PDA

View Full Version : SAS Rover on P4 of Oz today. What tyres?



JamesH
3rd October 2006, 08:06 PM
Hi All

Just drooling over the SAS Landy and I started to wonder what sort of tyres they use. Anybody know?

Reads90
3rd October 2006, 08:55 PM
Hi All

Just drooling over the SAS Landy and I started to wonder what sort of tyres they use. Anybody know?

The pinkys and the dinkys use Bar grips tyres

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

DirtyDawg
3rd October 2006, 09:45 PM
Standard green army 110's used olympics from memory, didn't take much punishment was forever changing the things..

rangieman
3rd October 2006, 09:57 PM
Standard green army 110's used olympics from memory, didn't take much punishment was forever changing the things..

olimpic steel treks :p

camel_landy
4th October 2006, 02:42 AM
Hi All

Just drooling over the SAS Landy and I started to wonder what sort of tyres they use. Anybody know?

If I told you, I'd have to shoot you.... ;)

weeds
4th October 2006, 07:41 AM
the standard tyre is the olympic steeltrek, wouldn't suprise me if the SASR run something different just to be difficult

Phoenix
4th October 2006, 08:14 AM
If you have a look at the 6x6 and 4x4 patrol vehicles they are wearing something different. Something similar to the Sime Konvoys that I have. Goodyear extra high miler or something like that.

UncleHo
4th October 2006, 08:21 AM
G'day Folks :)
The tyres on the British SAS vehicles look very much like 9.00 X 16 NATO Pattern Bar Treads similar to what is used on our Mogs and Macks. The Aggressive Pattern Tyres that are on the Aust SASR vehicles that are in the army pics look like Dunlop "Triple Traction" that were around a few years ago, they were "Conventional" type (Cross Ply) and were available in 6,8 10 ply :) they may have gone back to using them as they would be capable of handling the weights carried over harsh stoney ground,as the "Steeltreks" wern't:( they could also be drawing tyre stocks from U S- Coalition stores, somebody that is still in, may be able to shed light on the subject.

cheers.

dobbo
4th October 2006, 08:24 AM
just out of interest, the tubes on the bumper are the for flares or some other weapon

Sorry about the quick Hijack

Phoenix
4th October 2006, 08:26 AM
Got it in one, flares, smoke etc.

rar110
4th October 2006, 10:14 AM
not Steeltraks. Something different. I've seen them on a couple of aulro members 110's .

Blknight.aus
4th October 2006, 04:10 PM
The book says they use steel treks, the 12 ply ones... and having seen some of the ones they do use, if theýre steel trks then Im the pope.

The dunlop triple track is pretty close.

The 3 gang tubes on the front are smoke grenade launchers

they fire (depending on size) a 40mm, 65mm or 80mm grenade between 30 and 120m (again depending on size and angle) in a gang of 3 providing an effective screen for quick retreats.

VladTepes
4th October 2006, 05:03 PM
The pinkys and the dinkys use Bar grips tyres

http://www.bevetes.hu/files/9/316/33-1n.jpg

http://www.twenot.nl/Specials/Landrover/Landrover%20SAS%207.jpg

If I knew what a pinky and a dinky was I;d be thrilled.

Can someone enlighten me on what these models (photos) are and in what respects they differ.


And do you reckon that Qld Transport would have a problem if I chopped the roof and doors off my Defender ?:twisted:

discowhite
4th October 2006, 05:07 PM
Can someone enlighten me on what these models (photos) are and in what respects they differ
there are no models in the bottom photo! you can just make them out in the top photo LOOK FOR THE BLACK DOTS:woot: :woot:

phil

VladTepes
4th October 2006, 05:13 PM
:rolleyes:

Reads90
4th October 2006, 05:31 PM
If I knew what a pinky and a dinky was I;d be thrilled.

Can someone enlighten me on what these models (photos) are and in what respects they differ.


And do you reckon that Qld Transport would have a problem if I chopped the roof and doors off my Defender ?:twisted:

These are what the SAS call pinkys, name came from when the S2 SAS landies first came along. They were pink and called Pink Panthers which was shorterned to Pinkys. and the name has stuck for the sas boys. so the pinky is a 110 sas truck . The dinky is the 90 versions

http://www.skytoprover.com/images/oddities/panther.jpg

LandyAndy
4th October 2006, 07:05 PM
Hi Guys
They are Armstrongs???? from memory.Just had a look at the Perentie pics I took at Rally aust,the pictures arent clear enough to read the writing on the wheels.The pair of 110s had the same tyres fitted.
Just did a google couldnt find any info,except that Perelli owns Armstrong Tire Corp.
Andrew

JamesH
4th October 2006, 07:27 PM
And do you reckon that Qld Transport would have a problem if I chopped the roof and doors off my Defender ?:twisted:

I pretty much did that on the beach in Lancelin (sorry, WA Aulro-ians it is too soon to go back there) and WA Transport and my insurer took a very dim view of it.:(

Blknight.aus
4th October 2006, 08:01 PM
The picture supplied eariler in the thread does not show the standard AUS version of the vehicles, the give away being the british number plate, british cams and the british GPMG on the pintle mount

Its (the vehicle) generaly used by SF for recon/insertion/extration/supply type rolls, the tyres fitted Ive not seen in AUS but have seen them advertised in an old copy of a British LRO mag (pm me if you want me to dig it out)

Amongst all the other crud thats on it they have as standard; 24v for radio, radio, winch, extended fuel tanks, smoke grenade launchers (discussed previously but those are 4 tubers not 3) pintle mount for various MG's (passanger), axial mount for various MG's (the one in the rear), suspension upgrades, meatier engines (same blocks different guts/fruit)

and mission specific stuff can include anything you need from generators for when its in a command role (not usual) to a motorbike when its in the Long Range Recon configuration.

rick130
5th October 2006, 06:42 AM
Is the original Q referring to Oz SASR Landy's or Pommy ones ?

