Moving Defender Td5 ECU

[Mulgo]

Last week I built a box below the centre cubby box and moved all the electric stuff from under the driver's seat. Very easy to do, all cables are long enough.

Two advantages:
1. Cubby Box is now higher, more comfort to rest your arm on.
2. I can fit a standard LR fuel tank under the driver's seat.

Cheers,
Daniel

[tombraider]

Didnt happen without Pics ;)

[geckos]

Any pics? nudge, wink,

[discowhite]

Any pics? nudge, wink,


didnt happen!

cheers phil

[hiline]

where's the PICSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS:D ;)

[Mulgo]

where's the PICSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS:D ;)


Okey, will make a few pics tonight!!! :thumbsup:

[hiline]

Okey, will make a few pics tonight!!! :thumbsup:

good job :D :D :D

it will be well worth it ;)

save all these dudes hounding you for them:angel:

[Mulgo]

Here they are, if you need details let me know.

I had space for everything:

Land Rover: ECU, Fuse Box, 2 Relais, Diagnose Plug
Dual Battery System: SC40, Circuit Breaker, Relais, Switch, SolenoidCheers,
Daniel

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[crump]

so where did you run the wiring, thru the transmission tunnel or the side of the seat box??

[Mulgo]

so where did you run the wiring, thru the transmission tunnel or the side of the seat box??

Transmission tunnel - as shown in picture 1
Just made two big and one small hole in the plate underneath the cubby box. All cables are long enough for this.

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[hiline]

nice job indeed :) :)

looks straight forward enough even for someone like me .................;)

[crump]

Transmission tunnel - as shown in picture 1
Just made two big and one small hole in the plate underneath the cubby box. All cables are long enough for this.

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I wondered what the hell that pic was:o , now another blooody job to do, thanks.:D

[Bushie]

Last week I built a box below the centre cubby box and moved all the electric stuff from under the driver's seat. Very easy to do, all cables are long enough.

Two advantages:
1. Cubby Box is now higher, more comfort to rest your arm on.
2. I can fit a standard LR fuel tank under the driver's seat.

Cheers,
Daniel

Daniel,

How far off the deck is the top of the cubby box now?. Interested to know as I have to modify mine which will make it higher.


Martyn

[crump]

I need more info as I'm simple, so the holes you cut thru the tunnel have to be big enough to fit the red and black plugs???

[DEFENDERZOOK]

im really impressed with this idea.....

if you could give dimensions etc i would love to copy this idea as well.......




great job there vida........

[tombraider]

And bigger copies of the photos!

More details required!!!

Excellent work BTW.... I'm still investigating moving my ECU to the roofline.

[Mulgo]

Thanks for the compliments.

Will post the drawings and measurements asap.

Cheers,
Daniel

[George130]

Nice job. Pity mine won't be so easy with the auto conversion:(

[Mulgo]

Here are further details:

Step 1
Undo the four bolts holding the cubby box (cb) down. Take off the two timber rails on the bottom of the cb.

Step 2
Build a box similar to this one (I used plywood):

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Note: As you see in the drawing the front is shorter than the rear, this is only because I wanted to level the cb. However, if you do not want to do this and leave it at the slight backwards angle do not make the box smaller than 135mm, otherwise you won't fit everything in there.

Step 3
Take all the electronic gear out of the box under the driver's seat. Arrange all the stuff in the new box - have a play and decide for the setup which suits you the best. Don't forget, you might need to change the fuses in the future so you do want to access them easily.
Once you made your decision - mark where you want to put your stuff, then take it out again.

Step 4
Drill holes into the bottom of the new box:
- 4 at the same spot as the ones in the cb to attach the new box to the metal plate above the transmission tunnel.
- 2 with 80mm diameter to fit the red and black plugs and the rubber seals. (where? this depends on how you set it up, it's like a jigsaw)
- 2 with 35mm diameter to fit the earth and the diagnostic cable through. (where? towards the front as there is already a hole for the diagnostic cable in that metal plate)

Step 5
Paint the new box. Have a rest ... kill that well earned thirst.

Step 6
Put the new box in place and mark the centre of each hole (except the one for the diagnostic cable as it already exists in the metal plate) onto the metal plate above the transmission tunnel.

Step 7
Drill the necessary holes into the metal plate - but smaller than the ones in the new box:
- 2 with 60mm diameter for the plugs and the rubber seals
- 1 with 32mm diameter for the earth

Step 8
Attach the new box to the cb with a piano hinge so that you can open it. Also attach a strap at the cb and the new box so that it does not open all the way. Put a latch on the outside to close it firmly.

Step 9
Put all your cables through the metal plate and put the rubber seals in place.

Step 10
Have a dry run, put all the gear in the box. Work out what brackets you need to bolt the ECU and the fuse box onto the new box. Then fit everything.

That's it!

I made the Photos above a bit bigger.

Any questions... I am always happy to help.

Cheers,
Daniel

[crump]

Excellent info, thanks.

[Martin]

Wow - great job, and very easy to follow instructions - thanks for this. I have also been thinking about placement of an auxhilary tank, and this is an interesting idea. Where would you place the filler for it, and could it drain into the main fuel tank by gravity, meaning there is no need for a pump?

[Mulgo]

Filler:
If you take an original LR tank then the filler is just under the driver's seat. However I think of modifying the original tank or build a new one with the filler at the rear of the tank. Then modify the standard filler at the back of the vehicle so that I can move the nozzle to fill either the standard or the Aux tank (hate to say this but some Toyo's have that).
This means however, that the diesel inlet for the tank under the driver's seat will be lower than the top of the tank - have to investigate if it would still fill to the top. Think it should - with a decent size breathing pipe. Has anybody input on that?

Pump:
Yes, you would still need a pump. If you have an aux tank in a Td5 you normally pump the diesel into the breathing pipe which goes from the original tank to the filler pipe. As this breathing pipe is higher than the bottom of the Aux tank you would need some sort of a pump system.
However, this does not need to be a pump. In my previous Td5 I attached the breather pipes of the Aux tanks to my air compressor and within a minute or two 60 liters were pumped from the front to the back.

[numpty]

Daniel,

How far off the deck is the top of the cubby box now?. Interested to know as I have to modify mine which will make it higher.


Martyn

Finally going to fit the radio are we Mar Tyn.;)

[Cameron_Def]

Will this higher ECU postion reduce / remove the oil issue ?

[tombraider]

Will this higher ECU postion reduce / remove the oil issue ?

Nope still below head height

[geckos]

Something for the spare room....................... three tanks for a td5????
TR55 (127L), TA55 (35L), and TA45 (70L), that 232L. Thats roughly 2250 km around town....... WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.thelongranger.com.au/defenderlongrangefueltank.html


Thats a good idea with the ECU, next project for eccles..

Cheers Geck.