Land Rover 90 Defenders are everywhere

[DarrenR]

While I am sitting here doing nothing, I pondered something else...

I've seen heaps... well ok... 4 Land Rover Defender 90's where I live (Gladstone QLD) and a few of you lot here also have 90's, whats with that? are they cheap to import? and I'm guessing they don't have any problems meeting Australian compliance.

Best regards
DarrenR

[defender90]

i bought mine straight from the dealer 3 years ago

[Reads90]

While I am sitting here doing nothing, I pondered something else...

I've seen heaps... well ok... 4 Land Rover Defender 90's where I live (Gladstone QLD) and a few of you lot here also have 90's, whats with that? are they cheap to import? and I'm guessing they don't have any problems meeting Australian compliance.

Best regards
DarrenR

Nope they don't . P.O.P to get into Aus. Infact really pi**ed off i did not bring my other one with me
There are two personal import 90s in brisbane that i know off

[DarrenR]

Oh, so you can order a Defender 90 from a dealer?
The one I saw two days ago was a 90 Extreme .... and and it was !! well no maybe not, but it still looked pretty good.

Best regards
DarrenR

[DarrenR]

Nope they don't . P.O.P to get into Aus

What's P.O.P ???

Best regards
DarrenR

[BigJon]

You used to be able to order them, we sold two a couple of years ago. One white, one yellow. I don't know if they are still available with the impending '07 Defender due soonish.

[Reads90]

What's P.O.P ???

Best regards
DarrenR

Peace of Pi**

[Reads90]

Oh, so you can order a Defender 90 from a dealer?
The one I saw two days ago was a 90 Extreme .... and and it was !! well no maybe not, but it still looked pretty good.

Best regards
DarrenR


Theres a 90 Extreme in Cleveland
I meet the bloke while i was in the company ute. I was at the mower repaiers and so was he. I said to him . Nice 90 and he said yeah. Don't see many of them.
I said i know i have one.
His reply was No you are mistaken this is a 90 not a seris 3. I said i know i have a soft top one. That confused him.
And sods law i keep on seeing him in my Ute but never when i am in the 90

[cmurray]

I got mine 7 years ago from Land Ranger spares in Adelaide. I took it to an machining/engineering joint in Warragul to get something made up, and they commented that it was a nice game!! The biggest problem I have is explaining to people that it is not a Defender and it is not a County, it is a base model Land Rover 90.

[akitda]

I have got mine one 3 years ago, it was the demo car for ULR in Melbourne. In fact, I don't like to get a demo car, but once I have stepped on my yellow 90, I was(am still) totally in love with it.:D

[discowhite]

The biggest problem I have is explaining to people that it is not a Defender and it is not a County, it is a base model Land Rover 90.


****e! i get that with mine and its 2004! i told the boss i had to take the 90 for a service, he asked why i wasnt doing it myself, i said its under warrenty!
his reply was ohh i thought it was an old one you built up:D



I've seen heaps... well ok... 4 Land Rover Defender 90's where I live (Gladstone QLD) and a few of you lot here also have 90's, whats with that? are they cheap to import? and I'm guessing they don't have any problems meeting Australian compliance.


one of them most likley be a red/maroon one with black flairs??
its a 2003 extreme, owned by a bloke at callide power station in biloela.
im coming up there next month! i might have to chase them down and get them on aulro:twisted:

cheers phil

[Reads90]

I got mine 7 years ago from Land Ranger spares in Adelaide. I took it to an machining/engineering joint in Warragul to get something made up, and they commented that it was a nice game!! The biggest problem I have is explaining to people that it is not a Defender and it is not a County, it is a base model Land Rover 90.

Better than what i got going around Aus. All i got most of time was Not seen that model of Jeep before. Or is that a new jeep model.
My reply was normaly . JEEP JEEP , Thats fighting talk That is

I used to just say it was a Defender 110 that has been left out in the rain too long and has shrunk ;)

[Nat130]

There's one here in Geelong, pretty sure it's an Extreeme, it's black with a white roof (I couldn't get a white roof when I bought the 110 Extreeme)

It's number plate is ORCA which I thought was quite fitting - not sure if it's someone on here?!

