And you thought I'd already had enough.

[p38arover]

Flamin' heck.

I just finished flushing the cooling system sealer and filled the car with coolant. I started the car and heard the sound of ignition flashover. I looked behind the engine and saw a spark a good 13mm long. So I stopped the car to give the coil pack a wipe over in case it had some over spray from the hose. As soon as I touched the spark plug lead, that tower on the coil pack fell apart. That may explain the rough running it's had over recent months.

I'm up for a new coil pack which costs about $1800

Bloody Hell!

Ron

[Frenchie]

38 pounds each from the UK Ron, says you need two?

http://www.famousfour.co.uk/new_parts/parts.php'veh=rr_p38a&sec=eng&eng=e_46_efi

[p38arover]

That's for the later model. I need:

FF003106 Coil Pack
supplied with bracket - up to WA410481 £199.00

LR part ERR6269

It's my own fault. I was talking this morning of selling it.

There's one of the later ones on eBay for US$10.

Ron

[p38arover]

185 pounds from Paddock

http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/RANGE_ROVER_P38A/Engine_Parts/Ignition_Coil_-_V8_Petrol_to_WA410481.html

I guess I'll be travelling to work by train for a while. Which reminds me, I'm on at 3pm at Katoomba so I had better shower and get ready if I'm gunna make the train.

Ron

[FenianEel]

Ron,

Have you had her since her new.
I'm just wondering, because it may be used in Jim Rose circus as a stunt car, for running over Chinese men whilst they held a black cat on a mirror under a ladder!

Hope things look up for you mate, me thinks you've had run of bad luck with it lately.

Slainte

[ak]

Ron you poor bugger you have had a bad run lately. Hope all gets better soon.

Out of interest how many klm's on it, PM me if you like.

[p38arover]

Thanks chaps. 210,000km

Ron

[ak]

I can understand your frustration 210,000 is not alot of klm's on a modern motor car.

[Scouse]

Just to show what a good guy I am & being Christmas, I'll stick by my original offer of $1000.

:) :)

[drivesafe]

Know exactly how you feel Ron.

I took this “ happy “ snap just 2 hours ago.

NOT HAPPY JAN:twisted:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/772.jpg

[cartm58]

thought how rich this guy must be not only has he own chauffer but his chauffer has his own vehicle so the Range Rover doesnt have to drive anywhere

[FenianEel]

Know exactly how you feel Ron.

I took this “ happy “ snap just 2 hours ago.

NOT HAPPY JAN:twisted:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/06/772.jpg

OK, Tim in the words of a redheaded scrubber "please explain"

What happened?

[drivesafe]

Simple, no transmission.

There’s not too much left that hasn't be replaced.

[Jamo]

Sorry to hear about both your troubles, Ron & Tim!

Tim, how many Km has the RR done?

[Scouse]

Simple, no transmission.

Transmission failure isn't as common as the front diff splines issue.
Did it fail with warning (transmission) or without (splines) ?

[drivesafe]

Hi folks, I think I should have posted my probs as a different thread.

Not meaning to highjack Ron’s thread.

I have just had a call from the dealer and at this stage, the GM transmission, which is usually very good, may have something as simple as blocked filters and the computer has done it’s job and prevented any damage occurring.

On the other hand, the whole transmission may be shot.

Just got to wait and see.

Cheers

[Grizzly_Adams]

You both have my condolences.

There are few things that make you feel worse than your pride and joy having "issues" :(

[p38arover]

Know exactly how you feel Ron.

I took this “ happy “ snap just 2 hours ago.

NOT HAPPY JAN:twisted:



Sorry to see that, Tim.

I don't have alternate transport - my daughter's car was sold yesterday. I think the P38A might be next.

Ron

[p38arover]

Just to show what a good guy I am & being Christmas, I'll stick by my original offer of $1000.

