"Carefully prise..."

[sam_d]

My Disco's Gear Selector Panel Bulbs don't work and I am sure it just needs a quick replacement bulb putting in.

I have the instructions to do this but I am concerned by the phrase "Carefully prise quadrant finisher out of surround."

It's not that I wouldn't do this carefully anyway but has anyone replaced bulbs behing the gear selector panel and is there a best method/tool to use to prise off the finisher and the console away without causing any damage?

Cheers!

[mcrover]

Your fingers should do it as long as some one hasnt already broken the clips and has glued it to stop the vibration.

Grab it with the tips of your fingers at the front and pull upwards, worked on mine.

I wasnt too gentle with mine and I didnt break the tags so you should be Ok..

Good luck

[p38arover]

Sam, is that a Discovery 1 or 2?

I replaced them last week in my Disco 1 (there are two, one each side). When you do, I recommend using 3 watt bulbs (Narva 47504). The 5 watt bulbs had melted the plastic around the area of the gear selector where they clip in so I had to remove the quadrant and repair it. (Which means removing the gear knob, etc.)

I can't remember any problems prising the finisher away. Prise from the front. The rear edge goes under a lip.


Ron

[ladas]

Yep, just use your fingers, it should lift off without too much resistence.

[sam_d]

Sam, is that a Discovery 1 or 2?

I replaced them last week in my Disco 1 (there are two, one each side). When you do, I recommend using 3 watt bulbs (Narva 47504). The 5 watt bulbs had melted the plastic around the area of the gear selector where they clip in so I had to remove the quadrant and repair it. (Which means removing the gear knob, etc.)

I can't remember any problems prising the finisher away.

Ron

It's a Disco 1. Both bulbs need replacing cos I do get a bit stuck at the moment: I'm not familiar with automatics - I've only ever driven manual so I keep having to look at where the gear lever is when reversing etc and that is difficult when I do that at night. :)

[George130]

If it is like mine then it has 2 catch bits one at the front and one at the rear. Like the others have advised just gently pull it off.

[sam_d]

If it is like mine then it has 2 catch bits one at the front and one at the rear. Like the others have advised just gently pull it off.

I'll give it a try in a bit.

I'm just wary cos last time I had my own car and I had to "carefully prise" something off it was easier said that done.

[George130]

I'll give it a try in a bit.

I'm just wary cos last time I had my own car and I had to "carefully prise" something off it was easier said that done.
Mine has had a crack from when I got it and it still holds and stays put.

[p38arover]

I keep having to look at where the gear lever is when reversing etc and that is difficult when I do that at night. :)

You'll become used to it.

My wife and I call it a PRINDLE (PRNDL - Park, Neutral, Reverse, Drive, Low) :) as that describes the positions of the gearshift.

Modern cars have PRND2L or more - but we learned on the old stuff. :(

If you get the PRND bit in your mind, you can pull the lever back the right number of notches without thinking about it.

Ron

[4bee]

Aide memoires can be very handy.

'First Parade Service' in my Unit & possibly elsewhere, was POWGLIT


Petrol
Oil
Water
Glass
Lights
Indicators/Instruments
Tyres

[p38arover]

Aide memoires can be very handy.

I remember my instructor at DCA when I was a trainee radio technician telling us that he'd tell us the resistor colour code once only (shades of 'Allo, 'Allo). It's very non-PC but I still remember it:

Black Bastard Raped Our Young Girl, Bloody Virginity Gone West.

Black 0, Brown 1, Red 2, Orange 3, Yellow 4, Green 5, Blue 6, Violet 7, Grey 8, White 9

Ron

[JohnE]

Somehing similiar in my weapons instructors course, this is definately not PC,
to remember the key points , with elementary observation, for high risk incidents
5 ****s and a mole,
shape, shadow, surface,silhouette,spacing and movement.

then there was the one from many a year ago, when i was in the cadets.
stripping a bren gun
**** down the barrel and butt the bloody bipod.

piston, barrel, butt, body bipod.

funny what we still remember

john

[JohnE]

oops forgot about the swear-o-meter.

the first blipped one rythmes with slits a u instead of the i

the second is a short version of piston, without the ton

john

[4bee]

funny what we still remember

Ain't it though.;)

My first SMLE .303 Rifle number was 96627 Manuf. 1917. No, I wasn't the first user either.:D

And who can ever forget one's Regimental #?;)

Some things are so ingrained.

[sam_d]

Okay, I got this far:

http://www.samdaykin.co.uk/car/console.jpg

But the large walnut part of the console seems to be stuck fast. Any ideas on how to get this part off?

I thought I might be able to cut around the back of the bulb connector (enough to get the bulb out but not so much it can't be hidden by the finisher) and pull the fitting out but would that be enough room to do so?


Sam, is that a Discovery 1 or 2?

I replaced them last week in my Disco 1 (there are two, one each side). When you do, I recommend using 3 watt bulbs (Narva 47504). The 5 watt bulbs had melted the plastic around the area of the gear selector where they clip in so I had to remove the quadrant and repair it. (Which means removing the gear knob, etc.)

I can't remember any problems prising the finisher away.

Ron

[p38arover]

You should be able to pull the bulb holder out from there. It just clips in.

