new muddies - for me :-)

[HangOver]

Hi All

I know this isn't exactly earth shattering news but it's pretty cool for me.

I threw my rear tyre a couple of times recently, (so much for BFGoodrich muds being any good) so I decided to get some new ones for the back end. If they turn out any good I'll replace the front ones too.

Anyhow I got two 'Nexen' muddies.
Nexen? what the hell are they.
They are cheap, that's what they are :D
I read on the net what I could find and the reports varied between OK to excellent.

The rubber seems softer than the BFGoodrich so I guess they will wear quicker but should have more grip. The tread depth seems quite deep and hopefully these ones will stay on the rims.

235/75/15 $150ea

[Blknight.aus]

Simex make a similar beast at a similar price...

Im flipping a coin between the 2 for kermits rubber...

Let me know what you think of these ones...

[Andrewpv01]

They look like some nice tyres - let us know how they perform.

I have been looking at the Simex Centipede too, but thought they must wear out very quickly for the price they are. Has anybody worn out a set of Simex Centipedes and how long did it take?

Andrew

[HangOver]

I would have gone Simex just because eveyone seems to use them, they must be good right???
I thought they would have been very expensive being a big brand name so I didn't even price them, oh well.
I priced the BFGoodrich but the tyre bloke said for the extra you pay I would be better of with the nexen, and I didn't really want Goodrich again anyway.

It seems harder to get the tyre size I wanted in muds too, so as soon as I found one that was cheapish I bought them.

I hope they work ok is sand, being muds but the sidewall is higher than the goodrich and hankook of the same size, odd eh? Anyhow I hope they well balloon out more when I air down with the higher sidewall.

[Ace]

They look like some nice tyres - let us know how they perform.

I have been looking at the Simex Centipede too, but thought they must wear out very quickly for the price they are. Has anybody worn out a set of Simex Centipedes and how long did it take?

Andrew

Discodave has the simex, i am pretty sure he is happy with them, he hasnt really had them long enough to comment i wear i wouldnt think but i have been off road with him plenty of times and they work well. Matt

[loanrangie]

235/75/15, strange trye size for a landy ?

[HangOver]

235/75/15, strange trye size for a landy ?

yes it is a bit, it's a 15" alloy rim with quite a high sidewall that brings the tyre diameter up to that of a 16" rim. So I get more grip, (i think?) when I air down. That's my theory anyway.

* When I say the same as a standard 16" rim (205 r16) I actually mean standard size plus 1" to hight and width.

[dobbo]

Discodave has the simex, i am pretty sure he is happy with them, he hasnt really had them long enough to comment i wear i wouldnt think but i have been off road with him plenty of times and they work well. Matt


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[HangOver]

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[Ralf_the_RR]

yes it is a bit, it's a 15" alloy rim with quite a high sidewall that brings the tyre diameter up to that of a 16" rim. So I get more grip, (i think?) when I air down. That's my theory anyway.

I'm a little lost here.
Just did the maths to try and work out what you are saying.

My 80 Rangie has 225/75/16 tyres, which are supposed to be the standard size (according to the tyre place I went to).

A 235/75/15 equates to 28.8 x 9.2 x 15
A 225/75/16 equates to 29.3 x 8.6 x 16

So yes, your sidewall is higher than standard, but the overall height is smaller. But it's also wider.
So airing down probably baloons the tyre a little more.
Does this give more grip? I don't know.
I suppose it opens up the can of worms - wider or taller:p

Personally I would have gone for a more common size tyre. That gives more options to tyre manufacturer/type.
31x10.5x15 is very common and the choices are endless.
That is if they fit (equates to 265/75/15 roughly).

[dobbo]

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Your difs would be marginally lower and your odometer and speedo would be showing higher readings than normal by 1.4%. You are right about 15 inch tyres bweing a whole lot cheaper than 16 inch ones but to what expense?

[Ace]

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nothing that wasnt opened up for people on the forum to come along on.

[HangOver]

I'm a little lost here.
Aren't we all :D



Personally I would have gone for a more common size tyre. That gives more options to tyre manufacturer/type.
31x10.5x15 is very common and the choices are endless.
That is if they fit (equates to 265/75/15 roughly).


As I am a bit of a stickler for staying within the law I wanted a tyre that was no more than 1” larger in diameter
1” wider in width
Vehicle no more than 2” (50mm) over standard.

I have a 2” (actual 40mm) spring lift.

So my thinking was if a got a tyre that added more than 10mm I would be over the total lift limit of 50mm.

I thought that if I went for the smaller rim I could air down to a little wider footprint.
I was never any good at the tyre size conversion thing. The placarded tyre size is 205R16.
Hopefully I went wider by 1” (235) but not higher than 1” (75) on a 15” rim.
The tyre size you suggested 31x10.5x15 I think was a few mm too high but my maths was never that good anyway.

Before I bought these tyres I did want to ask opinions and options on the forum but I think people get sick of seeing “Tyre sizes – Which One?” So together with my limited knowledge and the bloke in the tyre shop that’s what we came up with.