:) :)

I'm glad to see you care, Scouse! :D

Here's a suggestion - if you ever replace a coil pack for a P38A (up to WA....) if the customer doesn't want the old one, snaffle it to rebuild your own. Then yours will never fail.

Oh, did I ask if you have any old ones in the workshop ? :)

Ron

[p38arover]

I think the P38A might be next.

I wonder if I'd get more if I stripped it and sold it for parts?.

The body is still excellent as are the seats.

Ron

[51jay]

Does it have leather seats?

[p38arover]

Does it have leather seats?

Absolutely - it's an HSE

Ron

[abaddonxi]

165 pounds here: http://beamends-lrspares.co.uk/BeamEnds/Defender/Engine/V8Efi/IgnitionCoilAndLeads/index.html

Cheers
Simon

[Pedro_The_Swift]

just think back to a good day,,,:)


then rethink the sale,,,


sometimes a car is more than its dollar value.

[p38arover]

just think back to a good day,,,:)


then rethink the sale,,,


sometimes a car is more than its dollar value.

1. I can't think back that far

2. I am....

3. At times like this I swear I'll never buy another Land Rover.

I'm not game to add up what I've spent in repairs recently especially considering there's almost no labour component as I do nearly all my own work.

I envy all the Land Cruiser owners who swear they've never had to spend a cent on repairs.

Ron

[Grizzly_Adams]

I envy all the Land Cruiser owners who swear they've never had to spend a cent on repairs.


To be honest I wouldn't believe a word they said.... but hey, I'm a sceptical bastard at the best of times.

[Scouse]

Oh, did I ask if you have any old ones in the workshop ? :)

RonIf we did, do you think I'll be telling you now ? ;)
Actually, I don't think we've ever replaced one. There's not too many high km RR's that visit us (for some reason...).

Saying that, we had a regular customer in last week in his 97 RR. He's now clocked up 421000km & is thinking of trading it in at 500000km. I don't think we've done a coil on his car though.

[Ace]

If we did, do you think I'll be telling you now ? ;)
Actually, I don't think we've ever replaced one. There's not too many high km RR's that visit us (for some reason...).

Saying that, we had a regular customer in last week in his 97 RR. He's now clocked up 421000km & is thinking of trading it in at 500000km. I don't think we've done a coil on his car though.

yeah but what else has been done? Has it been reliable?

[Scouse]

yeah but what else has been done? Has it been reliable?He was a director of a major earthmoving machinery company in Parramatta & bought it off the company when he retired so it can't have been too bad.
I know it suffered the liner issue a few years ago & he had a co in Orange make & fit stepped liners to his original block.

[DiscoDave]

... we had a regular customer in last week in his 97 RR. He's now clocked up 421000km & is thinking of trading it in at 500000km.

So, judging from recent trade-ins, there should be a high milage 97 Rangie available soon for about $400???

[Scouse]

So, judging from recent trade-ins, there should be a high milage 97 Rangie available soon for about $400???Should I give you a call in a few months Dave ?

It's silver & you know how silver RRs go off road :D .
(don't have a go at me now - it's my birthday :p )

[Ace]

He was a director of a major earthmoving machinery company in Parramatta & bought it off the company when he retired so it can't have been too bad.
I know it suffered the liner issue a few years ago & he had a co in Orange make & fit stepped liners to his original block.

So they arent all bad.

If land rover knew about the slipped liners why wasnt something done?

[Scouse]

If land rover knew about the slipped liners why wasnt something done?I believe his motor suffered from a porous liner which seems more common than slipped.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

what are the symptoms of a porous line Birthday Boy?:p

[Scouse]

what are the symptoms of a porous liner Birthday Boy?:pUsually the same symptom as a weeping headgasket - a misfire that lasts for a few seconds, maybe a minute, on cold starts is the most common complaint.

[dobbo]

So they arent all bad.

If land rover knew about the slipped liners why wasnt something done?


Probably because all cars from all manufacturers nowadays are built to last the warrantee period then die, else hardly anyone would buy a new car would they?

