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RRV80
17th April 2007, 07:49 PM
contemplating upgrading th driveline on my late classi and was thinking along the lines of LSD in the front and a locker in the back.
What everyones opinions, should i just get LSD front and rear, lsd front, locker rear or get a rear locker and buy a front one later?
D110V8D
17th April 2007, 08:00 PM
How much money do you want to spend?:angel: :D :D
Detroits are good and cheap compared to other, manually operated lockers. A detroit rear with a tru trac (LSD) up front is a good combo.;)
Then you go the whole hog and fit Maxi Drives front and rear. $$$$$$$'s though if you cant fit them yourself.:(
Or ARB's................or Jac Mac (if you can be bothered dealing with Jeff.)
rovercare
17th April 2007, 08:19 PM
Self locker front (arb, maxi or jac) self locker rear or detroit;)
86mud
18th April 2007, 08:35 AM
Self lockers are hard on axles...and can engage and disengage without warning...
The maxi axle/locker combination is the way to go if you have don't mind robbing a bank
Cheers
Andrew
Bigbjorn
18th April 2007, 08:56 AM
Have had Detroit lockers in two very high powered cars with no problems other than the clanking noise in low speed turns. Also had three way Detroits in a White Road Boss with Rockwell SSHD 44000lb. tandem drive axles, that is, one in each axle and one in the power divider (centre diff). Again no problems, with amazing improvement when pulling doubles and triples in the loose or slippery stuff. Would like to try a vehicle with a Gleasman Torsen for comparison.
BigJon
18th April 2007, 09:05 AM
You shouldn't fit a self locking diff (or unlocker as they actually operate) in the front axle of a constant 4wd.
I have a Torsen lsd in the rear of my 88 Rangie, seems to work pretty well but I am chasing a large clunk when changing drive direction. One day I might shift it to the front and fit an air locker to the rear.
spudboy
18th April 2007, 09:14 AM
I've got front and rear ARB air lockers in my D1.
I'd say go a locker/LSD in the back and wait to see what you think of it. Having the rear locked makes a big difference. I rarely use the front locker (no steering when its engaged) so it was a bit of a waste of funds in some regards. It has 'saved' me once or twice, but prob not worth the $$ spent.
cartm58
18th April 2007, 01:37 PM
Read about Torsens when l got my first 4wd in 1984 a Nissan 3.3 litre TD, but only palce to fit them in whole of Australia was place in Qld and l was living in Vic at the time so they never got fitted
A guy called Roberts develoved the Air Locker for his Toyota and then sold the system to ARB and l fitted one to my 1990 Nissan 3 litre petrol in the rear diff cost then was $1500. Used it once on some forestry tracks in Dargo.
Personally l would fit better tryes on your truck first, wait 12 months to see how many times you actually go out and how often you get hung up and need help recovering yourself from a situation that someone who is with you with lockers walks through.
Your other choice is hunt around for a tirfor winch or like second on ebay etc or fit yourself with a winch on the front the steering pump powered ones are good alternative to the electric ones as you dont have to worry about fitting second battery etc in the front of vehicle.
Again from a cost point of view a second tirfor better value for the amount of times you actually use it compared to winch on the front of the vehicle.
Lastly best recovery tool you can possible have is another 4wd on thet rip with you.
easo
18th April 2007, 02:32 PM
I've got air lockers front and rear in sally anne. I like them because you can ID your obstical and lock them in get over it and un lock, The ARB wireing is good too as you need to have the rear locked first before the front will lock.
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