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Handbrake hates Camping
13th February 2007, 11:57 PM
I'm sure everyone with a D2 has had a problem with the rubbers on the keys by now. If not, I'm sure you will.

Got an interesting question about utilising key fobs from O/S namely the USA.

As I have a '99 D2 my frequency is 315mhz which is the same as the US, but the key fobs have 2 different part numbers. Aus has CWE 100700KIT and the US has CWE 100710KIT. As I said both being 315mhz in frequency. I rang MR Automotive in Brissy and they followed it up and the feedback said the US one wouldn't work because it is designed for a Left Hand drive vehicle. Now this does not make any sense at all to me, there is a massive price difference between an Australian one at $300 approx plus coding and $103.35 plus $25 shipping for the US one.

Has anyone attempted this before, am I just not seeing something plain and obvious, because I don't know how they would differ, if they only lock, unlock etc...

Anyone help on this one?????

Doc

p38arover
14th February 2007, 12:17 AM
I'm sure everyone with a D2 has had a problem with the rubbers on the keys by now. If not, I'm sure you will.

Are the rubber bits available as a spare part? The ones for P38A Rangies are and only cost a few dollars from LR - part no. YWC000300.

Here's a couple of pics I took earlier:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/02/195.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/02/196.jpg

Ron

Handbrake hates Camping
14th February 2007, 12:26 AM
Apparently not. (I stand too be corrected by anybody on this... please correct me...) I believe it is a complete replacement.

Doc

p38arover
14th February 2007, 01:22 AM
Hmm, D1 key fobs, yes: http://www.remotekey.co.uk/key%2Dfob%2Dreconditioning/

or

http://www.dakar.co.uk/en-gb/dept_9.html

Ron

Pedro_The_Swift
14th February 2007, 07:16 AM
first I've read about trouble with the buttons--


I thought they were hard plastic buttons,,
*me picks mine up

hmm,,

so what goes wrong?

harlie
14th February 2007, 08:31 AM
Just had this exact problem with my D2 - the rubber on the button splits and simply falls out – no button (it worked with duct tape for a while). And it is a complete replacement.
Down to SS LR $420 for replacement key. I says “oh well”.
Car comes back with new key working and 2nd original key NOT working – back to the dealer AGAIN – wish I thought about MR – none of the locksmiths could help me, since found out they need to program the car to accept the key.

Gavin
14th February 2007, 08:46 AM
I have a spare uncoded key i got in for a mate who then sold the car.I paid about $420 for it, will let it go for around $350 just PM me
( PART NO.CWE 100680KIT)

JohnE
14th February 2007, 08:47 AM
I guess the remote in the d2 is the same as the di, the rubber bits you press are available as spare parts.rubber only, not expensive from memory.
Don't do what i did when mine first fell apart and keep using the thing. the micro switches underneath have a plastic button on top and this too wears off making the thing unusable. two brand new remotes later.
they have to be dealer coded, so i found otu and the buggers off course charge you for it.

Pedro that is a regular problem , i guess no one admits to it, thats why they have the rubber inserts as a spare part item.


john

harlie
14th February 2007, 08:55 AM
different key to D1

Pedro_The_Swift
14th February 2007, 09:43 AM
Anyone help on this one?????

Doc

so how many kays has your '99 done Doc?

Handbrake hates Camping
14th February 2007, 03:30 PM
so how many kays has your '99 done Doc?

Pedro,
Two so far and not looking forward to the third.

Doc

barryj
14th February 2007, 04:29 PM
This is the D2 key, http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s54/barryj_2007/D2Keysedited.jpg't=1171434594
Mine is broken as well so any ideas are most welcome.

dmdigital
14th February 2007, 05:44 PM
The key blank and fob are available as a single part, the key blank is also available seperately and so I assume is the fob part.

If you pay more than $290 for the whole thing (key+fob) you've been had.

Early D2's were mostly 314MHz but then they transitioned to the higher frequency. Any dealer can confirm frequency from your VIN.

The fob (or plip) comes with 2 barcodes, one is the key code for the BCU the second is the initial sycronisation code for the BCU. Every time you press the button this code is changed in the BCU.

Another thought for the rubber part is to try a wrecker. The key fob's are useless without the primary barcode (although it can be read from BCU) so you could then just swap the guts and the key over with a key fob from a wreck.