[Ace]

Probably because all cars from all manufacturers nowadays are built to last the warrantee period then die, else hardly anyone would buy a new car would they?

Maybe some brands but not all.

[p38arover]

Gaaahhh!

I popped the sunroof today to let some heat out.

That was a mistake.

Something broke and now it won't close on one side.

By crikey, it's frustrating owning a car.

Ron

[dobbo]

Ron I presume you've Lanolined the runners on the sunroof.

[George130]

At least it's dry weather Ron.
Hope it isn't to costly.

[ak]

Ron you must have been a real bad bugger in your last life to have this much bad luck.

Hope thinks get better soon.

[landrovermick]

just quietly Ron - sell the bugger!

[hiline]

dont bother selling the crap box to some poor person:angrylock:

just burn the bloody thing :D ;)

[p38arover]

It caught fire a couple of weeks ago. My local LR mechanics asked why I put the fire out.

I had to, it was in my back yard. I doubt the insurance company would have believed I was unable to out it out. :D

Actually, it caught from sparks igniting the WD spray I'd sprayed over the ignition leads after getting water on the engine.

Ron

[Pedro_The_Swift]

do you get the feeling its trying to tell you/us something??????


as above,,
you must have been a bad boy in a previous life Ron:p

[p38arover]

Today I finally got a chance to pullout the sunroof. One of the plastic bits that is pulled/pushed by the drive cable has snapped. This bit pulls the tilting mechanism up and down.

I had a look at the parts catalogue and can't see if it is replaceable or if I have to buy a complete slide assembly.

The parts aren't listed by Karcraft nor BMI. I'll have to try Trivetts.

Ron

[p38arover]

Hey Ron, when I saw you'd posted here again I thought "oh no....whats happened now?!!"

You must be getting sick of that thing by now.
Buy a Defender :D

I've owned a County - I doubt I'd buy a 'Fender. Too inconvenient. I am considering an older 200Tdi 3-door Disco. No electronics on those, I just don't like 3-doors!

I dunno whether to buy another motorbike or the Disco.

Ron

[UncleHo]

G'day Ron:)

Gee, buy a motorBIKE:eek: when you can buy a motorCYCLE:D Like a nice BMW R100S or a R90S or RS;) Boxer Motor, Shaft Drive, brilliant tourer, and NO Electronics;)


A Gentlemans Motorcycle :D

[UncleHo]

G'day Numpty's Missus:)

Ha Ha Very Funny :D I have owned several including one with a DJP chair, I still own one, an R51/3 1955 ;)



you know the meaning of a gentleman:)

A Gentleman always says Please,
and
Never talks during the Preformance :D

[Scouse]

I am considering an older 200Tdi 3-door Disco. Is that why you were checking out the wheels on eBay ?
I was wondering about that ;) .

[p38arover]

Is that why you were checking out the wheels on eBay ?
I was wondering about that ;) .

Not really. I bought a set of ALKO trailer hubs with the LR stud pattern off the same bloke so I put in a small bid on the wheels.

Ron

[p38arover]

Gaahhh!!

Coming to work this arvo, the car stopped several times - just stopped. So I gave up and went home to get my wife's car.

It stopped several more times on the way home - the last time just as I got home.

It's like a complete loss of power for a short period of time. I noticed that just as I approached home, the tacho dropped to zero thenm came back. That indicates an alternator failure but I don't why that would stop the car.

I'd just driven about 70km, got home and got ready for work so I don't know what's happening. Dunno if it could be related to the dual battery installation I fitted yesterday.

Ron

[drivesafe]

Hi Ron, the fact that the tacho stopped could indicate a loose earth.

Did you do any work involving the the earth connection on the battery.

Usually as there are now two batteries, either one should be able to keep the RR running.

Cheers.

[p38arover]

Hi Ron, the fact that the tacho stopped could indicate a loose earth.

Did you do any work involving the the earth connection on the battery.

