Questions for Vandermorph

[Vandermorph]

What is the mechanism in a AWD that stops the front or back wheel spinning faster than the other? How does it Work?

[walker]

That would be a centre diff lock. Normally the centre diff allows the front wheels to spin at a different rate the the back the same way you acle diff do.

No idea how it wrks exactly but the gears are locked together.:D

[dobbo]

CDL and/or Traction control on Land Rovers other manufactorers have used other methods though.

[ladas]

A normal differential is designed to alow one wheel on an axle to spin faster than the other - this is to allow cars/vehicles to turn corners without scuffing tyres.

Just think when turning a corner the inside wheel will need to turn slower than the outside wheel - it's the way a normal diff is designed.

It works due to the different ratio and cog size of the gear cogs in the diff (an over simplfied explanation) there will be others on here who will put it somewhat better that I can.

...............but I must ask - why do you want to know.

Limited slip diffs reduce the amount of difference in speed between the two wheels. a diff lock eliminated any difference and should not really be used on the roads.

[rick130]

What is the mechanism in a AWD that stops the front or back wheel spinning faster than the other? How does it Work?
various means can be used to reduce front to rear slip when a centre differential is utilised, either by mechanical, hydraulic, elctro-mechanical or electro-hydraulic trickery.

I suggest you go here (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/differential.htm) to learn how a differential works, then check out further pages to learn how some of the devices used to limit wheelspin operate. With all the petty pictures and diagrams, it will be explained far better than I can achieve.

[Vandermorph]

Because i had heard of it but forgot what it was called and then i wanted to know how it worked

[Quiggers]

Back for round two eh?

or are you just 'punkin' us again

[ladas]

Back for round two eh?

or are you just 'punkin' us again


?????????????????????????

[rangieman]

whats the scam this time:D

[dobbo]

I think he deserves the benifit of the doubt



Once he can answer two questions to confirm his dedication to Land Rovers.



1) What have Land Rovers got in common with Spitfires and Spam tins?

2) Why is a Pink Panther Pink?

Answer them questions and he shall have my forgiveness

[langy]

Would it be:
1. They were all made at Solihull at one time.
2. At a distance in the desert the pink colour blends in with the landscape.

[dobbo]

Would it be:
1. They were all made at Solihull at one time.
2. At a distance in the desert the pink colour blends in with the landscape.
1: NO
2: this is part of the very detailed answer, but not all of it

But he has to answer them.


To prove his worth

[one_iota]

Moderator Speaking:

Give the lad a break..Ace has been on his case and the question is legitimate and the answers of a technical kind have been useful. All of us could benefit from reading the How Stuff Works link offered by Rick130.

So can we keep it to topic please (of course some related humor is encouraged even if it is miss pelt) :p

[rangieman]

well put dobbo:D

[Vandermorph]

1. Nuthin as far as im concerned i dont eat spam and insects arent my kind of thing
2.I Dunno

[dobbo]

1. Nuthin as far as im concerned i dont eat spam and insects arent my kind of thing
2.I Dunno

The boy doesn't know what a bloody Spitfire is


Tony get me a Guinness mate, I need one

[rangieman]

can i answer dobbo

[dobbo]

can i answer dobbo

Why not the boy needs an education, obviously his teachers at school are doing NAF all but posting threads

[Ruslan]

All general info here wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_wheel_drive)

Ruslan

[walker]

Ok, what is going on here??????

I thought the question at the start of this thread was a bit weird but I answered it anyway. Then I get an even weirder PM from this guy!!!

Some of you have obviously dealt with him before:mad:

[Quiggers]

okay, to answer your original question vmorph its known as an LSD


a limited slip differential

someone else can explain the inner workings or look it up on google for an exploded diagram

[dobbo]

For full story see the link below

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=30874

1) What have Land Rovers got in common with Spitfires and Spam Tins?

2) What is a Pink Panther and why is it pink?

[dobbo]

Sorry gents just realised this is in the Tech section

Vandermorph your questions are now in the General section

Sorry for the slight hijack techies

[Vandermorph]

Do you know that nanelathellyn(i dont know if thats how you spell it) is a octine raising agent ,it is found in mothballs so if it is a octane raising agent would it be safe to put in your car? Dont think im being an idiot its just something i read somewhere ,is it true?

