Used RR Vogue Prices

[DionM]

Is it just me or does there seem to be a huge price jump in prices of used RRs when you go from the last of the P38As (ignoring those asking for ridiculously high prices on them) to the first of the RR Vogues?

Eg you cannot find an RR Vogue under $50k ... yet most P38As peak around the mid to high $30k's .

[Phoenix]

Same with any new model vs the outgoing one, same jump from a D2 to D3. That said, i'd buy the current model rangie, but probably not a P38a

[Phoenix]

So you haven't entirely abandoned us just yet Dion ;)

Freelander replacement?

[DionM]

So you haven't entirely abandoned us just yet Dion ;)


You know it's a disease :D Have just been very quiet of late.


Freelander replacement?

Nope ... Jeep replacement :)

[Phoenix]

IT would be nice to se one of them off road, Drivesafe is the only person that I know who has used theirs off road. Could make overlander forum trips interesting ;)

There was a nice white one for abotu $50k down here recently, would have been very nice!!

[VladTepes]

Any 'current body shape' vehicle commands a premium price as compared with older shapes. Just the way it is.

[dungarover]

Nope ... Jeep replacement :)

Knew that would happen. Jeeps aren't a bad rig, but still not a LR :D

Anyone (well most) who have had LR's in the past will stray but 'boomerang' back to a real 4WD and realise that LR ownership is still much better than anything else. Yes, Toyotas, Nissans, etc.. may be more reliable but they are dull, boring bland-mobiles like a McDonald's hamburger. But in reality the Jap 4WD set isn't much more reliable, just not made public and kept 'hidden' so to speak. It's hard to stuff up when you copy the innovators of 4WD technology :twisted: :twisted:

Also, stop listening to those twits on the Overlander forum :mad: :mad: and feel right at home here.

Trav

[VladTepes]

Amen to that Trav !

[Aussie]

I know most ppl here dont like the P38 and I have only had mine for 2 months (touch wood)..lol but I have to say I absolutely love this vehicle. I have been out 4 times 4wd with it and it craps all over the 2 land crusiers my friends have. Its fantastic to drive both off road and onroad, I payed what I consider bugger all for it, 2000 model one owner 120K on clock. It has all the features plus things I didnt expect. I guess time will tell whether my attitude to it will change but the only thing that counts is that I enjoy driving it.

On another note I do wave to Disco driver's and u buggers never wave back..LOL

[dungarover]

P38's I have found are a bit of a 'lottery'. You either get a good one of an absolute POS :mad:

My old man's 98 4.0 Rangie has been pretty good. Dad bought it in Spt 04 with 160K on the clockfor $21K. Total spenditure on repairs have been around the $5K mark which includes the entire EAS rebuild and the HVAC unit which leaked and at around $2.5K for total fitment and replacement.

There's some shockers out there but also some real gems. The later 2000 model or 'XA' series are the better buys and that's what I would own if I decided to get a P38 Rangie

Trav

[DionM]

I went through the whole P38A thing before deciding to buy the Jeep.

Don't get me wrong, the Jeep has been excellent and I'm a very happy Jeep and LR owner (they only fight now and then :D, but the Freelander wins as it lives in the garage whilst the Jeep sulks outside ). It has proven itself offroad and onroad - completely reliable and capable. It's boxy shape also makes a perfect family hack for renovating, I've gotten furniture, cement mixer, etc in it very easily. But I digress ...

However the Jeep was only ever going to be around for about 3 yrs - can't believe 1 yr is almost up already :o - as a fill in 4WD.

I've just been casually looking around again, and with our first kid almost here and planning for our second, the Jeep will get very small in about 18mths time.

Basically looking for a luxury yet somewhat capable vehicle. So far the list is Touareg, RR Sport, Grand Cherokee and M-class (RR sport outsider in the list).

I was just wondering why the jump from the P38A, appears to be a combo of the P38A's 'history' and as others have said, current model looks.

[VladTepes]

Basically looking for a luxury yet somewhat capable vehicle. So far the list is Touareg, RR Sport, Grand Cherokee and M-class (RR sport outsider in the list).


Sorry the RR Sport does not meet these requirements.

Luxury: YES
Somewhat Capable: NO
Very very capable: YES.

If you want something that's "not quite up to par" don't buy a Land ROver.

[DionM]

Sorry the RR Sport does not meet these requirements.

Luxury: YES
Somewhat Capable: NO
Very very capable: YES.

If you want something that's "not quite up to par" don't buy a Land ROver.

Yeah ... no worries Vlad :eek:

When I said "somewhat capable" I meant I'm not after a psuedo 4WD like an X5. I want something more capable than that; something I can take to LCMP and do a few tracks ... basically at least as good if not better than my modd'd Jeep.

[wazonthehill]

The price jump is always for the "BMW" modified P38a. That is the 2000 and later model (XA). this model has Bosh electrics, and a few mods.

To easily see, when you look at the motor it has those eight arches over the motor instead of the "square box" for the distriibution of the air. Side air bags as well etc.

I have found mine fantasitc (except possibly traction control a couple of times when off road!!). I spent the extra dollars to get a post 2000 model, as these seem to have fewer (i hope) problems and some nice benifits.

Feels great and sequre on the road (confident to keep family safe) and appears to work really well off road as a standard factory made vehicle.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/01/260.jpg
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[dungarover]

The price jump is always for the "BMW" modified P38a. That is the 2000 and later model (XA). this model has Bosh electrics, and a few mods.

To easily see, when you look at the motor it has those eight arches over the motor instead of the "square box" for the distriibution of the air. Side air bags as well etc.

I have found mine fantasitc (except possibly traction control a couple of times when off road!!). I spent the extra dollars to get a post 2000 model, as these seem to have fewer (i hope) problems and some nice benifits.

Feels great and sequre on the road (confident to keep family safe) and appears to work really well off road as a standard factory made vehicle.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/01/260.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/01/261.jpg
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/01/262.jpg



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I have to agree here. In the club I know a bloke with a 2000 HSE and had it for 6 years without any massive reliability issues. Took it across the Simpson and on many club trips (although nothing I would consider challenging) and had an dodgy AFM sensor (not really sure what they have under them bloody things) in all that time.

He's also got a 2002 TD6 and had all sorts of issues. Calls it the 'computer on wheels' :D :D

Trav