Usually as there are now two batteries, either one should be able to keep the RR running.

Cheers.

Yes, I removed the earth when I was doing the install, Tim. I was unable to do any checks as I was on my way to work. It was quicker to turn around and get another car. Fortunately Elisabeth is in NZ at the moment so I can use her car.

I hope you are right - I fitted a new alternator last year (and they aren't cheap).

Ron

[drivesafe]

Ron, when you get around to fixing it, give me a ring if you strike any problems.

Cheers.

[p38arover]

Ron, when you get around to fixing it, give me a ring if you strike any problems.

Thanks, Tim, will do.

I'll have a look tomorrow. I'm up at Katoomba Box tonight - it's cool and foggy, something you probably remember well. I can't see the ends of the platform.

Ron

[drivesafe]

I'm up at Katoomba Box tonight - it's cool and foggy, something you probably remember well. I can't see the ends of the platform.

Ron

The longest shift I ever had was after working an empty coal train, which we were supposed to run to Lithgow but it took so long to get to Katoomba because of snow causing point failures west of there, that we had to get relieved at Katoomba and then sat around for 4 hours before the first Sydney train got through the snow and this was in the middle of the day, not at night, but you would know all about that sort of thing.

[p38arover]

The longest shift I ever had was after working an empty coal train, which we were supposed to run to Lithgow but it took so long to get to Katoomba because of snow causing point failures west of there, that we had to get relieved at Katoomba and then sat around for 4 hours before the first Sydney train got through the snow and this was in the middle of the day, not at night, but you would know all about that sort of thing.

Bugger!

Actually, I've only had snow once up here. I looked up at about 4am and saw it was snowing. Shortly after I had to go out to give a CAN warning form to a driver and I was in shorts and short sleeves and the driver made a comment about strange mountain folk!

Heck, I did have a sleeveless jumper on.

Ron

[drivesafe]

I’ve only been lucky enough to see snow a couple of times while on the job.

I spent most of the winter of 1975, on loan to Lithgow and prayed like hell it would snow while I was there. Never saw a single snow flake.

I was working a Eveleigh and heard it was snowing out west so I finished work and hitched a ride on the central west mail to Blainey. It wasn’t snowing but everything was covered in snow. Got the retuning mail back just in time to start my next shift.

Did a barracks job to Goulburn once and came across snow in a few places between Moss vale and Goulburn.

The closest I ever came to it actually snowing was when working an up coalie from lithgow and ran through sleet from Bell the Mt Vic.

It just never happened.

Double BUGGER

[p38arover]

I think I've found the problem.

It's the fuse box - it's intermittent. I must have overstressed it. WEhen I was fitting the SC40 and changing the existing wiring to the back of the car, I unbolted the fuesbox and pulled it out of the way.

It's very touchy around the fuel pump relay RL12 which is a known problem. I'v e already repaired the fuesebox several times - and written the procedure up here: http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/electrical/fusebox.html

Maybe it's time to buy a new one! :eek: The problem is that they are over $300 if I recall correctly.

The paper parts catalogue I have lists it as AMR3375 but I note that some suppliers don't list that. They list AMR6405 which is for a later model - maybe that's also the replacement part and not so bad a design!

Ron

[Scouse]

Maybe it's time to buy a new one! :eek: The problem is that they are over $300 if I recall correctly.

The paper parts catalogue I have lists it as AMR3375 but I note that some suppliers don't list that. They list AMR6405 which is for a later model - maybe that's also the replacement part and not so bad a design!

RonSorry to hear of you new problem Ron. Let's hope it's the last for a while - there can't be many black cats left in your neighbourhood now ;) .



And AMR3375 supercedes to AMR6405.
About $290 through here if you get desperate.

[Ace]

I’ve only been lucky enough to see snow a couple of times while on the job.

I spent most of the winter of 1975, on loan to Lithgow and prayed like hell it would snow while I was there. Never saw a single snow flake.