[rangieman]

ive heard of old truckers puting moth balls in there diesels tanks for more power i dont know how true tho:cool:

[Lotz-A-Landies]

ive heard of old truckers puting moth balls in there diesels tanks for more power i dont know how true tho:cool:
As was said somewhere else :wasntme: - how big must the moth be if you can put his balls in the fuel tank and get more power? :D

Diana

[Blknight.aus]

my guesses

1. the last 2 can be recycled into the first one..
(ok seriously) all were born of necessity out of WW2 made from leftover parts of other war stock supplies

2. The pink panther is a cartoon character and is pink because someone washed the artists coloured pens with the white ones.
(Ok seriously) The pink panther is the old equivilent of the new LRPV. it was intended for desert use and the pink colour was picked for its close contrast to the desert sands.

just guessing

[scrambler]

Do you know that nanelathellyn(i dont know if thats how you spell it) is a octine raising agent ,it is found in mothballs so if it is a octane raising agent would it be safe to put in your car? Dont think im being an idiot its just something i read somewhere ,is it true?

Naphthalene?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphthalene

They don't put it in mothballs any more - read the article to find out why.

Steve

[rangieman]

my guesses

1. the last 2 can be recycled into the first one..
(ok seriously) all were born of necessity out of WW2 made from leftover parts of other war stock supplies

2. The pink panther is a cartoon character and is pink because someone washed the artists coloured pens with the white ones.
(Ok seriously) The pink panther is the old equivilent of the new LRPV. it was intended for desert use and the pink colour was picked for its close contrast to the desert sands.

just guessing
killjoy:(

[dobbo]

killjoy:(

why he's not entirely correct



Hey Rangie should we tell 'em?

[dobbo]

shall we move this to the general section like good boys?

I allready made the thread

[scrambler]

shall we move this to the general section like good boys?

I allready made the thread

I thought about that, dobbo, and probably a new thread would be a good idea but that last question was technical, if unusual, and the thread title is "i need general information" - at least, it was intended to be "information!"

Steve

[rangieman]

hey he,s pretty close tho :cool:

[langy]

Actually, the bits n pieces slant I get re Landrovers and Spam, but what's the link with the Spit?

[one_iota]

Actually, the bits n pieces slant I get re Landrovers and Spam, but what's the link with the Spit?

The story I heard was that during the war aluminium pots and pans were offered up by the population for the war effort and Spitfire manufacture. At the end of hostilities there was a shirt load available for the use of...also the green paint once used to paint aircraft was cheap.

[dobbo]

1)
Spitfires were made out of recycled metal (only stuff they could get) Rations included tins of SPAM. The empty tin cans had to be returned to get more rations, these tins where melted down and used for munitions, and aircraft parts, Spitfire aircraft parts.

And we all know what happened to the leftover and scrap Spitfire and other Aircraft parts after the war.

[scrambler]

I know what Land Rovers have in common with Spitfires - the body cladding. But what's with the Spam tins?

Steve

[scrambler]

Ok, so question was answered by the time I posted. So do you have to return an old Landie to get a new one?

[dobbo]

Mate if your that hard up I could send you a tin of SPAM:D

[scrambler]

Don't talk to me about SPAM. The ex missus loved the stuff. But that's OK - handed her back in to get a new one.

Steve

[dobbo]

Thats why I buy Spam for camping food, without the Yankie rations there would be no Land Rover and "zee vould all be drivent People Mobiles"

Eat Spam support the Marque
And save the tins to build a Spitfire

[dobbo]

Shall we let Vandermorph answer the easy question, including how they dicovered the colour worked by accident?

[one_iota]

From our second favourite site (Top Gear):

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/1069.jpg

http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/galleries/other/100_sexiestcars/18/

Note the judicious placement of oil trays...but maybe that is a Topic for the Technical Section

[dobbo]

From our second favourite site (Top Gear):

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/03/1069.jpg

http://www.topgear.com/content/timetoburn/sections/galleries/other/100_sexiestcars/18/

Note the judicious placement of oil trays...but maybe that is a Topic for the Technical Section

And before anyone suggests it isn't a Mardi Gras special

[dobbo]

A picture of a Spitfire

http://www.sailplaneimages.com/golden%20spitfire.JPG

[one_iota]

And Spam with pink cheese:

http://www.forumspile.com/Spam-With_cheese.jpg

[dobbo]

During WW2 the RAF were testing prototype Aircraft to counter the Lauftwaffe's best efforts. They had the test flight aircraft in offshore bases and painted everything including wheels up in easily visable colours (PINK) (ORANGE) etc so the brass could spot them from the ground. One of these plains crashed and vanished. Years later, it was found purely by accident. The pink colour had masked into the background so much the people who found it could only just make it out less than a coupleof hundred feet away.

