House - burglar alarms - diy?

[landrovermick]

I few years ago i knew a bloke that did alarms on the side. He showed me a catalogue of a place somewhere in sydney that was like an alarm supermarket - or alarm warehouse that sold trade alarm parts,

As my wife and i have just bought a house i was going to get the ole man - landroverterry (sparks) to do the alarm -

does anyone know of a place (other than jaycar) that do alarm bits n pieces to the trade....

Mick

[Utemad]

I don't know of places but my Dad's place has a back to base alarm. I'm pretty sure it was free (inc. install) so long as you signed up to their monitoring plan for a set period. Similar to mobile phones.

It was all plug and play. No sparky required.

[p38arover]

A large dog is, I believe, more effective.

Mick, in your profession, you should have access to the data of which is the best deterrent. Some of our neighbiours have been burgled. We have never had a problem

A house nearby has had its alarm system go off on a regular basis for many years - at least the last 14 (since we returned to Australia). We disregard it.

No one disregards our dog - not even our rellies! OK, I'm wrong - the 6 and 7 yo school girls on their way home from school come up to our gate to say G'day to Johnson - but adults stay clear. :D

The biggest problem is that one can't drop everything and just go away for the weekend. We need to book a kennel (I won't take a dog with me).
Ron (Labrador owner).

[cartm58]

a large standard poodle that has a hairy coat which disguises what breed he is is also very effective about size of a german shepherd and prehaps slightly more intelligent.

no one walks past the house let alone come to the front door without Jacque making sure they know he is watching them.

he is a pain in the **** as though he can actually see whats on television so dogs and animals on tv sets him off and he also barracks for the eagles (the ex corrupted him with chips on the lounge to get him to swap from being a pies supporter)

[drivesafe]

Hi landrovermick, when I use to do security installations, this was the company I dealt with

Micron Alarms, their web site needs a bit of work but if you click around it you should find what you need. See the link bellow.

Good mob and always helpful with info on their products and they are out your way, near Seven Hills.

Cheers

http://www.micronsecurity.com/products.php

[Pedro_The_Swift]

buggar the house,, we'd rather take the dog along!!:D

[Utemad]

A large dog is, I believe, more effective......The biggest problem is that one can't drop everything and just go away for the weekend. We need to book a kennel.

This is the problem with a dog. When you go away people generally take the dog with them or put them in a kennel. The dog isn't doing much for home protection then.
We have always had German Shephards at my Dad's house since I was a kid. One was a trained guard dog. It seemed like the dumbest dog we ever had to me but friends used to comment on that vicious dog we had if they came over and we weren't home. It even jumped a very high gate we had to stop someone stealing our lawn mower that had been left out. That was impressive.
Problem these days is when my parent's go away so do the dogs. So they got an alarm after they got robbed while they were away.

[Vern]

If you know someone in the electrical trade you can get a kit from the wholesalers, it is packaged as clipsal but is actually a Ness D8. They are around $400 for the kit but you may need extra pir's. I'm installing one at my mums today.

[landrovermick]

excellent guys, the old man is a sparky, the alarm is for my wife - we have adog, but she wants to alarm herself in when im away for work,

I have been a big one for "get a dog mate and put the alarm box under the eaves, the crooks will move on to the house that doesnt have either" - the advice I have given for years.

But if it makes my wife feel safer when im away im happy to do it. -

as they say happy wife - happy life!

[landrovermick]

If you know someone in the electrical trade you can get a kit from the wholesalers, it is packaged as clipsal but is actually a Ness D8. They are around $400 for the kit but you may need extra pir's. I'm installing one at my mums today.


thanks mate - whats in the kit ? how many pir's glass break sensor, remote rf system, can i add garage door opener? etc

when you say wholesalers - do you mean LH and middys etc ?

[Vern]

Yeah L&H, Middy's. The Alarm has 2 PIRs, 2 reed swithces, internal siren, external siren, strobe light , keypad, panel. The Ness alarms are very adaptable to remote control stuff, like pirs, remote activation etc...

[drivesafe]

In this day and age, it’s a waste of time fitting glass breaking detectors as its usually a mongrel job trying to get wire to the sensors plus if you fit a wireless controlled alarm panel and fit all your detectors on centre walls of the house, facing towards the the external walls, not only can you cover all the windows in a room with one detector, because the detectors are fitting on centre walls, the cabling is easily reached as it’s nearly always in higher access areas of the roof space.

Also, if you get a wireless controlled alarm, there is usually an output from the alarm that allows you to control the garage doors.

Another little stunt is to get an alarm with programmable outputs and program two of these output to pulse a relay that can be connected to a small light or LED fitted to the siren cover and you use this to indicate when the alarm is turning on or off and then you don’t need to have the siren beep at 2 am when you come home. neighbours just love that.

Cheers.

[landrovermick]

In this day and age, it’s a waste of time fitting glass breaking detectors as its usually a mongrel job trying to get wire to the sensors plus if you fit a wireless controlled alarm panel and fit all your detectors on centre walls of the house, facing towards the the external walls, not only can you cover all the windows in a room with one detector, because the detectors are fitting on centre walls, the cabling is easily reached as it’s nearly always in higher access areas of the roof space.

Also, if you get a wireless controlled alarm, there is usually an output from the alarm that allows you to control the garage doors.

Another little stunt is to get an alarm with programmable outputs and program two of these output to pulse a relay that can be connected to a small light or LED fitted to the siren cover and you use this to indicate when the alarm is turning on or off and then you don’t need to have the siren beep at 2 am when you come home. neighbours just love that.

Cheers.

Bewdy thanks for that the middys one is the go - thought i may give ness a call - i have had some contact with them beroe over thie camera set ups - i know they look after the boys - either way thanks for the advice will keep posted.

Mick

[amshaw]

Bewdy thanks for that the middys one is the go - thought i may give ness a call - i have had some contact with them beroe over thie camera set ups - i know they look after the boys - either way thanks for the advice will keep posted.

Mick

Are you having a Security company Look after your place ie alarm responce while you are away? :angel:

Dont expect the Police or anybody else to care if the alarm is going off its head.......:eek:

Not much point having an alarm that calls your mob when you are 400km away:)

[drivesafe]

No worries landrovermick, if you need any help just post your questions here and I’ll try to be of some assistance.

I was a licensed installer and a part time lecturer at TAFE on security for those going for the installers licence in NSW for about 10 years so if I can help just yell.

Cheers

[Loaded]

If you want quality and reliability get NESS products.

[drivesafe]

There’s quiet a few alarm brands out there, some good, some are nothing more than cheap junk and it can be hard to know what's what.

After using a few different brands, when I was fitting, I found EDMs to be about the most reliable and the most flexible when it came to setting up for different situations.

It's also the one I have protecting my place now.

But that’s just my opinion.

[Scouse]

Dont expect the Police.....to care if the alarm is going off its head.......:eek:

I don't think that will be a problem in Mick's case :cool: .

I've fitted a car alarm to my house. I even wired up the red LEDs above the front & back doors :) .

[drivesafe]

I don't think that will be a problem in Mick's case :cool:

Yep, but didn’t want to go there :wasntme: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[landrovermick]

I don't think that will be a problem in Mick's case :cool: .

I've fitted a car alarm to my house. I even wired up the red LEDs above the front & back doors :) .

trust me they wont be in any greater hurry than anyone elses place... General Duties police are just uniformed report takers

the highway patrol may speed to get here - so they can drive fast - but then theyll try and throw the job at the GD's when there get here if there aint anyone here, and the detectives if there is someone caught. - theres no investigation in writing a traffic ticket... he he he