I was working a Eveleigh and heard it was snowing out west so I finished work and hitched a ride on the central west mail to Blainey. It wasn’t snowing but everything was covered in snow. Got the retuning mail back just in time to start my next shift.

Did a barracks job to Goulburn once and came across snow in a few places between Moss vale and Goulburn.

The closest I ever came to it actually snowing was when working an up coalie from lithgow and ran through sleet from Bell the Mt Vic.

It just never happened.

Double BUGGER

We didnt get any snow in 06 but we got three weekends in a row in 05 with heavy snow, on the first big drop there were people snow skiing on Blackheath golf course.

[drivesafe]

Hi Ace, I could just never time it right while I was on the railways.

As a school kid, in 1968 or 9, my mother and a neighbour took us up to Katoomba in the train ( the only thing working ). There was snow ploughed 6 foot high in the main street and just about every store had a full sized snowman out front of their shops.

There was no power up there so as soon as you walked into a shop, someone would follow you around with a hurricane lamp ( to make sure you didn’t pinch anything ).

There had been a large derailment about a week earlier at Wentworth Falls and they were still trying to clean the mess up.

A goods train doing over 100 MPH ( the speedo stopped at 104 MPH ) had left the rails right at the platform and it’s load of Portland cement had spilled, got wet and hardened.

Nice job that cleanup would have been in the snow.

Cheers

[p38arover]

Sorry to hear of you new problem Ron. Let's hope it's the last for a while - there can't be many black cats left in your neighbourhood now ;) .

And AMR3375 supercedes to AMR6405.
About $290 through here if you get desperate.

Thanks Scott.

I'll pull it out tomorrow - I'm off to work shortly for 3-11 shift. Then I'm not back on duty until toimorrow at 11pm so I'll have time to fix it - or not.

Fortunately, I have Elisabeth's car but she's back from NZ on Tuesday morning. Once she's back she'll need it to get to work. I can catch a train.

Ron

[Ace]

Hi Ace, I could just never time it right while I was on the railways.

As a school kid, in 1968 or 9, my mother and a neighbour took us up to Katoomba in the train ( the only thing working ). There was snow ploughed 6 foot high in the main street and just about every store had a full sized snowman out front of their shops.

There was no power up there so as soon as you walked into a shop, someone would follow you around with a hurricane lamp ( to make sure you didn’t pinch anything ).

There had been a large derailment about a week earlier at Wentworth Falls and they were still trying to clean the mess up.

A goods train doing over 100 MPH ( the speedo stopped at 104 MPH ) had left the rails right at the platform and it’s load of Portland cement had spilled, got wet and hardened.

Nice job that cleanup would have been in the snow.

Cheers

I dont think it has snowed that thick here for a long time, must be the global warming. :cool:

[drivesafe]

I'll pull it out tomorrow - I'm off to work shortly for 3-11 shift. Then I'm not back on duty until toimorrow at 11pm so I'll have time to fix it - or not.

Hi Ron, sorry for drifting of subject ( you did start it ).

I just read through the article on Rangerover Net, what a mongrel job that’s going to be.

let us know what you find.

Cheers.

[Bigbjorn]

I’ve only been lucky enough to see snow a couple of times while on the job.

I spent most of the winter of 1975, on loan to Lithgow and prayed like hell it would snow while I was there. Never saw a single snow flake.

I was working a Eveleigh and heard it was snowing out west so I finished work and hitched a ride on the central west mail to Blainey. It wasn’t snowing but everything was covered in snow. Got the retuning mail back just in time to start my next shift.

Did a barracks job to Goulburn once and came across snow in a few places between Moss vale and Goulburn.

The closest I ever came to it actually snowing was when working an up coalie from lithgow and ran through sleet from Bell the Mt Vic.

It just never happened.

