Tools needed for most landy repairs

[Outlaw]

Heya guys... i basically have a very bad habit with vehicles in which i drive them till they break then pay someone to fix them as i have no clues in regards to most things mechanical.

But decided it's time to change that so after some suggestions on what i need to purchase in regards to repairs/maintenance etc... i have a basic super**** toolkit but want to get some better quality bits and pieces without spending an absolute fortune for things i won't need... so after specific size spanners etc.

I know the 9/16th is what i need to remove a drive shaft... and i guess a vice would be handy for helping to remove the spline... what else???

Cheers in advance

[weeds]

hub nut spanner, around $12 i think, using a chisel and hammer is a pretty rough way of doing it

[Pavo]

The tube spanner weeds mentions above is 52mm.

ABW-70741 Ford Fan Hub Spanner to undo the fan. It's a reverse thread by the way. http://www.collinsid.com.au/ - I bought mine from here - no affiliation with them, but you can see what it is on this site.

A T55 (I think it's a T55) Torx bit for the filler plug on an R380 gearbox.

Your standard half inch ratchet will do the filler and drains on the diffs I think (they do on my Disco 1).

Pete

[edddo]

will that fan hub spanner do disco 1 and defender 300tdis?

[BigJon]

will that fan hub spanner do disco 1 and defender 300tdis?

It should do, TD5s as well, but they are right hand thread, not left hand thread.

[Blknight.aus]

my minimum tool kit is...

1x set ring/open end imperial (3/8th-15/16ths)
1x set ring open end Metric (8-24mm)
2 flat head screwdrivers
2 phillips head
1 pair of vice grips
1 pair of combination pliers
1 pair of needlenose pliers
and a socket set..

that will see you right for 90% of your normal rover maintenance..

Most other things you will be able to beg or borrow from rover nuts Like me who have everything, right down to the jet setting toll for an early zenith carby.

[George130]

With the sockets get some decent ones. I have destroyed heaps of cheap ones and its very anoying

[sumo]

Everything Dave mentioned Plus a bottle of scotch!!.

Sumo:D

[harro]

Everything Dave mentioned Plus a bottle of scotch!!.

Sumo:D
And 1/2 inch drive on that socket set (at least), you never know what you may end up using it for;).
:twobeers:

[zwitter]

Yes the fan hub spanner fits a 300TDi
Yes it is a T55 for the filler.

I bought one of the ABW spanners from Repco Auburn, Sydney and they normally have it on display. Only one in sydney according to their computer. paid about $32- Made that job a cinch but you guess the torque when putting it back.

Is the wheel hub socket (52mm?) the same as Toyota (sorry about that)?

I would also add

A 3/4 breaker bar and a 27mm 3/4" drive single hex impact socket for tboth the wheel nuts and the crank bolt.

A 10mm single hex deep socket for the glowplugs.

A small digital multimeter with a spare battery.

but i guess you have to draw the line somewhere.
james


A towel and some citrus based hand cleaner as it can be used without water!

[Blknight.aus]

breaker bar? ratchet? why?

Put the socket on and then use the vice grips to hold the socket, jam the screwdriver into the vice grips then slide the ring end of a ring/openender over the handle and step on that...


If your going to get a breaker bar, get one of the ones that is looks like just a bent steel bar with square ends, the pins give out in the others at the most inconvenient times. And a good ratchet.

I buy my socket sets as a set of sockets then buy the extentions, breakers, ratchets and speed handles seperately.

[ladas]

sticking plaster and badages should also be in the box - for when you have snagged those knuckels or seriously grazed a wrist trying to get to 'that bolt too far'

[Rovernaut]

A T55 (I think it's a T55) Torx bit for the filler plug on an R380 gearbox.


That's if someone has buggered the head on it like mine.
I got it out and then replaced it with a common plumbing stop. Now I can just use a socket:D or a shifter:D:D

[Outlaw]

Cheers guys... that seems like a great list to work with... anything else?

[Blknight.aus]

Mate it depends on just how much you want to spend and how much work you want to be able to do on the vehicle..

you could add

Lathe, milling machine, welders (mig + ARC), grinder, die grinder + bits, Drill, hones, 20t press, all the specalised tools just for your rover, impact socket set, rattle gun, air compresor, air ratchet, air chisel, full screwdriver set, oscilisocpe, panel hammers, tyre plyers + levers, balancing machine, wheel aligning machine, oil catch pans, oxy kit, propane torch, trouble lights, automotive diagnostic multimeter, 10t floor jack, jackstands, slide hammers, ramps, load bank, battery charger, lifting block, lifting frame, transmission jack, engine crane, engine stand......

im sure you get the idea,,,

Best suggestion I can give ya, Buy a decent tool kit with most of the stuff oulined in this thread (excluding this post I was being sarcastic) and then when you come up against a problem you cant fix with what youve got, ask about it, find out whats needed to fix it and how often your likely to have to fix it. If you then think its warrented go and buy what you need, else beg and borrow.

[Martin]

2 best tools that were missed are patience, and common sense.
:eek:

[Norm Mueller]

Riggers gloves - the good pig skin ones. It saves on the grazes, lessens the blood blisters, exhaust manifold burns and leaves no black muck under the fingernails and through your fingerprints. Good for handling filthy gear when you're off the bitumen too.

[DEFENDERZOOK]

if you are burning yourself working on your car....you are in too much of a hurry.....

first you sould lift the bonnet.......


THEN...............



