P38A 14K Pepair Bill - Ripped?

[RRV80]

Its not mine before we start, glad we got that over with,

A freind of mine, she bought a P38A HSE 4.6 brand new in 97' I dont know the whole history of the vehichle, ut she has recently had the heads done and i have just found out she recently spent $14,000 in one hit @ LR for suspension. The EAS i beleive had been faulty for a while so she took iy in and they replaced the compressor, all aibags, the distributions block and pretty much every line, fitting and bolt apparently to do with the EAS system and may have even done a control module or something?

My question is this reasonable fot a major suspension issue to be repaied at LR or did she get ripped of becasue she is a women who is of the older calibre and not very car literate.

It was left by her late husband btw.

[adm333]

Sounds dodgy to me.

When something goes wrong with the EAS, its usually down to one or two components. It is unusual to have to replace every piece.

Sounds like they were just too lazy to figure out the real source of the problem.

[Outlaw]

Geez she could have got a replacement p38 for those dollars or swapped to coils for a couple k :confused:

[Scouse]

Geez she could have got a replacement p38 for those dollars 3 1/2 of them actually ;) .

The EAS is expensive to repair sometimes, esp. the compressor & valve block, but I doubt it would come to $14000 if you replaced every single part.

Someone saw her coming :mad: .

[Slunnie]

I reckon she got ripped big time.

I mean, what happed to finding out what the problem is and fixing that. Its seems typical of LR repairs, which just seems to be change a part and see if that fixes it, and if not, then change some more parts until it is fixed.

[kie4]

whoever carried out the work didnt advise or diagnose very well. its never all the componant that need to be replaced.Ripped off big time.
Also a spring conversion is possible at a fraction of the price.
rich

[Captain_Rightfoot]

It's a shame they didn't take it to MR Automotive at Redcliffe. I reckon the bill would have been a fraction of that.. but then it is a bit difficult without specifics.

[p38arover]

Ripped off.

I'd opine that they had no idea of what was wrong.

I wonder if one could complain to LR?

Ron

[dungarover]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Heart attack time!!!!

This is a sad state of affairs when people get royally ****ed by the LR dealer. This is why I have no time for EAS, too fiddly and costly. Coil springs, whilts not as sophisicated nor has the superb ride of air suspension, it's just simple, reliable and it works. Problem solved :D :D

Trav

[Blknight.aus]

ripped off, unless they included and fitted a replacement chassis to hang the stuff from, take the reciepts and ask questions at consumer affairs.

[LoadedDisco]

I would say from that price like everyone else she appears to have been over charged.
Thats why you cant beat a second opinion. Call someone to confirm.

This sort of thing is a worry and D3 owners should also look out in a few years when things need replacing from ware, as they are more electronically with fewer people around that really know how to fix them.

[dobbo]

Considering LR charged $10k to rebuild an engine in one in 2002, I think $14k is a bit overpriced but expected.

Remember we are in a throw away society, it's broken therefore LandRover make it more feasible to sell her a new one than fix the one she has.

[Bigbjorn]

I have seen these jiggers go through trade auctions for around that amount. Early last year A '96 , immaculate, 48000k's, full service history and log book, looked as if it was only used to drive from Hamilton to St. Margaret's and the pony club, $16500. The amount of electric crud under the bonnet of these things is truly frightening.

[mark2]

It seems that no matter whether its a Land Rover or a Mercedes or a Toyota, whatever, taking it to a dealer rather than a specialist is going to cost $$$$$.

I've seen this time and time again and put it down to to mechanices who dont have a clue, apprentices doing the bulk of the work unsupervised, inflated labor and parts prices in particular and a general attitude by service departments of milking customers for all they can get away with.

Unfortunately, a lot people are unaware of the specialist repairers and think that dealers are the best places to go to for diagonosis/repairs.
(There probably are some good dealers/service managers out there, you dont hear about them too often however)

[ak]

I would say from that price like everyone else she appears to have been over charged.
Thats why you cant beat a second opinion. Call someone to confirm.

This sort of thing is a worry and D3 owners should also look out in a few years when things need replacing from ware, as they are more electronically with fewer people around that really know how to fix them.

Could not agree more. This is one of the things that will most likely stop me buying a D3. I just hope for the sake of you D3 owners out there you don't have to go through the same sort of pain.

However hate to say it I think you D3 owners in years to come may be in for this sort of thing and worse.:(

[p38arover]

Could not agree more. This is one of the things that will most likely stop me buying a D3. I just hope for the sake of you D3 owners out there you don't have to go through the same sort of pain.

However hate to say it I think you D3 owners in years to come may be in for this sort of thing and worse.:(

That's why I've stuck with the P38A - it can be expensive to maintain but I own it, it's now pretty much fully depreciated.

I can do a lot of repairs for the asking price of a D3 - even a "cheap" V6 petrol one

What I don't have, however, is peace of mind.

Ron

[JohnE]

ripped off, unless they included and fitted a replacement chassis to hang the stuff from, take the reciepts and ask questions at consumer affairs.


I agree with daves commnet, get into the b****ds, I take it her receipt has every item on it that replaced, perhaps this migh tb e a good ACA story.
maybe its a case fof querying every single item as to why?
plus the original diagnosis, did it fit the recommended L/R repair?

ripped robbed, stealing, its all the same, how about shaming and naming them for everybodys benefit.
Or perhaps, speak with your friend and if you can get a the bill/recipt with all the items on it, blank out her name and scan and post for all to see.


john

[haggisbasher]

this is a very sad state of affairs....would be worth looking at any way of getting back at the dealer legally. There has to be something that can be done. Also would depend how long ago it happened.

very sad :(

[RoverOne]

That's why I've stuck with the P38A - it can be expensive to maintain but I own it, it's now pretty much fully depreciated.

I can do a lot of repairs for the asking price of a D3 - even a "cheap" V6 petrol one

What I don't have, however, is peace of mind.

Ron

I don't understand this Ron, why don't you unload if it is unreliable, doesn't make sense

[WOLLAPIT85]

Whoa.. Whoa .. Whoa.




I have spent 14 grand and more on my 85 rr.....


But mine will go further than the local Bi-Lo carpark..

























I shop at Safeway. :D


At least i do own it....just.





BTW - No story is a good ACA story..

[p38arover]

I don't understand this Ron, why don't you unload if it is unreliable, doesn't make sense

Because, at the moment, it is unsellable except at a very low price. If I can get rid of the vibration problem at low cost, I will seriously consider it.

If I had the time and space, I'd strip it and sell it for parts as it is worth more like that.

Would I buy another LR? I doubt it. I'm not into rock-hopping or possible vehicle damaging 4WDing - I'll nearly always take the chicken track if there is one. I'm more interested in camping in a less-frequented spot without crowds and a car might get me to most places I want go. A car would be cheaper, too.

Ron