner with the client. "Ahh, Soo". Toyotasan must not lose face". Then I had dealings with Ford since when I have regarded Ford as the mafia of the motor industry.

Quiggers
12th September 2006, 09:05 PM
Rockys....., hardly ever see one these days. I got one to fly in an ad for the dear rocky about 1992 i think, even got an award for the tv commercial! Howzat? Later, Fernando at Daihatsu said it had a major failure of the sub frame (broke in half) but i reckon some 'motor journos' flogged it rotten before we got for the commercial (couldn't even see the motor for all the mud). every time it landed off a 3 foot high jump, a cloud of dry mud fell from god knows where.....GQ