Ideas wanted

[amtravic1]

Our next door neighbour has a tree that really annoys us. They have planted trees all along their south boundary and they block alot of sun to our yard in the winter months. As well as that, one of the trees is constantly dropping seeds, leaves and seed pods all year. I need to clean our gutters out 3-4 times a year because of that one tree. We have offered to pay to have it cut down but they will not do it.
I have poisoned one of the connifer trees at the back and it is dying slowly. It seems that the poison was very effective by just spraying a little on the leaves.
The other tree is a different sort and is proving much harder to get to. I have tried spraying the tree but cant get up the tree far enough for it to be effective. I bought one of those Super Soaker water pistols that are supposed to shoot up to 10 metres but that was useless and would only shoot around 3 metres. I have tried pressure garden sprayers but they dont spray far enough. I also dont want to be standing directly under the spray and get the stuff on me.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what I could use to spray the tree. It is around 8 metres high and I want to soak the leaves. This will need to be done late at night/early morning as the people sleep nearly all day and dont go to bed until very late (dont work/almost never go out for more that half an hour). It will also need to be quiet as they have a couple of dogs that bark at the slightest noise.

thanks,
ian

[Bigbjorn]

Sympathise with you. I have had similar problems with neighbours planting highly unsuitable trees. There is a product called Blackberry and Tree Killer. It needs to be mixed with distillate or a mix of oil and kero, and sprayed or brushed on the trunk of the tree to a height of two metres or more. Works better if you can slash the trunk in a number of places with a tomahawk or machete. The stink of diesel/kero is a bit of a give away. Takes a while to kill and may have to be repeated one or two times. I used 5T40 years ago ( part of Agent Orange) but this is no longer available. It worked bloody well.

[953]

Heavy duty,STAY COOL,I can c your annoyed but dont let this problem blow out of proportion.
Talk 2 your neighbour again & if that doesnt work talk 2 your local council.
Ring a pro tree lopping firm they should know the legalities.
Eventually u should be able 2 come 2 a reasonable solution.
If all else fails set fire 2 it:wasntme:
Only joking of coarse,your a rational person, pity your neighbour isnt more considerate:mad:
Cheers Dean.

[landrovermick]

yeah what he said, basically DONT ever tell anyone you did this - as it is malicious damage to that point i would never mention it in a PUBLIC forum....

just because you use a screen name doesnt mean you are invisible....

Mick

[Datt]

Maybe you could use those little water bomb ballons you use as a kid for water fights. Might be a bit tricky filly them without getting the poisen everywhere. COuld use a dispenser of some sought and wear rubber gloves. Have a practice run with just water in a similar tree to make sure the baloon is gonna burst, other wise the poison one might go straight through the tree and burst on one of the dogs head or something.

Matt.

[CraigE]

They are legally obliged to remove any leaves / debris that fall into your yard. Present them with a bill for the cleaning up and I bet they change their mind quick.

[dmdigital]

Tordon is a good tree fertilizer. Just nick part of an offending branch and inject some. Usually they change health very quickly.

:angel:

[101RRS]

They are legally obliged to remove any leaves / debris that fall into your yard. Present them with a bill for the cleaning up and I bet they change their mind quick.

Maybe where you live but not most other places - the owner has no obligation to make good any repair, damage, rubbish that falls from your tree - I have just been through this with my insurance company and council.

I have heaps of trees that overhang a neighbour on a house I own - not problem until he put a pool in his backyard and then started complaining about the trees - a feature of where the house is the bush land setting.

Being a good neighbour I told him I didn't have a problem with the trees but I would have no objection if he trimmed them - no wuurries but soon he was back at me about the trees - so I said if he went halves with me I would have them removed - no problems except that the council would not agree and no tree removalist will remove them without approval - and it isn't a job for amateurs.

So the neighbour knows I have tried to do my best but he still is on at me about the trees. What can you do - as I said there was no problem until the pool went in and these trees were on the block before building so he knew they were there before he bought his land and built.

Where I live now - a neighbour asked if I would trim my back trees - I did that yesterday but I must admit that what did speed me up was the electricity company giving me three weeks to have them trimmed - now all I have to do is take the 5 or 6 trailer loads of clippings to the tip.

As long as your request is reasonable the neighbour should do the right thing and clip them - recently a Sydney council stepped in and ordered a recalcitrant owner to trim their trees.

Gazzz

[p38arover]

Last year I trimmed back a stack of vines overgrowing from my next door neighbour's place into mine in Coffs Harbour. I then went to his real estate agent and asked them to arrange to have it all collected and dumped. They did - I didn't pay for it.