LandyAndy
14th February 2007, 06:54 PM
HarryW was getting one,if he misses this post try sending him a PM
Andrew

Handbrake hates Camping
15th February 2007, 05:05 PM
So I guess I be the guinea pig. I PM'd HarryW and he hadn't received his. So off to spend my hard earned on one from the US and see if it works, if not well I got a spare case and key blank. Will report back and let people know.... Unless anyone else has any experience that haven't read this thread yet.

Doc

dmdigital
15th February 2007, 05:13 PM
So I guess I be the guinea pig. I PM'd HarryW and he hadn't received his. So off to spend my hard earned on one from the US and see if it works, if not well I got a spare case and key blank. Will report back and let people know.... Unless anyone else has any experience that haven't read this thread yet.

Doc

Did you try a Wrecker (e.g. Triumph Rover Spares) for an old key fob?

Pedro_The_Swift
15th February 2007, 06:59 PM
so how many kays has your '99 done Doc?


Pedro,
Two so far and not looking forward to the third.

Doc


TWO KAYS!!
and its already done the key fob,,,

man you must give them a hard time---:D



kays,, kilometres, distance,,
I must type in Vulcan,, :unsure:

Handbrake hates Camping
15th February 2007, 09:48 PM
TWO KAYS!!
and its already done the key fob,,,

man you must give them a hard time---:D



kays,, kilometres, distance,,
I must type in Vulcan,, :unsure:


So I can't read straight.... well I guess I answered what I thought you were asking not what you really asked.

Anyway to cut to the chase 168K so far.


Doc

stevo
15th February 2007, 10:48 PM
allso putting the key through the washing machine does'nt do them anygood either lasted a week before dying

p38arover
7th April 2007, 10:58 PM
See http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-rover-disco-2-Plip-315Mhz_W0QQitemZ260103263595QQcategoryZ30862QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

Ron

dmdigital
8th April 2007, 06:37 AM
See http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Land-rover-disco-2-Plip-315Mhz_W0QQitemZ260103263595QQcategoryZ30862QQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

Ron

Good find Ron

Just remember there are 2 frequencies used on the D2's. The early ones are most likely the 315MHz and the later ones and post 03MY D2a are 433MHz. A dealer can check the frequency from your VIN.

If the price goes above $295 it's cheaper to buy from a dealer!

Sharpie
21st May 2007, 01:23 PM
Ok i've had the same problem with the key bottons falling apart. Here's the solution you can go on ebay as i did and look for a Shop called Key Spot which is over in Canada, I purchased one a couple of weeks ago (did not give 2 hoots about the code problem) from him for $119.00 AUD delivered. When it was delivered (about 2weeks) just swap the guts over and then get the blank cut and hey presto brand new key for under half the price. Key Spot will also supply you with the code number if needed but only required if the lugs have fallen off the curcit board.

Good Luck

P.s. have been using mine for a couple off weeks now with no hassels..

barryj
21st May 2007, 02:25 PM
Ok i've had the same problem with the key bottons falling apart. Here's the solution you can go on ebay as i did and look for a Shop called Key Spot which is over in Canada, I purchased one a couple of weeks ago (did not give 2 hoots about the code problem) from him for $119.00 AUD delivered. When it was delivered (about 2weeks) just swap the guts over and then get the blank cut and hey presto brand new key for under half the price. Key Spot will also supply you with the code number if needed but only required if the lugs have fallen off the curcit board.

Good Luck

P.s. have been using mine for a couple off weeks now with no hassels..

Is this the key? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LANDROVER-ROVER-2003-2004-03-04-KEYLESS-REMOTE-KEY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33723QQihZ019QQitem Z290116980281

What year Discovery is yours? I just purchsed a geniune key for $295 programmed to my 2001 Discovery. I still need to get the blank cut as I want to keep the old one for a spare.

Sharpie
21st May 2007, 03:28 PM
My Disco 2 is 1999

here is the link for the key that i needed ..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-02-03-2001-2002-2003-LANDROVER-DISCOVERY-REMOTE-KEY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33723QQihZ019QQitem Z290117710896QQrdZ1

Pedro_The_Swift
21st May 2007, 03:32 PM
The one on that site looks the goods for '99 to '02,

didnt someone say the rubbers can be replaced??
(ASSUMING its rubbers:p)

barryj
21st May 2007, 03:58 PM
The one on that site looks the goods for '99 to '02,

didnt someone say the rubbers can be replaced??
(ASSUMING its rubbers:p)


No the rubber is one piece. That's the problem with D2 fobs.