[DarrenR]

Peace of Pi**

Ohhhh lol ... *cough* I knew that.

Best regards
DarrenR

[DarrenR]

one of them most likley be a red/maroon one with black flairs??
its a 2003 extreme



Callide power station is 100Km's or there abouts inland, Biloela is slightly inland again. I haven't done any jobs out at the power station for a long time, but that would make 5 !!!

But of course now I'll be looking for it, got a job to do tomorrow at the coal mine next door then down to Taroon to do a job.

Best regards
DarrenR

[dullbird]

imported our defender 90 200tdi

was fairly easy but long process for us and we also think that the car took abuse from being at sea for so long........

it had rust before we brought it as its a uk car........but now its got serious rust


anyone know where we can get cheap capping strips as we now have a hole in one side

dullbird

[DarrenR]

I got mine 7 years ago from Land Ranger spares in Adelaide. I took it to an machining/engineering joint in Warragul to get something made up, and they commented that it was a nice game!! The biggest problem I have is explaining to people that it is not a Defender and it is not a County, it is a base model Land Rover 90.

I used to get that with my yellow SWB Series 3, "nice game" ...no it's not a Game, "but it's yellow" ... yes it is yellow, but not all yellow Landies are a Game (not that there was anything special about a Game).

So Land Rover 90 but not a Defender or County, so round that "County" era though then? What engine is in it, the last of the old 4's the diesel was a "Turbo D" is that right? before the 200TDi?

Best regards
DarrenR

[jik22]

Had I known how rare 90's are over here, I'd have bought an XS a year before we emigrated just so I could have bought it with me. Looked for ages for one, then bought a 110, then saw a 90 in the paper a week later. Oh well...good or bad, at least I have room for the kids in the 110.

[cmurray]

So Land Rover 90 but not a Defender or County, so round that "County" era though then? What engine is in it, the last of the old 4's the diesel was a "Turbo D" is that right? before the 200TDi?


Darren,
It's an 84 which had a 2.5 petrol, until I blew it up. As I have explained many a time, County actually refers to the trim specification. They had carpet and cloth seats as well as more sound deadening, and there were Series 3 Counties, and Defender Counties as well, mine was a base model, the seats looked like they were straight out of a series 3.

[rar110]

I bought capping for the 110 wagon from Landrover. It cost about $300 for both sides from memory. Pretty reasonable I thought.

[JDNSW]

When the 110 replaced the Series 3 109 in Ausralia, apparently a decision was made by JRA to discontinue the Series 3 altogether, perhaps because they were deeply involved with the Perentie project, or because they wanted to concentrate on the new vehicle. (The 90 replaced the 88 Series 3 almost two years after the 110 replaced the 109)
Apparently the demand for the short wheelbase was insufficient to pressure them to introduce it here when it became available. One reason may have been that it was not available with the V8, and the Isuzu, which used the V8 gearbox and transmission and hence panels, was seen as a bit much power and weight and too much modification for the short wheelbase - and the four cylinder engines were regarded as underpowered, particularly the diesel, and it was obvious by then that most sales would be diesels.

These arguments did not apply after the Tdi engine came in when the 90/110 was renamed as the Defender (1989)- but there were no Defenders imported for about a year or more then to avoid impacting on Disco sales. Later, around 2000 I think, the 90 was introduced here but apparently sales were so poor that they later discontinued it. It is probably still available to special order if you are insistent enough.

John

[defender90]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2009/09/1351.jpg
this is my red one at cape york

[Reads90]

imported our defender 90 200tdi

was fairly easy but long process for us and we also think that the car took abuse from being at sea for so long........

it had rust before we brought it as its a uk car........but now its got serious rust


anyone know where we can get cheap capping strips as we now have a hole in one side

dullbird

Get the early mid 80's one for the defender. They are Galvinised . That is what we swaped ours over for before we got it respayed. Learned after i had a 91 90 do the same thing.