Ron

[B92 8NW]

Remove it via legal means :)

[Tank]

Our next door neighbour has a tree that really annoys us. They have planted trees all along their south boundary and they block alot of sun to our yard in the winter months. As well as that, one of the trees is constantly dropping seeds, leaves and seed pods all year. I need to clean our gutters out 3-4 times a year because of that one tree. We have offered to pay to have it cut down but they will not do it.
I have poisoned one of the connifer trees at the back and it is dying slowly. It seems that the poison was very effective by just spraying a little on the leaves.
The other tree is a different sort and is proving much harder to get to. I have tried spraying the tree but cant get up the tree far enough for it to be effective. I bought one of those Super Soaker water pistols that are supposed to shoot up to 10 metres but that was useless and would only shoot around 3 metres. I have tried pressure garden sprayers but they dont spray far enough. I also dont want to be standing directly under the spray and get the stuff on me.
Anyone have any suggestions as to what I could use to spray the tree. It is around 8 metres high and I want to soak the leaves. This will need to be done late at night/early morning as the people sleep nearly all day and dont go to bed until very late (dont work/almost never go out for more that half an hour). It will also need to be quiet as they have a couple of dogs that bark at the slightest noise.

thanks,
ian
If you poison the tree you are liable to be fined by council and sued by your neighbour, use your scone and do as Numpty's Missus said, ask the neighbours to remove any branches, foilage that is on your side of the property, if they say no, inform them with a letter that you intend to have the offending branches removed and placed neatly on their property and you will send them the bill for this exercise, you have the legal right to remove any branches encroaching your property and to place them neatly on their property, Regards Frank.

[gruntfuttock]

As this is a public forum, and certain things are illegal, I will tell a total fictitious story.

Onece upon a time, Mr J Smith had a new neighbor move in, a Mr & Mrs Gunna, Mr Gunna seemed a nice bloke at the start. He quickly showed his talents in gardening by planting some large shrubs by Mr Smiths Vegetable garden, even though Mr Smith asked him not to. Mr Smith was not able to grow any more vegetables as these bushes took all the goodness from the vegie garden. Mr Smith asked Mr Gunna if he would consider moving these shrubs a little bit. "They are not worring me" was his answer. The next week there were some LARGE trees planted next to the shrubs. In a couple of years Mrs Smith could not dry her washing in Winter because these trees were casting permanent shade over the garden. Mr Gunna was not going to trim them as he said that he liked large trees. Mr Smith then went digging on his side of the fence and found some nice large roots that seemed to be comming from the property of Mr Gunna. So he cut the roots at the correct diameter that would fit into a glass drink bottle, he filled the drink bottle with some old poision he found and placed the root in that and re buried it. He did this with all the rootes he found that were big enough.
It was not all that long that the trees and shurbs looked rather sick. Mr Gunna tried to find out what was the matter but he could not come up with a solution. In the end after a few yeras the shrubs and trees just seemed to dry up and die. Mr Gunna did not plant any more trees there as it was not a good spot for trees and Mr & Mrs Smith could now grow vegies and dry their clothes and they all lived happily ever after.

Now isn't that a nice bedtime story :) :D

[Quiggers]

My neighbour at the diagonal backyard planted a small norfolk pine (about 2 metres). He's reasonable (ish). Over a beer at the pub one day (with others) I said to him: "Do you know there's a sewer main about 3 metres from where you planted that tree and when it gets going it'll wreck the sewer system for the rest of the suburb and they'll be after you??"

It was long gone in less than 24 hours......

And he also levelled the rest of his back yard - just in case...... and then popped in a pool!

GQ

[EchiDna]

My neighbour at the diagonal backyard planted a small norfolk pine (about 2 metres).....

:o the family property has one on the front lawn... it must shade an area 10+ metres in diameter and it's well over 30 metres tall, supposedly about 75 years old..... be glad it disappeared they are completely inappropriate for urban areas IMHO...

[p38arover]

Having lived on Norfolk Island and seen how easily they come down in a big wind, e.g., cyclone, I wouldn't want a big one near me. They are often hollow inside but look great from the outside.

Captian Cook thought they'd make great masts but they don't because the branches come out at the same spot at each level - they don't have a lot of strength.

Ron

[p38arover]

I had a large gum in the front yard that mysteriously died after the next door neighbour complained about it. After it died he offered to pay for half of the removal cost. I wonder why.

I was happy to see it go - I'd wanted to remove it but the Council said no.

Ron

[EchiDna]

As this is a public forum, and certain things are illegal, I will tell a total fictitious story.



I got a similar fairytale to tell...

once upon a time a neighbour to a Mr Blogs planted a double row of silver birches less than 2 metres apart, less than half a metre from the boundary fence - he should have looked across the yard to notice the 20+ metre specimen silver birch and thought better, but no... anyway, the SEC came along and wanted to bury all the powerlines in the aftermath of ash wednesday 1983 (this was in about 1985) and they needed to get their trench dug to a minimum depth of 75cm right on the fenceline. A dozen punnets of petunias later and nobody was any the wiser. Eventually Spring came but the silver birches showed no signs of new leaves...

Moral of the story: an SEC workcrew will dig a trench any depth you like in any location you like given an adequate supply of appropriate liquid refreshments :)

[Blknight.aus]

hydrofluric acid...