This is what happens to them,

http://www.aulro.com/app/showphoto.php/photo/4053/ppuser/9149/sl/b

barryj
21st May 2007, 04:04 PM
My Disco 2 is 1999

here is the link for the key that i needed ..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/01-02-03-2001-2002-2003-LANDROVER-DISCOVERY-REMOTE-KEY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33723QQihZ019QQitem Z290117710896QQrdZ1


That looks like an original Land Rover fob. It's good to know you can just replace the insides from the broken one.

On the original fob you can pull out the metal blade to put into the new fob. Do you know if the one you bought will alow this?

Nice find and heaps cheaper than geniune.

Sharpie
21st May 2007, 04:36 PM
That looks like an original Land Rover fob. It's good to know you can just replace the insides from the broken one.

On the original fob you can pull out the metal blade to put into the new fob. Do you know if the one you bought will alow this?

Nice find and heaps cheaper than geniune.
i couldn't remove the key on mine it looked as though it had been glued in but it only cost me $6.50 to get it cut..

barryj
21st May 2007, 04:52 PM
i couldn't remove the key on mine it looked as though it had been glued in but it only cost me $6.50 to get it cut..


I thought it was glued in but the mechanic at MR's at Redcliffe pulled the blade out by hand but it was tighter to put back in.

harryw
22nd May 2007, 02:57 PM
Sharpie

You were lucky I sent my money in October and am still waiting for the key.

Sharpie
22nd May 2007, 03:00 PM
who did you deal with ??

harryw
22nd May 2007, 03:14 PM
Forget his name but at least 10 emails passed between us he claims to have posted a further 2 keys and then claimed to send a refund.

When I asked him for a faxed copy of the refund he purchased he claimed not to have kept the receipt!. most unlikely

If you look at his feedback every now and then a dispute arises when a non delivery takes place.

He won't use Paypal you have to send him a cheque and so you have no recourse.

I complained to ebay so may be he has cleaned his act up.

One of us was luckier than the other.:(

Sharpie
22nd May 2007, 03:54 PM
do you remember if the guy was called keyspot ??

harryw
22nd May 2007, 07:12 PM
His name is Mike Borenler operates out of Canada but has a depot in USA and trades under the name of Keyspot.

This is an email he sent me on November 1st



Hi there. Please rest assured that this is well on its way. International delivery is sometimes delayed – especially with electronics. If you do not receive it by the end of this week please let me know and I will call Canada post and ask them to trace it.



This one in January



Harry,
I guess a money order is the only solution. I did not make it to the western union outlet today but I will tomorrow. At the same time, once the money order is issued I will be mailing it via Canada Post.


And still nothing has arrived, he made all the right responses answered every email but as I said one of us was lucky and the other wasn't

Sharpie
22nd May 2007, 08:33 PM
wow ! that would of hurt the back pocket a bit, i'm just glad i can get this problem out of the road and get on to the others with the car.

Pedro_The_Swift
30th June 2007, 09:12 AM
just wondering if the key finally turned up,,,


and

has anybody replaced the battery in a D2 keyfob recently,, and kept the number:angel:

dmdigital
30th June 2007, 09:47 AM
Its a standard CR2032 - Land Rover recommend the Panasonic and I'd second that over an Energizer or Duracell, other option would be Varta.

Pedro_The_Swift
30th June 2007, 09:52 AM
is it just levered off?
(looks a likely spot in the key ring section)

harryw
30th June 2007, 10:28 AM
The key has not arrived.

Luckily we found the other one so apart from being annoyed for being ripped off I've moved on and am wiser for the experience.


regards

dmdigital
30th June 2007, 10:59 AM
is it just levered off?
(looks a likely spot in the key ring section)

Yes use a small flat screw drive blade at the top (where it attaches to the key ring) you will see a small slot. Just prises open.

Pedro_The_Swift
30th June 2007, 11:37 AM
the bloody net hey harryw:mad::mad:

thanks dm_td5:D

barryj
30th June 2007, 11:48 AM
the bloody net hey harryw:mad::mad:

thanks dm_td5:D

That's what the fish said when it got caught ..... food for thought :D.