Warn 9.5xp..cant pull..

[AT]

hi all... again

have a friend using a warns 9.5XP this is what happens

winch is able to reel and letout and even pull a defender on a straightaway. but once extra load is added as in stuck in a mud.. even a mild one.. the winch cease completely.

have changed the cables and the 2 batteries and it still doesnt work.. any ideas?

sent an email to warns but havent gotten any reply as yet.. anybody got the same problem? We do not have any dealer close by or service center. most prob have to self fix..

anybody had or came across this problem on a winch before? :)

[Phoenix]

sounds like it can't draw enough current maybe

[Tusker]

What vehicle is it in? A defender?

How much wire was on the drum? Did you test it near the bottom layer?

Clean all the earths. Upgrade the cabling to welding stuff, particularly if a Defender. Theres a long path back to the battery, not so bad in other cars with batteries under the bonnet. Rewire so that there's a lead back to the battery, if a Defender, don't rely on the chassis earth principle.

Is there a solenoid or smart charger between the batteries? If the latter, it'll only be 20 amps or so, you're probably running down one battery alone. Get something about 200 amps.

You should be able to work out what's not coping by carefully testing what's hot - winch motor? cables? Double line it & load it up - but don't stall the winch.

And don't expect it to recover on just a single line pull - a lot of recoveries need a double line.

I was disappointed with my hi-mount after moving it from disco to defender. Chucking the Warn cabling & upgrading made a big difference.

Regards
Max P

[UncleHo]

G'day AT :)

Cabling to winch is too light or the load is too heavy:)

[walker]

Yep, agree with the others. Make sure the earth cable goes directly from the winch to the battery....not to the chassis.

[natanchris]

Make sure there is a separate earth cable from the winch body back to the battery. Had the same prob with my Warn 8000kg; I'd taken it from another car and it didn't have one on the donor vehicle. Works great now!

[blitz]

I agree with the comments above, I have one and most of the time it works fine. Only on a couple of occasions have I had to use a pulley block to double the pulling strength both times was in serious mud that I had trouble even pulling the cable out in.

cheers Blythe

[AT]

thanks for all the input.. i think its not the load.. we were pulling a vitara(small one) and it cant work.. will try out the earthing suggestion..

Its on a defender..

the cables seems fine.. not nested or anything like that..

i heard from another dude its might be something to do with the brushing.. not sure whats that though.. any ideas.

will try the electrical cabling first.

thanks again

[Reads90]

It may have twin batteries but check they are ok . Sounds to me that they may be on their last legs. Means nothing if you have two nackered batteries. The winch draws huge amounts of power when it starts to work.
So my on would be check the power levals and charging of the batties and the cabling of the winch.
In my past , i have found that the winch will work or not , and not in between. Problems are normally it will not do anything , or will work but no real power .This problem is always down to the amount of juice it is getting

[Wortho]

Silly question mayby but do you have the engine running, a winch will suck your batterys dry pretty quick without the engine running.

[Dave110]

Had a similar problem with my 9.5 cable would feed out, would pull in wouldn't pull under load. checked out every thing battery, earth, cables solenoids etc every thing fine, went to pull the motor off, undone the earth bolt on the motor and nearly got drowned, motor was full - well half full of water. the winch had only used 4 times in anger and had never been submerged and 6 months out of warranty.

Talked to ARB, the guy I spoke to said this has been a problem with the xp. The problem was when fitting to a bull bar the way we mount the winch on its side, (the yanks tend to mount winches on top of bumper bars) the motor needs a 1/4 turn to put the weep hole to the bottom so any water can drain out. I asked to speak to the warranty people argued the point of none of this was mentioned in fitting instructions supplied if fitting DIY. Any way sent the winch back to ARB and a new motor was fitted under warranty and as a POI the new motor still hadn't been given the 1/4 turn did it myself not a problem since that was over a year ago and used the winch the other day to move a concrete stock trough

the Landie lives outsige in the elements and the water ingress was from the rain (what is that again, I seem to remember that used to happen in my youth!) and capillary action draws it into the motor

[AT]

once again .. thanks for the input... did the earthing cables..

the batteries was changed and yes... the engined is running :)

took out the control modules and redid the wiring.. found a little corrosion...tap tap it and put it back. gonna go test it out.. found a nice little mud hole... :) if it doesnt work most prob will have to take out the motor and check it out..

*crossing fingers and toes :angel:

[AT]

dave110>> gonna check out the motor....if it still doesnt work... btw i have a similar dent like the one in your avatar :) im keeping it that way as souvenir. :D

[AT]

My buddy would like to say a thank you all... :)

Its working again.. well, we did almost everything listed and its back agin.. dont really know what did the trick :)

Thanks alot for the suggestions and info..