Double BUGGER

Around 1969 I was working in Sydney and living at Summer Hill. I mentioned to a colleague that I was giving up drinking after work as I had woken up a couple of times in the carriage sheds at the end of the line ( East Hills?) and it was bloody cold and a difficult trek back to the road for a cab tripping over tracks and through sheds, bouncing off posts. He lived at Blackheath and said I was a bloody sook. "Try going to sleep on a mountains train and waking up at Lithgow in winter" he said "and the bloody cleaners chuck you out of the train and lock it so you have to sleep on the platform and freeze your bum off waiting for the first morning train".

[p38arover]

Hi Ron, sorry for drifting of subject ( you did start it ).

That's a damn poor excuse! :D

Ron

[p38arover]

"Try going to sleep on a mountains train and waking up at Lithgow in winter" he said "and the bloody cleaners chuck you out of the train and lock it so you have to sleep on the platform and freeze your bum off waiting for the first morning train".

We see lots of them.

Springwood and Katoomba (both places where I work) have a heated waiting rooms but they are locked at night. If they weren't they'd be destroyed.

Today we've had 143mm of rain at Katoomba (up until I left at 11 pm). Some delays on Up trains owing to a tree down over the 1500V overhead wiring just west of Katoomba (I was the signaller on at Katie). I feel sorry for the pax on the Up train - they were stuck for 90 minutes. There was torrential rain so we couldn't even arrange to get them off the train and onto buses or another train parked beside it - too much danger of slip and trip injuries in the rain and dark. The train couldn't go back to Medlow Bath as there was a coalie and a wheat train behind it.

I tell you it's a bit scary when you get the message "Emergency" displayed on the train radio. You think they've just hit a car or something worse. In this case it was the driver of a Down train who saw the tree through the fog and sent out a warning to all trains. The train which was affected stopped 5 metres short of the tree.

Ron

[drivesafe]

That's a damn poor excuse! :D

Ron

It’s the only one I’ve got and I’m sticking to it :D :D :D :D

[drivesafe]

Around 1969 I was working in Sydney and living at Summer Hill. I mentioned to a colleague that I was giving up drinking after work as I had woken up a couple of times in the carriage sheds at the end of the line ( East Hills?) and it was bloody cold and a difficult trek back to the road for a cab tripping over tracks and through sheds, bouncing off posts. He lived at Blackheath and said I was a bloody sook. "Try going to sleep on a mountains train and waking up at Lithgow in winter" he said "and the bloody cleaners chuck you out of the train and lock it so you have to sleep on the platform and freeze your bum off waiting for the first morning train".

Hi Brian, this is what your mate would have struck.

This is one of many jobs I worked out of Lithgow, this one is a wheaty at the eastern end of Lithgow yard.

I took the picture while waiting for a passenger train to go through, then we were off the tackle the hill.

It’s just on dawn and that’s frost on the ground.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I was at the QLD rail museum the other day. The defining bit of trivia for me is that it takes about 5 hours of preparation before a steam train will move on any given day :o Sorry, but that astonished me :D :D

[drivesafe]

I was at the QLD rail museum the other day. The defining bit of trivia for me is that it takes about 5 hours of preparation before a steam train will move on any given day :o Sorry, but that astonished me :D :D

Yep, when I started on the railways, they still had steam and one of the jobs junior staff had was called the” Fire Lighter “ and he would go around starting the fires in engines dew to work that day.

These Fire Lighters usually started about midnight so that the engines could have steam up for the mornings roasters.

Any wonder the now use diesels. Hit the starter button, give the compressor time to fill the air reservoirs and 2 or so minutes later, your off.

Here’s a strange one for you, of all the engines I worked on, steam, diesel, and electric, the dirtiest was the 46 class ( these pictured above ), an electric engine. Go figure :confused:

[Ace]

Hi Brian, this is what your mate would have struck.

This is one of many jobs I worked out of Lithgow, this one is a wheaty at the eastern end of Lithgow yard.

I took the picture while waiting for a passenger train to go through, then we were off the tackle the hill.

It’s just on dawn and that’s frost on the ground.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

And its a light frost. :D