So do you think I could have gone to a higher tyrewall again. If so that’s a bugger!
I really thought I got the max tyre size in width and height that would not put me over the 1” extra height restriction.

[LoadedDisco]

You cant beat the traction from a set of B.F. Goodrich Mud terrain's.
Tyre wear is second to none, out last highway terrain on the highway.
Toughest tyre for off road just don't let them down too far :o .
Or you might loose a tyre Hey. :)

[HangOver]

Or you might loose a tyre Hey. :)


:D;)

[MacMan]

You cant beat the traction from a set of B.F. Goodrich Mud terrain's.
Tyre wear is second to none, out last highway terrain on the highway.
Toughest tyre for off road just don't let them down too far .
Or you might loose a tyre Hey.


I beg to differ. I was driving between Broadford and Strath Creek about a week ago and had the BFG muds on the Disco. Anyone who knows the road knows that it hits a very steep and windy bit. To my surprise I got the Disco sideways on the tar! Before I'd even registered the fact consciously I had already dialed in some correction but it surfed very much out of track for about 2 seconds of oversteer. Shay had nearly rear ended someone before on the Hume and came to a screeching halt but this was my first "too much" experience. After that let-go, I'll be replacing them with something else that DOES stick and DOES wear faster for safety reasons.

Also, a mate of mine had a set of Simex Centipede 31s on his Bundy and they were fantastic. He recently swapped them for some MTRs but only because the Simex set was half shagged and the MTRs cost very little and were near new.

[Redback]

What i don't understand with your rim and tyre choice is, why would you go down in overall diameter from standard 29" to 28.8" not alot in the sceem of things but once you air down you've lost even more clearance.

I have to agree with this;

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Originally Posted by Ralf_the_RR
Personally I would have gone for a more common size tyre. That gives more options to tyre manufacturer/type.
31x10.5x15 is very common and the choices are endless.
That is if they fit (equates to 265/75/15 roughly).



Baz.

[HangOver]

What i don't understand with your rim and tyre choice is, why would you go down in overall diameter from standard 29" to 28.8" not alot in the sceem of things but once you air down you've lost even more clearance.

I have to agree with this;

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ralf_the_RR
Personally I would have gone for a more common size tyre. That gives more options to tyre manufacturer/type.
31x10.5x15 is very common and the choices are endless.
That is if they fit (equates to 265/75/15 roughly).
Baz.

I thought that the 235/75/15 tyre size in diameter was as close to the old 205R16 tyre I could get without going over the legal 1" extra.

Is a 31x10.5x15 more than 1 inch extra in diameter than a 205R16 :confused:

[scrambler]

I thought that the 235/75/15 tyre size in diameter was as close to the old 205R16 tyre I could get without going over the legal 1" extra.

Is a 31x10.5x15 more than 1 inch extra in diameter than a 205R16 :confused:
I think where you've made a small error is not allowing for the 1" decrease in wheel diameter. 235/75R16 would have been a little larger, 235/75R15 is a little smaller - because the side wall is a percentage of the width. Probably needed either something a little wider or something a little higher profile. Or 16 inch rims :)

[HangOver]

I think where you've made a small error is not allowing for the 1" decrease in wheel diameter. 235/75R16 would have been a little larger, 235/75R15 is a little smaller - because the side wall is a percentage of the width. Probably needed either something a little wider or something a little higher profile. Or 16 inch rims :)

Oh well better luck next time.
It may take me a while to wear out these new tyres though before I can get a different size.
As I have bought two I'll have to stick with the 15" for now.
Next time I'll ask first. ;)

[boggo]

Gday all.Downundersteve,do you know the sidewall thickness of your new tyres by any chance??

[HangOver]

Gday all.Downundersteve,do you know the sidewall thickness of your new tyres by any chance??

ermmm black, rubbery and about tyre thick. :p

Sorry mate wouldn't havea clue. I won't say on the tyre would it?
Never noticed it.

[Ralf_the_RR]

OK, so standard is 205R16.

The obvious info is:
The 205 is the width in mm.
The 16 is the rim size.

Now what is the sidewall height?

From memory this is an 80 series tyre, so it's 205/80/16.
This equates to 29 x 8 x 16.

So a 31 x 10.5 x 15 is 2" taller, 2.5" wider.

A 30 x 9.5 x 15 is also a common size tyre - which nearly meets your criteria.

[DirtyDawg]

Steve, go down on the Harvey trip this month and it will tell you all you need to know about tyre height and clearences:D:D;)
On the wifes disco I have the same rims and some 31 Coopers ST's and it was capable

[HangOver]

Steve, go down on the Harvey trip this month and it will tell you all you need to know about tyre height and clearences:D:D;)
On the wifes disco I have the same rims and some 31 Coopers ST's and it was capable

I'm keeping a close eye on that thread, if I can go I will but I never like to promise.
At the moment things should be good to go but you know how things crop up at the last moment.

So I never say I will until about a week before.