Phoenix
5th October 2006, 08:36 AM
Ok, this is one of our aussie ones, from REMLR, showing the tyres that I think that we are talking about. I've seen a couple of variations. I have a pid from the DOD website somewhere that shows the tyres markings. I'll look it up in a moment.

http://www.remlr.com/pics2/lrpv_afg8_med.jpg

Phoenix
5th October 2006, 08:46 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/10/182.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/10/183.jpg

Ok, here are a couple of photos croped from the high res version of a dod photo (aus) In one you can make out good year on the side of the tyre. It's the same pattern as my sime konvoys almost, and it is the same as the GT radial xtra grip. Olympic Extra Grip High Milers is also the same pattern, as is the Goodyear Custom Xtra Grip Hi miler, as pictured.

Reads90
5th October 2006, 08:47 AM
Used to have thoses tyres on a Lightweight i had. They look very much like the Firestone SATs but they have stopped making them

slipedisk
5th October 2006, 09:17 AM
The tyres on the Brit L/R in pics run the 16' version of Aust Army Mog Dunlop tyres (fasing them out to a newer tyre), our L/R use Olympic Steeltreks on standard ver 4x4, 6x6 because they do 80% road 20% off road (no split rims) the others (L/R) use split rims, so they can change tyres easy and Goodyear due to the more open tread.

JamesH
5th October 2006, 11:18 AM
Sorry for the dumb supplementary question but in the Australian a few days ago the picture was tagged courtesy of the DOD and Phoenix mentioned DOD photos. I'd be interested in looking at some SAS Landy photos, is there a site I can browse?

Phoenix
5th October 2006, 11:47 AM
http://www.defence.gov.au/index.cfm ;)

There is an image gallery, as well as the latest photos section, both have a few pictures, but you have to hunt for them ;)

vehicle gets mroe hits than land rover in their search function.

slipedisk
5th October 2006, 12:45 PM
You can have a look :eek: :eek: but then you have to forget that you ever seen them :D :D

LandyAndy
5th October 2006, 10:48 PM
Hi Phoenix
They are very close to the ones I saw in tread pattern,still willing to say they were Armstrongs,only because Ive only ever seen Armstrong tyres on farm equipment.They were definately not goodyear or olympic.
Andrew

Phoenix
6th October 2006, 08:16 AM
I had a look at your photos, that I had saved somewhere (can't remember how :eek: ), but the tread on those photos is different, they must fit a few different things.

UncleHo
6th October 2006, 08:26 AM
G'day All :)
Yep! those tyres are branded "Goodyear" and they definately look like they are "Conventionals" (Crossply) Goodyear brand is owned by Dunlop-Pacific Manufacturing which in Australia markets their tyres under the "Goodyear" label having retired the "Dunlop" and "Olympic" brands to limited use.

cewilson
6th October 2006, 08:34 PM
Ok, here are a couple of photos croped from the high res version of a dod photo (aus) In one you can make out good year on the side of the tyre. It's the same pattern as my sime konvoys almost, and it is the same as the GT radial xtra grip. Olympic Extra Grip High Milers is also the same pattern, as is the Goodyear Custom Xtra Grip Hi miler, as pictured.

Phoenix is right. The modified versions of the Australian Defence Forces 110's run the split rim with the Goodyear tyres.

The normal versions that we run with the single piece rims are with the Steeltreks.

rar110
7th October 2006, 08:51 PM
Do these goodyear tyres fit standard land rover rims? Also why have split rims. I've never had trouble getting a tyre off or on a land rover rim?

cewilson
7th October 2006, 09:17 PM
Do these goodyear tyres fit standard land rover rims? Also why have split rims. I've never had trouble getting a tyre off or on a land rover rim?


The goodyear tyres are only for the split rims as far as I'm aware. And the split rims are far easier and quicker to repair when you're on the run, that's for sure. And I'm talking out bush not at a workshop as well.

Blknight.aus
7th October 2006, 09:18 PM
yep the good years fit on a standard 16 inch rim..

a split rim makes it really easy to change the tyre instead of lifting the bead up and over the rim you remove one part of it. and the wheel just slides off...

They can be a bugger to balance, have an inherent safety risk during inflation and high speed operation but I can change a mack truck tyre faster than a rover tyre if all else is equal.

Since they dont seem to be very popular ID be happy to trade mil spec 110 rims for the splits to fit a series 2/3 ^of em if anyones got em