When the British Defence department found this out they instantly started experimenting with the colour, the land rover seen above in this thread is the result

[dobbo]

3) When the Range Rover invented, and what were the basic guidelines and needs it had to fulfill in it's design?

What year was this?

[Phoenix]

Not really a technical topic, moved to general.

[Vandermorph]

Its mothballs it was something i read in street machine

[dobbo]

Maybe it was nolathane bushes he was talking of?

Gandalf may not like Nolathane bushes in it's fuel tank!!!!

[Vandermorph]

Would it harm the engine

[Vandermorph]

Because thety were all made in britain

[Mud_Bogger6]

Yeah he may of been

[Vandermorph]

It definately said mothballs

[Ace]

Dobbo- i dont teach Mr Morph, i teach Yr 10 Science he is in Yr 9. If he was in any of my classes he would know all this, we use Land Rovers to teach how gears work. Matt

[Vandermorph]

It needed to have landrover offroad capabilities and sedan luxury comfort and it was around 1970

[dobbo]

How come these boys don't know what a RAF Spitfire is?
Don't they teach about one the most important battles in WW2

see this thread just for Vandermorph

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=30878

[dobbo]

Who designed it, who did they design it for, what were the pre requisites for the desgin and what year did the project start?

[Ace]

I have one for him aswell.

1) Where abouts in the car was the steering wheel mounted in the land rover prototype they built before production of the series one began?

[dobbo]

4: What car is the series 1 Land rover based upon?

5: Why was the building of the series 1 such a gamble for Rover?

[Vandermorph]

it was to appeal to buyers of mercedes and jaguar mid 1960s Jk starley

[Vandermorph]

I did know what it was but i forgot because i have researched tiger moths and they were mentioned

[Phoenix]

Not these days ace, but the AAFC still does :D

I got a flight in a tiger moth a few years ago, that was awsome B)

[dobbo]

Vandermorph stop guessing and research the questions, then you'll know try googling history of land rovers, range rovers

next question:

(Should appeal to you considering your a rev head)

What is the laymens term for No2?
What is it's proper Scientific name?
When was No2 first used on a petrol engine, why and how was it discovered?

[dobbo]

The only working Spitfire in this country is in Cowra and I'm pretty sure it's a copy,


But the sound



OOOOOOOOHHHHH


wrong town had to edit it's not Cooma but Temora/Cowra

[walker]

4: What car is the series 1 Land rover based upon?

Wily Jeep

5: Why was the building of the series 1 such a gamble for Rover?

Cause Poms can't build cars

[Phoenix]

Col pay had one, and I understand that there is a 2nd flying one in the country. I know that col's was a real one, not a copy, not sure about the 2nd one.

[DiscoDave]

So are we saying napthalene can protect you from Tiger Moths but not Spitfires? (Because they only eat pink Spam).:p

[Phoenix]

I just checked the CASA register, and there are not, 1, not 2 but 7 spitfires registered in australia :eek:

2 appear to be replicas (odd serial numbers), there is a Vb in NSW, a HF MK 8 and MK XVI at temora, a Mk IX in qld and a MK XIV in qld. All registered currently!!!

All up, replicas and real, there is 15 registered with CASA!!

[dobbo]

I just checked the CASA register, and there are not, 1, not 2 but 7 spitfires registered in australia :eek:

2 appear to be replicas (odd serial numbers), there is a Vb in NSW, a HF MK 8 and MK XVI at temora, a Mk IX in qld and a MK XIV in qld. All registered currently!!!

All up, replicas and real, there is 15 registered with CASA!!

But how many fly?

I think the only regularly flying one is in either Cowra or Temora in NSW

[dobbo]

Aviation museum website

http://www.aviationmuseum.com.au/aircraft/Spitfire.cfm

[Phoenix]

No idea how many fly, that's how many are registered. I've only ever seen the one fly, at both avalon airshow, and at skyrace, that was owned by col and judy pay, no idea who owns it know, I think that it was the Vb.