The walnut piece is probably screwed on from under the console.

If you want me to I could take a picture of the bulb holder tomorrow arvo and post it here.

Ron

[Quiggers]

I thought there was a screw or two retaining this plate...my distant memory recalls a small phillips type cone head maybe half and inch long, somewhere...have a close look

GQ

[sam_d]

You should be able to pull the bulb holder out from there. It just clips in.

The walnut piece is probably screwed on from under the console.

If you want me to I could take a picture of the bulb holder tomorrow arvo and post it here.

Ron


If you could that would be most helpful.

The thing I am stuch with is that the back of the connector on the drivers side is right up against the walnut bit and can't be pulled out as it is.

[p38arover]

Now you can see how the clips work and how easy it should be to remove. ;)

Im had a look at the console and there are 4 holes around the gearshift hole in mine (and probably yours) and I suspect this is where the veneer panel is screwed on from underneath.


http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8389/dscn5382vh9.jpg

[sschmez]

thanx to JoJo
in another thread




The Haynes' Manual Translation...
what the phrases in a Haynes manual really mean... I found this one on another site, feels too important to keep it away from you. Enjoy!

Haynes: Rotate anti-clockwise
Translation: Clamp with mole grips then beat repeatedly with hammer anti-clockwise

Haynes: This is a snug fit
Translation: Clamp with mole-grips then beat repeatedly with hammer

Haynes: This is a tight fit
Translation: Clamp with mole-grips then beat repeatedly with a hammer

Haynes: As described in Chapter 7
Translation: That'll teach you not to read through before you start

Haynes: Pry
Translation: Hammer a screwdriver into

Haynes: Undo
Translation: Go buy a tin of WD40 (giant economy size)

Haynes: Retain tiny spring
Translation: PINGGGG - "Where the hell did that go?"

Haynes: Press and rotate to remove bulb
Translation: OK - that's the glass bit off, now fetch some good pliers to dig
out the bayonet part (and maybe a plaster or two)

Haynes: Lightly
Translation: Start off lightly and build up till the veins on your forehead are throbbing then clamp with mole-grips then beat repeatedly with hammer

Haynes: Weekly checks
Translation: If it isn't broken don't fix it

Haynes: Routine maintenance
Translation: If it isn't broken, it's about to be We warned

Haynes: One spanner rating
Translation: An infant could do this so how did you manage to **** it up?

Haynes: Two-spanner rating
Translation: Now you may think that you can do this because two is a low, teensy weensy number but you also thought the wiring diagram was a map of the Tokyo underground (in fact that would have been more use to you)

Haynes: Three-spanner rating
Translation: Make sure you won't need your car for a couple of days

Haynes: Four-spanner rating
Translation: You're not seriously considering this are you?

Haynes: Five-spanner rating
Translation: OK - but don't ever carry your loved ones in it again

Haynes: If not, you can fabricate your own special tool like this
Translation: Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Haynes: Compress
Translation: Squeeze with all your might, jump up and down on it, throw it at the garage wall, then find some mole-grips and a hammer

Haynes: Inspect
Translation: Squint at really hard and pretend you know what you are looking at, then declare in a loud knowing voice to your wife "Yep, as I thought it's going to need a new one"

Haynes: Carefully
Translation: You are about to suffer deep abrasions

Haynes: Retaining nuts
Translation: Yes that's it, that big spherical blobs of rust

Haynes: Get an assistant
Translation: Prepare to humiliate yourself in front of someone you know

Haynes: Turning the engine will be easier with the spark plugs removed
Translation: However, starting the engine afterwards will be much harder Once that sinking pit of your stomach feeling has subsided, you can start to feel deeply ashamed as you gingerly refit the spark plugs

Haynes: Refitting is the reverse sequence to removal
Translation: Yeah, right But you swear in different places

Haynes: Prise away plastic locating pegs
Translation: Snap off

Haynes: Using a suitable drift
Translation: Clamp with mole-grips then beat repeatedly with hammer

Haynes: Everyday toolkit
Translation: RAC Card & Mobile Phone

Haynes: Apply moderate heat
Translation: Unless you have a blast furnace, don't bother Alternatively, clamp with mole-grips then beat repeatedly with hammer

Haynes: Index
Translation: List of all the things in the book, bar what you need to do


usually works this way for me

:wasntme: ;)

[p38arover]

When I refitted the surround today, I realised the manual doesn't tell you to prise from the front. The rear edge goes under a lip.

Ron

[sam_d]

It is my previous experience with Haynes Manuals that has made me very wary of doing anything too technical at the moment :)

And having had a company car for the last 5 years or so which only ever took a phone call to get fixed I am wanting to break myself in gently.

Not replaced the bulb yet - I've been quite distracted this week.

[byron]

You'll become used to it.

My wife and I call it a PRINDLE (PRNDL - Park, Neutral, Reverse, Drive, Low) :) as that describes the positions of the gearshift.




PRNDL = "Prindle" = P is for Park for when you Park the car, Reverse is a Technical term for backing -up, same with Neutral, tech talk for nothing happens!, Drive is for when you want to Drive the car and L is for......um....don't worry, you'll never use it!:p