BTW how did yours come over then. ours did not have any problems with rust on the way over, or anything . Looked the same as when i left it at the docks

[Reads90]

Darren,
It's an 84 which had a 2.5 petrol, until I blew it up. As I have explained many a time, County actually refers to the trim specification. They had carpet and cloth seats as well as more sound deadening, and there were Series 3 Counties, and Defender Counties as well, mine was a base model, the seats looked like they were straight out of a series 3.


oh the 2.5 petrol 90 i had one of them. No power but the ecomy of a V8. And the 5th gear was like a brake. You put it in 5th and it slowed down :D :D

[Reads90]

When the 110 replaced the Series 3 109 in Ausralia, apparently a decision was made by JRA to discontinue the Series 3 altogether, perhaps because they were deeply involved with the Perentie project, or because they wanted to concentrate on the new vehicle. (The 90 replaced the 88 Series 3 almost two years after the 110 replaced the 109)
Apparently the demand for the short wheelbase was insufficient to pressure them to introduce it here when it became available. One reason may have been that it was not available with the V8, and the Isuzu, which used the V8 gearbox and transmission and hence panels, was seen as a bit much power and weight and too much modification for the short wheelbase - and the four cylinder engines were regarded as underpowered, particularly the diesel, and it was obvious by then that most sales would be diesels.




But there were V8 90's in the early days of the 90's but then as no one bought them due to fuel cost . Then they stopped making them in about 1990's About the time the tdis started coming out.

[cmurray]

oh the 2.5 petrol 90 i had one of them. No power but the ecomy of a V8. And the 5th gear was like a brake. You put it in 5th and it slowed down :D :D

When i got it, it had 6.00x16s on it, and it was quite spritely, but when i put the 7.50x16s on, there was a noticeable power loss. Good thing about it though, is I have the 1.4:1 high range transfer gears, and if anything, it's just a little bit under geared with the V8 and 33s. Sits just above 2500 RPM at 100km/h.

[cmurray]

But there were V8 90's in the early days of the 90's but then as no one bought them due to fuel cost . Then they stopped making them in about 1990's About the time the tdis started coming out.

Actually they released the 90 in the US in 1994 with the 3.9 EFI V8 out of the disco, and stopped selling them there in 1997 I think because they would have needed to fit air bags, the very last ones were fitted with autos, and they released a limited edition one in Japan in 1998 with a 3.9 EFI V8, auto and leather seats I think.

[Reads90]

When i got it, it had 6.00x16s on it, and it was quite spritely, but when i put the 7.50x16s on, there was a noticeable power loss. Good thing about it though, is I have the 1.4:1 high range transfer gears, and if anything, it's just a little bit under geared with the V8 and 33s. Sits just above 2500 RPM at 100km/h.


Well this was my 2.5 petrol one. if i had kept it anylonger. I would have put a V8 in it:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2008/01/235.jpg

[Reads90]

Actually they released the 90 in the US in 1994 with the 3.9 EFI V8 out of the disco, and stopped selling them there in 1997 I think because they would have needed to fit air bags, the very last ones were fitted with autos, and they released a limited edition one in Japan in 1998 with a 3.9 EFI V8, auto and leather seats I think.



this is the mother all of 90 V8's 4.0 V8 Auto

http://www.4x4xfox.co.uk/images/forsale/50th%20Anniversary%20Front%20800.jpg

mmmmmm realoly wish i bought one of these over too

[Captain_Rightfoot]

By the way there is a yellow TD5 that is owned by a mate that lives in newfarm. It's quite a car too if you get to see it. Lots of nice little mods. :)

[easo]

Between 2004 and 2006 LR was only bringing out the 90s in black and yellow, the cost was the same as a 130. Who wants to pay the same as a 130 for a two door? If anything the 90 should have been cheaper than the 110. At cooma in 1998 there was only two 90s there. One private, that was a 110 cut down onto a 90 chassie, and another that the army had as a computer diagdostice test car. I know I spelt that wrong!