[dobbo]

It's the same plane, the museum is restoring another one as well.


Now that would be a day out and there are a few tracks out that way as well.

[Vandermorph]

Whats mothballs got to do with tiger moths? This is not an intended Pun!!!:D

[dobbo]

One hates mothballs cause they are leathal to it, the other is in mothballs in a museum


http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:o16d96TRPxOmaM:http://www.zbr.co.za/moths/image/millers-tigermoth.jpg (http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.zbr.co.za/moths/image/millers-tigermoth.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.zbr.co.za/moths/millars-tiger.htm&h=196&w=300&sz=17&hl=en&start=34&tbnid=o16d96TRPxOmaM:&tbnh=76&tbnw=116&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtigermoth%26start%3D20%26ndsp%3D20%26 svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official_s%26sa%3DN)
http://images.google.com.au/images?q=tbn:-0wXqvhbri65kM:http://www.petergoodearl.co.uk/laceygreen/airfield/tigermoth.jpg

[Ace]

But how many fly?

I think the only regularly flying one is in either Cowra or Temora in NSW

Its in temora. Matt

[Vandermorph]

Do i have to answer all the questions?

[Vandermorph]

I do dont i what is the outcome of it

[dobbo]

If you want to learn about Land Rovers like you say this is a starting point

[Vandermorph]

But cant i pick it up as i go like mud_bogger6

[dobbo]

But cant i pick it up as i go like mud_bogger6


do you want to be as good or better then boggers?

[Vandermorph]

Me and mud are equals best mates in fact

[dobbo]

Me and mud are equals best mates in fact

Then do your questions and you'll catch up.

[rangieman]

If you want to learn about Land Rovers like you say this is a starting point

geez mate your like a bull terrier you grab hold of it and you wont let go:angel:
im glad im on your good side :eek:

[Vandermorph]

But the questions you are asking i would probably be able to find on the interrnet

[dobbo]

Yes and you'll learn something as well, they are voluntary but you said you wanted to learn, did you not?

[Vandermorph]

well....yeah i did say that but i learn stuff at school not by answering questions but by taking notice dont i?

[Vandermorph]

If im gunna learn from it then post more questions!!
But Mud has 111 posts i already am averaging roughly 18 posts a day Mud is averaging 2.something but like i said if it makes you happy keep posting

[dobbo]

If im gunna learn from it then post more questions!!
But Mud has 111 posts i already am averaging roughly 18 posts a day Mud is averaging 2.something but like i said if it makes you happy keep posting

Check out Ace's post count, that'll impress you but it's not the quantity of the post it's the quality of the post.

When you've answered the last few questions we'll think of more devious ones:twisted:

[Vandermorph]

What do you mean by that?

[dobbo]

Read the thread not just the latest post there are more questions

[Vandermorph]

What if i cant find answers and anyway i havent got much time left ive told my parents im looking up Tenterfield Terriers

[dobbo]

The impatience of youth, I was like this when I was a 7 yr old PAGE boy

Yes I was a PAGE boy at the age of 7

Remember Rome wasn't built in a day neither was a series 1

[Vandermorph]

how many days did it take?

[harry]

how many days did it take?

well dobbo, whats the answer?

[Vandermorph]

I dont think he does

[dobbo]

http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~lloyd/4/LandRover/ (http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/%7Elloyd/4/LandRover/)

Well Harry if you want to learn as well you could start with the link above.

However if you read the post it was not a question but a statement leading to the location of some of the real questions.

To answer the question of

How long did it take to make a series 1?

The answer varies between 4 days to 2 weeks dependant on materials, and model variant. The reason behind each panel on every car was fabricated and assembled by hand. This is why there are various differences in the amounts of rivetts holding the panels together.

[harry]

well he did push a double banger question, so he may be trying to research the answer to the one he doesn't know.
but really only one could have any chance of being answered positively.

so vandermorph, where is your home?

[Vandermorph]

I just learnt something by asking a question

[harry]

i hate it when you answer before i post a reply to the other party,
sorry dob,
err, this is still fun , isn't it?

[Vandermorph]

But im from Portland NSW

[harry]

learning is a process of questions and answers,
problem is when we don't understand that we go to school to 'learn how to learn', along the way we get taught some things that stick.

[Vandermorph]

Did you learn like that?