Inject it deep into some limbs on your side as close to their side as you can...

wait a week, then cut off the stuff on your side as your legally entitled to do

Just dont get any of the acid on anything you particulalry want to see kept alive.

:)

of course getting the acids a trick in itself

[p38arover]

Especially as hydrofluoric acid will dissolve anything - including the glass bottles in which it comes. (I believe they first make a saturated glass solution so that it can't dissolve anymore glass before they pour it into the glass bottle.)

Ron

[Frenchie]

hydrofluric acid...


Just dont get any of the acid on anything you particulalry want to see kept alive.

Like yourself. :eek:

Nasty, nasty stuff.

[p38arover]

Mr Smith then went digging on his side of the fence and found some nice large roots that seemed to be comming from the property of Mr Gunna. So he cut the roots at the correct diameter that would fit into a glass drink bottle, he filled the drink bottle with some old poision he found and placed the root in that and re buried it. He did this with all the rootes he found that were big enough.

I like it. You haven't entered the other person's property.

I'll remember that one.

Ron

[Bushie]

Captian Cook thought they'd make great masts but they don't because the branches come out at the same spot at each level - they don't have a lot of strength.

Ron


Was he the Spanish one? :D:D


Martyn

[p38arover]

:( :(

Ron

[gruntfuttock]

Was he the Spanish one? :D:D


Martyn
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[p38arover]

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Bushie was thinking of Capitan Cook - I wrote Captian instead of Captain.

Three spellings for the price of one! :D

Ron

[UncleHo]

Well Spotted Bushie:D :D

[gruntfuttock]

well spellink und gramma i was never no good at anyways:D :D

[BMKal]

Especially as hydrofluoric acid will dissolve anything - including the glass bottles in which it comes. (I believe they first make a saturated glass solution so that it can't dissolve anymore glass before they pour it into the glass bottle.)

Ron

OK to store Hydroflouric in plastic. While it will eat through anything silica-based, it will not eat through plastic. We use it a bit in gold mining assay labs. But whatever you do, don't get this stuff on your skin. It most likely won't hurt a bit - you may think that you have just splashed some water on yourself. But in a short while, it will attack the calcium in your bones, and when this starts, it virtually cannot be stopped.

[grumpybastard]

Get over it!

As you and i both live in the city of Knox you will be well aware of the by-laws concerning trees and the penalties that apply to cutting or intentionally killing trees!

If you dont like trees i suggest that you move to the CBD!

FFS you live at the bottom of the Dandenong ranges and you dont like trees because they drop leaves!

*Shocked*

http://www.matts-domain.com/web/pics.nsf/pictures/MARR-6KBGCU/$File/MARR-6KBGCU.jpg

[sclarke]

Off the record as i have NEVER done this......

Many years back we had a house on 5 acres with a very good Ocean view. Well the person across the road was pigmently challenged and had won a great deal of $$ and bought over from us, he planted some nice pines to block our view. Now the song "living next door to alan" springs to mind.
We went over and i ammused his german shepard and my parental parner in crime nailed about 8 or so copper nails in the base at ground level.
over the next few months they slowly died and he was left with several dead pine tree's, but he left them there....... they were worse than the live ones.
After he killed a bloke in a drunken driving episode he went off to the nice building with no veiws and his wife replaced the tree's with nice new ones.

Reminds me of a joke, Where's your Bin???, Wheely bin to jail but tell people i was on holidays.

ok, i'll go back and hide under my humpy......

[Chenz]

I am not sure what the rules are in Victoria but in NSW they recently passed a Bill called the Tree (Disputes Between Neighbours) Bill. I attached a copy if that is any help.

I agree that discussion sometimes works but if that fails simple old Glyphosate or as it is commonly called Roundup works very well on roots so if you excavate near the fence and find some just cut and paint on exposed root wood and Rons your harmonica player. Ther beauty of this chemical is that it biodegrades in the soil very quickly so you can plant a day after applying and it will have not effect on the plant. It wont even hurt the lawn if you apply to rootsd and then fill the hole in. http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/nswbills.nsf/7bd7da67ee5a02c5ca256e67000c8755/2c10dfb1acb8c116ca257211001ce96a!OpenDocument

[DeeJay]

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Mr Smith then went digging on his side of the fence and found some nice large roots that seemed to be comming from the property of Mr Gunna. So he cut the roots at the correct diameter that would fit into a glass drink bottle, he filled the drink bottle with some old poision he found and placed the root in that and re buried it. He did this with all the rootes he found that were big enough.

I like it. You haven't entered the other person's property.

I'll remember that one.


Ron[/quote]

No no Mr Smith never entered the other persons property. You nearly tricked us there Ron:D

[p38arover]

Sorry, I meant "One hasn't entered...."

Ron

[Studio54]

A copper nail i the trunk should do it in no time :)

[easo]

If it hangs over your side of the fence, fire up the chain saw. I also like the water bombs.