Nomenclature

[JDNSW]

Looking though the posts in this forum I come to the conclusion that I must speak a different language to some others here.

I drive a Landrover, not a "Landy", although it could be referred to as a Rover.

A "rig" is something to drill holes in the ground, not a means of transport.

A "truck" is a "large, powerful motor vehicle for transporting goods" (OED), not a utility or four wheel drive - it could with some stretch of the imagination be applied to a traytop ute, certainly a 130, but could not be used for any form of station wagon. (American usage differs a little but why do we have to copy them?)

But my pet hate is the term "Sports Utility Vehicle" or "SUV". These are rarely a sports vehicle (maybe the RR Sports) and almost never a utility - in fact if it is a utility, it probably would not qualify. The term is a misleading and unwanted Americanism, particularly since it is at odds with the long established Australian term "utility". And nobody can agree as to what one is anyway.

[rangieman]

Im with you JD i hate this americanism in the way we talk and yes one of my hates is SUV

i work for holden and when the new ceo came to holden from the USA he was sprouting SUV as a term for adventra & captiva & rodeo:eek:

:wasntme: :angel:

[SneakyPete]

Yeah it can be confusing, I don't know what a Landrover is, but I drive a Land Rover!!;)

[incisor]

both my trucks are land rovers :P

dont own an suv

and a rig is what i put at the end of my fishing line sometimes...

lifes a ball....

[Dinty]

G'day All, JDNSW I tend to agree that the description of one's Land Rover has many and varied terminology, I just call mine Land Rovers, but when I first registered one way back in either 1969/70 the then NSW Main Roads Dept issued the rego papers with red letters across the top of the page the word "TRUCK", which was changed some years later to what I cannot remember. Yes I have a great dislike of the bastardisation of our English venacular, I have nothing against American people but we seem to be losing our own identity, as far as the word SUV well they can stick that where it fits (cranky old B now gets down off soap box before he falls down;) ) and waits for the barrage of critisism cheers Dennis:wasntme:
PS yes it was.

[Quiggers]

SUV should be banned, another bloody americanism we don't need.

Mine's a 4wd wagon.

GQ

[Frenchie]

I usually call mine a car. When people see it they say "that's not a car it's a TRUCK!" :cool:

[dobbo]

snip...I have nothing against American people but we seem to be losing our own identity, as far as the word SUV well they can stick that where it fits (cranky old B now gets down off soap box before he falls down;) ) and waits for the barrage of critisism cheers Dennis:wasntme:
PS yes it was.


Eventually they will change the name of the planet from Earth to America

I think the only people who don't have a problem with this are the Americans

How long will it be before there is no such thing as countries and nationalities but Americans and United States of America?

Unfortunately Australia lost it's identity a long time ago. We are global Americans, If you can think of a way of changing history and reclaiming our identity, please suggest it cause personally I'm sick of seeing teenagers talking in fake American accents, wearing American styled clothes, using Americanisms

BRING BACK THE BOGAN....(at least they were Aussies)

[crump]

well, I drive a Defender and its a truck, it has to be with that turning circle.
Its also a Rig, it has to be with that amount of oil coming out of it.
i have the standard stereo though, so at least I havent PIMPED it.:cool:

[BigJon]

BRING BACK THE BOGAN....(at least they were Aussies)

Still plenty of those around if you look in the right places!

[JDNSW]

Yeah it can be confusing, I don't know what a Landrover is, but I drive a Land Rover!!;)

If you want to be pedantic, going on the contemporary owners manuals, I drive one Land Rover and one Land-Rover. In 1948 they apparently could not decide whether it was a Land Rover or a Land-Rover, as the owners manual uses both.
John

[JDNSW]

well, I drive a Defender and its a truck, it has to be with that turning circle.
Its also a Rig, it has to be with that amount of oil coming out of it.
i have the standard stereo though, so at least I havent PIMPED it.:cool:

I don't see anything in the definition of a truck referring to a turning circle - just large and made for carrying heavy goods. And if you think the Defender has a large turning circle, try a Series 109 or even worse a 107.

I'll buy the rig bit - that's good.

John

[BMac]

"Wheeling" is the term I really can't stand :mad: its completely un-Australian! and makes no sense.

Bruce.

[Bigbjorn]

As far as I am concerned I drive a Land Rover, sometimes called a County, and in moments of electrical originated stress, a few other things. When I worked at Leyland Truck & Bus, we registered them as :- Make - Leyland: Model - Land Rover. To me a truck has dual wheels on at least one axle, and requires a higher class of licence to drive legally, what used to be "C" or "E" class licences. Under two ton carrying capacity is not a truck to me.

[Bigbjorn]

"Wheeling" is the term I really can't stand :mad: its completely un-Australian! and makes no sense.

Bruce.

Wheeling is a procedure used to shape thin metal by rolling through a wheeling machine, also known as an English Wheel.

[JDNSW]

"Wheeling" is the term I really can't stand :mad: its completely un-Australian! and makes no sense.

Bruce.

This use of the word is long standing - so long standing that SOED lists it as archaic (18th C)! And you're right, it has never (as far as I know) been used in Australia. In my experience it was used to refer to riding a bicycle in the nineteenth century and by extension to motoring, but even in England seems to have died out in Edwardian times.
John

[JDNSW]

You can't knock this John its pure Aussie.

I drive a Landy :)
I live in Brissy :)
When I swim I wear a cossie :)

But as for the rest...well, yeah, I agree :D

Probably the least offensive of the terms I mention - but while cossie is definitely Australian, and Brissy probably is, I'm afraid Landy is pure Pommie.
The only one of the three words entered in the Australian Word Map project is cossie. (see http://web.macquariedictionary.com.au/wordmap)
John

[dobbo]

You can't knock this John its pure Aussie.

I drive a Landy :)
I live in Brissy :)
When I swim I wear a cossie :)

But as for the rest...well, yeah, I agree :D



Well two out of three isn't bad;)