[harry]

ok, i'm off to look in the atlas, i know portland vic, not nsw.

[Vandermorph]

You wont find it look for it on the internet it is only a small village near lithgow which is near the Blue mountains!!

[harry]

found it, brr, looks like it is cold outside tonight,
i havn't been to that area, only once to bathurst, which was the closest accomodation we could get to visit richmond air show.

[Vandermorph]

But richmonds like up near penrith or somewhere near there isnt it?

[harry]

richmond airforce base,
er i don't know, a passenger at the time enjoying the drive, long time ago,
i wouldn't have said it was near penrith, but it is closer than bathurst!

[Vandermorph]

whats an airshow like? ive never seen one

[harry]

just aeroplanes and stuff.
you would like it.

[Vandermorph]

Yeah well in careers i learnt that to get a lisence to become an airforce pilot you need top grades in maths science and alot of other stuff

[harry]

keep studying and watch your spelling, and you could be up there one day.

[Vandermorph]

When iseen what you needed to qualify i was thinking of working in amine and then getting a good landrover

[UncleHo]

G'day Vandermorph:)
Yup ! I know where Portland is, it ain't no fun riding a Vintage Motorcycle through there late at night, on the way to Bathurst at Easter, the fumes from the cement works don't do the eyes a lot of good:eek: :(.


Here's some answers to the Landrover Questions, some of the others may also learn something as well.

The Landrover Factory at Solihull was a (WW2)"Shadow" Lancaster heavy bomber factory, after the war (World War 2) when the Rover company wanted to resume civilian production the total allocation of Steel for the company was 5.000 Tons Adv.:o for Production and Tool making, there was no limit on the amount of Aluminium that could be purchased, so as a "stop Gap" vehicle a 4x4 utility vehicle for farmers use was designed and built, the minimum of steel was used, 4 flat sheets,edge welded, and the rest made from Aliminium, including the Firewall (Bulkhead) the mechanicals came from the Pre-War car lines, including the "Free-Wheel" device, the first "80inch" vehicles were constant 4x4 ;) this was dropped for selectable 4x4, the first prototype was Centre Steer, but ALL Production vehicles were handed, RHD/LHD, the display vehicle at the 1948 Amsterdam motor show was built on a Willy's Jeep Chassis:eek: (80 inch) the front bumper of the first 500 was built as part of the Chassis;) the colour of the first vehicles was light green "RAF Cockpit Green No3" :D :)

The "Land-Rover" was originally only a "Stop-Gap" vehicle until the Steel restrictions were lifted, it became so successfull it was selling at a rate of 10-1 of the other Rover products in 1951.:D

Bung-Tiddley

Uncle Ho :)

[Vandermorph]

Thanks for that Uncle Ho how long ago did you ride through Because the cement works shut down

[Pedro_The_Swift]

damn,, I thought Portland Cement was an Aussie Icon?:mad:

[Vandermorph]

My mate Dylan James' parents bought it when it shut down its a wreck now and half of the roof is missing

[UncleHo]

G'day Vandermorph:)
Last time that I went past the cement works was on the way to Bathurst 87 :) but I had travelled down from Qld for that borrowed a bike from a friend BMW R75/5, but while I lived in NSW, I never missed a Bathurst from 1969-1982, Riots and all :eek: :nazilock: gave up riding with a group when the shooting started :o had a family then, and it wasn't worth the hassle, lets just say that I spent a lot of years at Bathurst Easter Motorcycle Races under the influence of alcohol ;) (Even saw the races a couple of times):D AND many happy hours at the O'connel Pub, (older locals will remember that) that group of gents used to drink it dry every year:eek:
Bung-Tiddley.

[Vandermorph]

i wasnt born then but ill ask my parents when it shut down

[RobHay]

Moderator Speaking:

Give the lad a break..Ace has been on his case and the question is legitimate and the answers of a technical kind have been useful. All of us could benefit from reading the How Stuff Works link offered by Rick130.

So can we keep it to topic please (of course some related humor is encouraged even if it is miss pelt) :p


Who is this Miss Pelt. Whats her 'phone number, have you any piccies we can perve......ah ....look at:angel: :wasntme:

[Mud_Bogger6]

Yeah well in careers i learnt that to get a lisence to become an airforce pilot you need top grades in maths science and alot of other stuff


Got kindaummed out when I found out we didn't have the math grades mate :o:(