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Between 2004 and 2006 LR was only bringing out the 90s in black and yellow, the cost was the same as a 130. Who wants to pay the same as a 130 for a two door? If anything the 90 should have been cheaper than the 110. At cooma in 1998 there was only two 90s there. One private, that was a 110 cut down onto a 90 chassie, and another that the army had as a computer diagdostice test car. I know I spelt that wrong!
Actually, I thought the 90's during that period were 39 990 whereas the 110's were about 46 990. :)

[JDNSW]

One of the reasons for the lack of popularity of the 90 when introduced here was that it came only as a two seater, apparently due to the inability of the rear seats (and possibly the front centre seat) to meet ADRs - the 110 dropped the side facing seats some time earlier, presumably for the same reason.

Very few were interested in the 90 as a two seater. May have been different if, for example, the truck cab or soft top versions had been offered.

John

[Captain_Rightfoot]

That friend of mine has had the rear seats installed without problem and it's all complianced and legal. I presume it was a cost saving measure.

I absolutely love 90's. If I didn't have kids I'd have one in a flash. :)

[Reads90]

That friend of mine has had the rear seats installed without problem and it's all complianced and legal. I presume it was a cost saving measure.

I absolutely love 90's. If I didn't have kids I'd have one in a flash. :)

The rear seats are not ilegal. The extremes have them We had them in our 90 , untill we took them out. But in Aus they are only legal for Children up to about 11 and not for adults. So they might as well be two seaters:)

[JDNSW]

That friend of mine has had the rear seats installed without problem and it's all complianced and legal. I presume it was a cost saving measure.

......

That is interesting! Maybe the interpretation of ADRs differs between states? LRA would need to get agreement from the federal body that they met ADRs.

But I suppose it could be costs - more likely though it is not directly costs but the fact that the seat belt mounts are probably special to Australia (I am pretty certain the ones on my 110 are) - and with the vehicles fully imported (both 110 wagon and 90) they did not want to have to do any modifications.

Another possibility is that the rear seats (which we must admit are rather basic) did not fit in with the image they were selling to here - an upmarket suburban shopping trolley. (This is what they were aiming for, not necessarily the people who bought them)

John

[Richard]

Reads you talk of only know 9 import 90s in brisbane, i might be able to add another two to your list.

i spotted a green 90 county in the gap a while back, and i had a good chat with a young bloke driving a white county whos dad imported one, decked it out with air bags and used it for hauling chopped wood.

[JDNSW]

That friend of mine has had the rear seats installed without problem and it's all complianced and legal. I presume it was a cost saving measure.

......

That is interesting! Maybe the interpretation of ADRs differs between states? LRA would need to get agreement from the federal body that they met ADRs.

But I suppose it could be costs - more likely though it is not directly costs but the fact that the seat belt mounts are probably special to Australia (I am pretty certain the ones on my 110 are) - and with the vehicles fully imported (both 110 wagon and 90) they did not want to have to do any modifications.

Another possibility is that the rear seats (which we must admit are rather basic) did not fit in with the image they were selling to here - an upmarket suburban shopping trolley. (This is what they were aiming for, not necessarily the people who bought them)

John

[Reads90]

Reads you talk of only know 9 import 90s in brisbane, i might be able to add another two to your list.

i spotted a green 90 county in the gap a while back, and i had a good chat with a young bloke driving a white county whos dad imported one, decked it out with air bags and used it for hauling chopped wood.


I don't know 9 imported 90's .I only know of 2 in Brisbane. Know a few sort of sold here 90's:)

[90]

But there were V8 90's in the early days of the 90's but then as no one bought them due to fuel cost . Then they stopped making them in about 1990's About the time the tdis started coming out.

Yep, and I've got the first one. V8 90, built 1983, owned by Landrover 'till 1990, engine number 21G0001. County spec.

[Reads90]

Yep, and I've got the first one. V8 90, built 1983, owned by Landrover 'till 1990, engine number 21G0001. County spec.


Now that is worth money Even more so in the Uk.

1985 110 V8 worth bugger all about 1000 pounds
1985 V8 90 worth about 6000 pounds (real one)

[LandyAndy]

And 90 loves giving it stick!!!!
Goes real well,you could say its a tad modified!!!!
Nice Landy
Andrew