Mud Tyres on Soft (WA) Beach Sand

[isuzurover]

Who uses mud/agressive tyres on the beach and what don you think of them? Thinking of getting Maxxis Bighorn - but now I live in WA will probably do a bit more sand driving.

[Jamo]

I use STT's on sand. (245/70R17). Down to 16psi and it's like driving on bitumen!

[tombraider]

Claws work awesome...

Simex too...

Just get your foot off the go pedal if you get stuck!

[dungarover]

Claws work awesome...

Simex too...

Just get your foot off the go pedal if you get stuck!

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Good way to dig yourself a big bloody hole in the sand. Something I would probably do just for being a goose :oops2:

Trav

[Rayngie]

I use BFG Muddies at 18psi and have never had a problem,

[Quiggers]

Why my Disco came with skinny (205/16) Bridgestone Desert Duelers M+S (Mud and Snow) in a beach run paradise is beyond me.....

but, they do the job in sand and IF!!! I get stuck I just drop em to 18 psi and not a prob! Never had to be recovered or have even used traction mats..... thus far.... touch some wood now Gra.......

I reckon I could use these in the sand hills of the Sahara on the Dakar run, they do the job.....

GQ

[lokka]

Gday

Ive used a few different types of tyer on the sand at stockton and have found that a 235 85 16 BFG all terain at 16 psi works better than a 33x12.5x15 buckshot maxxis mudder at 10 psi and have had 275x70x16 at 12 psi they were on par to the maxxis maby a little better ...

Have found that a skinny tyer will work better than a wider tyer on sand as with the skinny tyer theres not as much sand to push with a smaller surface area than a wider tyer ...

The BFG's at 16 psi would get up ontop of the sand easier than the buckshots and they float a bit better i think

cheers

chris

[LandyAndy]

Hi Ben
My CooperS/Ts arent exactly aggresive,havent bitten me or any kids yet:D :D :D :D .I airdown and they are fine,biggest problem with the aggresive tyres on beaches they will dig in if you allow it.Air down, momentum up over the softer stuff no probs.
Andrew

[HSVRangie]

Muds work fine. far better than at or hwy tread.

Michael.

[seriesly]

Claws work awesome...

Simex too...

Just get your foot off the go pedal if you get stuck!

now you tell me!!!!

[Slunnie]

Muds are fine also. I've run HT's muds, MTR's and Simex and they were all fine. HT's were the worst though.

[Tusker]

Sand driving near Perth is different from Stockton or Fraser. Grain size is different, we found it much easier in WA.

The tye thing has come up numerous times before. I think its more to do with tyre size and contact patch size, that it does tread pattern.

35" Simex ETs were the best I've run, until recently. They mastered everything at Stockton, althgough windows needed to be up - there were always 4 roostertails.

Now I've got 35" ProComp AllTerrains, and these are a clear step up from the ETs. Much better on Stockton at the same pressures. And no roostertails.

Regards
Max P

[dobbo]

If you look at sandrails They usually have fat slick like tyres very similar to wet weather racing tyres, the balding BFG muddies I have as fun tyres have worked great up on Stockton (when at the right pressure about 14psi) but as Tusker stated it's a different type of sand. Have to get back over there one day.

[lokka]

Sand driving near Perth is different from Stockton or Fraser. Grain size is different, we found it much easier in WA.

The tye thing has come up numerous times before. I think its more to do with tyre size and contact patch size, that it does tread pattern.

35" Simex ETs were the best I've run, until recently. They mastered everything at Stockton, althgough windows needed to be up - there were always 4 roostertails.

Now I've got 35" ProComp AllTerrains, and these are a clear step up from the ETs. Much better on Stockton at the same pressures. And no roostertails.

Regards
Max P


Gday max

As you said about grain size here at stockton theres a few different spots on the beach with different sand from fine white powder to grain sand like river gravel and the are all different to drive on the harder being the coarse grain stuff at the southern end of the beach were your not allowed to drive the fine powder can be tricky to sumtimes but it compresses well not like the coarse stuff ive pulled a few lesser 4x4's out now down this end of the beach and none of them had their tyers down ...

Cheers

Chris

[cartm58]

speaking of WA beaches west coast 4x4 is having a beach outing on 11th february

[Bigbjorn]

Are Goodyear Custom Hi Milers still available? Thirty years ago these were the tyre of choice by Qld sand drivers. Quite a few local residents of Stradbroke and Moreton Islands used huge circumferentially ribbed aircraft tyres on wide rims. These people drove in sand most of the time, and these surplus bomber tyres could be let down to virtually zero pressure, they were so strong.

[Ruslan]

BFG Muddies 265/75 at 10psi work better than BFG AT. Don't know about WA sand, but SA beach and forest sand all year around.

Cheers,
Ruslan

[isuzurover]

Sand driving near Perth is different from Stockton or Fraser. Grain size is different, we found it much easier in WA.


Really? I have driven on Moreton (a few times) and Fraser, and I found the WA sand much worse.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I have a mate with a 300tdi that runs straight road tyres,, always airs down




but never uses the CDL ,,,,,,


his sons all run surfs with huge tyres and keep getting stuck,, but
"thats what the 'Ole mans for",,
so they tell me-- :D

[ak]

Really? I have driven on Moreton (a few times) and Fraser, and I found the WA sand much worse.

I found Fraser easy compared to Stockton. From what I have seen and heard some days at Stockton if hot and no rain for a while, you can let your tyres down to 12 and still get into trouble. Sand at Stockton in places is almost as soft as powder. Although it's been a couple of years since I've been to Stockton.

Cal what was Fraser sand like compared to Stockton?

[Jamo]

I don't know about the east. Our sand here on the south coast of WA is exceptionally fine. Sometimes it even squeaks when you walk on it.

It can get very very soft. There are parts of some of the beaches where, no matter what conditons have been (ie tides, rain etc), you don't stop or slow below certain speeds if you want to get through.

I'm with quiggers, skinnier tyres are better than fat ones. And like slunnie, I've found HT tyres the worst.

MT are the best, except (like someone said above) when you start to get bogged. If you try to power out they can have a tendency to dig in.

But for me it's STT's at no more than 16psi around here. And if it gets really soft, low range and drop them even further if necessary. I've been down to 10psi on occasion.

[lokka]

Sounds like theres plenty of different opinions on this subject and rightly so as sand can be so unpredictable ..

At the moment stockton is fairly dry and theres some places were the sand is that soft its hard to walk through and you need to be on tha ball otherwise is out with the shovel ..

I have an old set of BFG at's that are fairly bald and when down at 14/16 psi work great on the powder but perform verry well on the hard stuf to as for the muddies ive found with the big buckshots they have to be down to at least 10 or 8 psi to realy perform ..

On the newyears trip out tha beach we had a play with pauls ute with the maxis creepy crawlers and we ended up with them at 7psi and they were only just starting to belly out and they workd great tho the ute is a fairly lite truck and dosent belly tyers well ..

I think any tyer will do ok on the sand as long as its aired down properly to suit the conditions its a suck it n see sort of test take a compresser and have a play with tyer pressures start at 16 psi then see how far the tyer belleys and how it drives and if its having troubles go down sum more as it will all depend on the size of ya tyer ....

Cheers

Chris