.......by the time you have that second beer the engine should have cooled enough for to work on it without burning yourself.....

this also gives you a chance to think about the problem at hand and work out the best possible way to attack/resolve it.....



ps...on a land rover...most of the nuts and bolts are imperial sizes.....
this is good....as most of todays cars are all metric.....
this make the imperial tools a lot cheaper to buy.....
and the best place to find cheap tools is the nearest flea markets.....trash & treasure.....

[Norm Mueller]

Always in too much of a hurry. That's so I can get to the beer-n-BBQ faster!

I also ALWAYS have Permagasket, a tube of silicon, and an odd assortment of nuts, bolts, bits of vacuum hose, some wire, a metal file and a hoof file. You'd be amazed at how fast you can reshape timber or even aluminium plate with a hoof file (that's horse's hoof). It's like a massive rasp :p

[DEFENDERZOOK]

Always in too much of a hurry. That's so I can get to the beer-n-BBQ faster!

I also ALWAYS have Permagasket, a tube of silicon, and an odd assortment of nuts, bolts, bits of vacuum hose, some wire, a metal file and a hoof file. You'd be amazed at how fast you can reshape timber or even aluminium plate with a hoof file (that's horse's hoof). It's like a massive rasp :p


you got a picture of this file...?

[George130]

if you are burning yourself working on your car....you are in too much of a hurry.....

first you sould lift the bonnet.......


THEN...............



.......by the time you have that second beer the engine should have cooled enough for to work on it without burning yourself.....

this also gives you a chance to think about the problem at hand and work out the best possible way to attack/resolve it.....



ps...on a land rover...most of the nuts and bolts are imperial sizes.....
this is good....as most of todays cars are all metric.....
this make the imperial tools a lot cheaper to buy.....
and the best place to find cheap tools is the nearest flea markets.....trash & treasure.....
I have been surprised about how many of mine are metric. so far its been 70% metric and only 30% imperial!
If you have the money a 10mm ratchet spanner is great! it's a ford tool for the manifold but once you have it it makes all those pesky 10mm nuts and bolts so easy.

[Norm Mueller]

you got a picture of this file...?

I do now.

1008

[Bigbjorn]

breaker bar? ratchet? why?

Put the socket on and then use the vice grips to hold the socket, jam the screwdriver into the vice grips then slide the ring end of a ring/openender over the handle and step on that...


If your going to get a breaker bar, get one of the ones that is looks like just a bent steel bar with square ends, the pins give out in the others at the most inconvenient times. And a good ratchet.

I buy my socket sets as a set of sockets then buy the extentions, breakers, ratchets and speed handles seperately.

My God, if you broke a flex bar then you either had a cheap and nasty one or did something totally out of order. The only one i have ever broken since an apprentice in 1959 was a 1/2" drive being used to loosen the pinion flange nut on an old Volvo. I had stopped the pinion from turning by use of a chain, shackles, and a turnbuckle around a suspension arm, and was using a hydraulic jack under the flex bar in an attempt to turn the large nyloc nut. Eventually I got the thing off with a home made tool. It turned out that some clown had loctited the nut to the pinion. The torque spec. for theseis 180ft/lb so they wouild not loosen easily in any case.

MY basic hand tools those usually accumulated by a fitter-machinist and motor enthusiast over almost fifty years since apprenticed:-

AF, Metric, Whitworth ring, ring/open end, open end wrenches, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 3/4, Allen & torx, sockets and accessories, multitudes of pliers, vise grips, multigrips, punches, clamps, pullers of all kinds, quantities of files of all shapes and sizes, scrapers, hammers small & large- ball,straight, cross pein, sledge, lead, plastic, hide etc. Feeler gauges:- metric and inch, steel and brass. Torque wrenches from in/lb to 400ft/lb. Dial gauges, bore gauges, dwell meter, timing lights, multi-meters, vacuum & pressure gauges. Deburring tools. Shifters 2" to 30". And so on.

Yet I still find jobs where I have to buy or borrow a tool. Start with the basics and just keep accumulating.

I have as well, stick & mig welder, lathe, drill press & drill bits parallel and taper shank from no.80 to 1 1/8" , three bench grinders all with dedicated wheels, a diamond wheel drill sharpener, linisher, micrometers inside to 12" & outside to 6" & 150mm. And many other items. If I had a bigger shed I would have two lathes,one bigger and one smaller than my current one, a universal mill with vertical head on a motorised overarm, anvil and forge, English wheel, guillotine, folder, rollers. A bigger drill press or radial arm drill (No.4 morse taper with power feed & geared head), & a high speed sensitive drill, at least three linishers.

Hope rests with Gold Lotto.

[abaddonxi]

Is that similar to surform plane?

http://www.hartvilletool.com/shared/images/products/small/SureFrmMicroPlns.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/11/124.jpg

Which is just basically a kitchen grater with handles.

Cheers
Simon

[EchiDna]

I do now.

1008

Bastard! :D












just kidding - couldn't resist :twisted:


anyway, I must have about 10 of those files in various lengths (inherited from Grandad the ex army engineer - along with assorted tools etc collected from his days at the proving grounds)

[Blknight.aus]

Its one of those murphy things Brian. Most breaker bars have a roll pin type setup in em and for 99.9999999 percent of the time are going to be more than what you really need....

However, Murphy does not like me...

giving him that 0.0000001% chance is tempting fate... (thats why I carry both...)

Having said that me an MR. Murphy have this basic deal going on... I let him have all his little victories over me but at the end of the day... if its all turned to clay he'll give me just enough to get it home.... and he lets me have ALL those moments that have people asking "and you got through that uninjured how?"