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isuzu110
19th February 2007, 03:21 PM
Ok, so my old County and newer Defender have some rivets missing from the bodywork. Thinking about replacing them.

What's special about them ? What do I ask for when I go to the nut and bolt barn ?

Thanks

Frenchie
19th February 2007, 03:48 PM
Just make sure you get aluminium ones I suppose, that way you won't get any corrosion.

p38arover
19th February 2007, 04:16 PM
Or monel metal? Do they need to be blind rivets so that they don't leak? :p

Ron

dmdigital
19th February 2007, 04:32 PM
Or monel metal? Do they need to be blind rivets so that they don't leak? :p

Ron

Yes, they are supposed to be blind rivets. Size is (I think) 6-4 someone please correct me if that's wrong

JDNSW
19th February 2007, 07:09 PM
Or monel metal? Do they need to be blind rivets so that they don't leak? :p

Ron

Don't use monel on aluminium - it will cause electrolytic corrosion. I am reminded of a J class yacht built at great expense in about 1910 with monel frames and aluminium cladding - lasted less than nine months before falling to pieces. Use aluminium rivets.

They need to be sealed rivets if they are in a place where leaks matter - but in many cases they don't matter.

justinc
19th February 2007, 07:24 PM
I think 6-4 is right, I'll have a look on the box tomorrow. I have been replacing a few lately, especially behind the rear doors....and yes, definately aluminium, but not necessarily blind for body work.

JC

Dave110
19th February 2007, 07:58 PM
'Pop' brand distributed by Huck Australia AD68 aluminium closed rivet with steel mandrel, exactly the same as LR part 78248. 11.5mm long, 4.8 mm Dia. max grip 6.4mm, number 11 drill bit about $36 for 500 and not $1.10 each that the stealers charge

justinc
19th February 2007, 08:00 PM
By the looks of your Avatar Dave110, it looks like YOU'D know ALL about rivet specs!!! Looks nasty.

JC

Stepho_62
19th February 2007, 08:07 PM
Rivets in LandRovers are no different to fasteners in any other metals. You should always try to use like for like.

One of the things you learn real quick owning a steel boat is about electrolysis. 318 stainless steel fasteners in mild steel plate for argument sake without any type of protection (either coating or cathodic) results in very rapid corrosion developing in the mild steel.

Lanolin is used extensively in the marine environment as a protective coating. If you dip the rivet into Lanolin prior to setting it it will not corrode for years even without priming and painting.

JDNSW
19th February 2007, 08:14 PM
......... If you dip the rivet into Lanolin prior to setting it it will not corrode for years even without priming and painting.

But you'd better get ALL the lanolin off if you are planning to paint it!

John

justinc
19th February 2007, 08:33 PM
Yee Haar! Did it burst?? Did it? do yo have pics? was there much of a mess?? did the 'fender smell like an abattoir for weeks after????

I love the road kills in the territory, they go on for hundreds of metres....

Reminds me of our last trip to QLDin the rangie, EVERY cow, pig, big red roo etc we saw dead the other half wanted to stop and take pics. The big pigs were the best, they don't half blow up, and the smell!!!! I was careful to park upwind,

JC

Dave110
19th February 2007, 08:49 PM
By the looks of your Avatar Dave110, it looks like YOU'D know ALL about rivet specs!!! Looks nasty.

JC

for some reason I cant load the pics I'll try again later is anyone else having trouble loading pics?

Cameron_Def
22nd February 2007, 09:22 AM
where would be the best spot to get some aluminum rivets ? seeing I do not need 500 of the suckers, would / should my local hardware have them ?

Cameron_Def
22nd February 2007, 11:16 AM
where would be the best spot to get some aluminum rivets ? seeing I do not need 500 of the suckers, would / should my local hardware have them ?

Just in case someone wants to know ... bunnings have them 100 for $6.35 a packet...

should do me for a loooong time!

JDNSW
22nd February 2007, 07:42 PM
where would be the best spot to get some aluminum rivets ? seeing I do not need 500 of the suckers, would / should my local hardware have them ?

Yes, although possibly not sealed ones.

John